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#871 OFFLINE   dean36014

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:19 PM

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If you've got one of these types of cigar lighters, then it's probably the issue.  There's an inner and outer casing with a moulded-in screw thread so as you tighten it up it both earths and clamps itself to the trim panel. When they come unscrewed, they don't earth reliably and then start causing weird issues.  Mine started with occasional loss of power at the lighter and developed into disco party lights when trying to indicate or brake and eventually loss of electricity when the car was left to its own devices.

 

I don't know how better to describe it.

Wonder if this is the case of the mystery drain on my daily BX. It seems to have a lighter like this which is temperamental to use. I might rip it out and replace it and see if this cures it. i=It needs a new one anyway.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:46 PM

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Wow, that looks black magic alright.
Can you bring it over real quick, please?
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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:48 PM

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If you've got one of these types of cigar lighters, then it's probably the issue.  There's an inner and outer casing with a moulded-in screw thread so as you tighten it up it both earths and clamps itself to the trim panel. When they come unscrewed, they don't earth reliably and then start causing weird issues.  Mine started with occasional loss of power at the lighter and developed into disco party lights when trying to indicate or brake and eventually loss of electricity when the car was left to its own devices.
 
I don't know how better to describe it.


That'll be the last thing I check, though, since it's a dashboard out job including disconnecting the Phamous Phlap cable.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:36 PM

Same.  But I'm pretty good at removing and refitting Princess dashboards now.  I reckon I could compete at an Olympic level in fact.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 05:48 PM

I replaced the battery. It's not a Parisian one.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:32 PM

See.

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:34 AM

Turns out it was the battery and nowt else. Five days in and there haven't been any more issues.

To the contrary, the volt meter is now occasionally in the green, something that has never happened before

and the fuel gauge suddenly works.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 05:18 PM

That is most vexing. All those symptoms suggesting something else. Perhaps the knackered battery confused the charging system? Anyway, glad it turned out to be a simple cause.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 05:27 PM

Volts don't start a car, raisins do. Or currents.

You can have a battery showing 13v, 14.4v, whatever, but if the capacity has all fallen out it won't crank. Try starting a car off 8 AA batteries and see where you get, cos that's also 12V.
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Posted 12 December 2017 - 07:28 PM

This is all beknownst to me. I do know the difference between voltage, current and power, believe it, or not.

 

But that gauge in the R16 dashboard, that was in the red since the car was picked up (see curlection section) is a V-O-L-T-M-E-T-E-R,

the reason for which only a few dead Frenchmen know. Note: I didn't put it there, they did! I would have put an ammeter there, like any

normal person.

However, after changing the battery, it went into the green for the first time since I have the car. This indicates two things:

 

- that the old battery was dying a slow death since June.

- that there is sod all wrong with the charging system.


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 04:10 AM

However, after changing the battery, it went into the green for the first time since I have the car. This indicates two things:

 

- that the old battery was dying a slow death since June.

- that there is sod all wrong with the charging system.

 

Or it has co-incidentally been over a bump and started working for a change.

Or has secretly been worked on in your absence by French electrical elves (that weren't on strike).



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 09:45 AM

A bump is something you experience in newfangled tosh.

There is no such thing as bumps in the parallel R16 universe, so it must have been not unionised French elves.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:33 AM

Renault kept up tradition and my GTA has a voltmeter also. I would have preferred an oil pressure gauge.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 03:11 AM

You can't beat an ammeter and a dynamo/weedy alternator. Like your own little landslide election swingometer. 


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 08:22 AM

Or it has co-incidentally been over a bump and started working for a change.

Or has secretly been worked on in your absence by French electrical elves (that weren't on strike).

A bump is something you experience in newfangled tosh.

There is no such thing as bumps in the parallel R16 universe, so it must have been not unionised French elves.

 

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:44 AM

Renault kept up tradition and my GTA has a voltmeter also. I would have preferred an oil pressure gauge.

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Nah, oil pressure gauges only cause anxiety.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:38 PM

The warning light sometimes doesn't come on though. I find worrying about that creates more tension than knowing a gauge might go to zero at any time.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 04:08 PM

You have obviously never watched a P6 V8 OPG in heavy traffic, including light come onnage.

I'm too old for that kinda shit.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 04:28 PM

Been there, done that. Oddly mine (well, the engine was from a P6B) never hit 0 in hot stationary traffic, even with the low idle from the automatic gears in Drive. Oil cooler helped.

Then again, if the gauge hit zero on the Renault it would likely launch a conrod into orbit, whereas gentle application of loud pedal in the P6 would cause the needle to come off zero and continue to operate happily.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 04:51 PM

Then again, if the gauge hit zero on the Renault it would likely launch a conrod into orbit, whereas gentle application of loud pedal in the P6 would cause

the needle to come off zero and the temp gauge going into the red.
 

 

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