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#541 ONLINE   Conrad D. Conelrad

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 10:37 PM

Either I'm getting old, or I'm out of practice. Or, which is most probable, both.

Just worked on the car all day and now am knackered and feel every bone and fiber in my body.

 

If it makes you feel any better I feel the same way after cycling to Tesco to buy a ridiculous pizza. 


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 11:35 PM

That somehow doesn't make me feel better one fucking bit.

What makes me feel better, however, is that a shitload of teensy wee niggly bits are sorted now.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:57 PM

Let's drive to Leeds...

 

OMG d00m!

 

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There was steam coming out of the phamous phlap.

Hence:

 

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And fuck:

 

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Consequently:

 

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This got us going to the next exit, where we found a Sainsbury's.

There we could fill the system with Sainsbury's cheapest mineral water and bleed the system.

No further hiccups were experienced on the subsequent trip back to the Junkbase.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:59 PM

Get you home thinking there! Brilliant.
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:12 PM

I always find whenever I buy an old car it takes a year to get it up to scratch. The good news is you've put a lot right already, the bad news is it's French so may explode tomorrow. The brake master cylinder may never have been replaced/overhauled, in one car I had the brake pedal would go slowly to the floor when stationary with the footbrake applied. Upon investigation the master cylinder rubber seals had turned into a sort of grey gum. A new one cured it instantly.


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Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:23 PM

Similarly to t' squire above. It's about two years shakedown for me until I've fixed or replaced the original problem niggles. Then just ongoing "fun".
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#547 ONLINE   Conrad D. Conelrad

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:24 PM

Similarly to t' squire above. It's about two years shakedown for me until I've fixed or replaced the original problem niggles. Then just sell it.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:40 PM

You guys obviously never persevered for six years with a possessed Rover.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:56 PM

Ftfy

Defeatist!

These are just "getting to know you " problems with the Renault. A bit of use will always chuck up issues that need sorting.


Edit. Obviously if the car doesn't want to go to Leeds, don't take it to Leeds :-)
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:22 PM

On a more positive note, the entire area underneath the scuttle is pristine!


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 09:49 PM

Brilliant!


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 01:18 AM

Right.

 

As you can imagine, that busted y-piece with integrated bleed tube hasn't been available since the 1968 Paris student revolt.

I hence - advised by Mr Conelrad to do so - ordered 16 quid worth of bits from Car Builder Solutions, a company catering to those daft imbeciles failing at building kit cars.

Holding a doctorate in engineering (I kid you not) it should be a simple thing for me to rig up something Renault had in mind initially, but didn't build in the end.

I mean, since when can't a shade tree mechanic outsmart an armada of very well paid designers?

 

WCPGW?

 

I will use this opportunity to also bring the cooling system up to scratch, something I actually wanted to do before Winter, honestly, but most probably would have never

done without a genuine reason for sale. You should see the atrocious brown silt that's cooling* the engine ever since we took off from Loxstedt.

 

So stay tuned to watch a big man going under with his little R16.

 

Skizzer was right. R16 owners live in a parallel universe.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:58 AM

On a more positive note, the entire area underneath the scuttle is pristine!

Steam cleaned?

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 10:17 AM

There isn't too much dirt in the first place. I've now cleaned it out to new car spec.

The whole heater/blower thing is quite a clever affair, I shall take some pics and show you.

It clearly demonstrates that it doesn't have to be the very first thing put into an empty

body and then buried with dashboards and interior trim.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:15 PM

R16 heater and ventilation system explained.

 

The heater matrix is as wide as the air outlet on top of the dashboard:

 

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The hot water enters here:

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And exits here:

 

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The thin pipe on top passing the fan is for bleeding the system and ends in the engine bay for easy access.

 

 

This is where the y-piece was split:

 

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The piece removed from the car:

 

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:29 PM

Fixing things started with a new grommet for the cable of the phamous phlap:

 

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The old one was deteriorated and allowed water ingress into the passenger footwell.

 

 

Then I rigged up new plumbing:

 

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I cleaned the expansion reservoir, which was smack full of brown sludge:

 

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I then flushed the entire cooling system as good as I could. This is what the water looked like when I deemed it

sufficiently clean:

 

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I then strategically placed four dishwasher tablets in the cooling system and put everything back together.

Not wanting to waste any expensive antifritz, I filled the system with water only and meticulously followed the

bleeding procedure outlined in the manual.

 

Note: R16s must be bled when the moon is between half and three quarters after the August Bank Holiday Weekend,

         when three witches meet at the crossroads and the neighbour's black cat just walked through your garden.

 

Anyway, I let it run until the fan came on, went off again, came on again, went off again. So two full cycles.

Nothing untoward was observed, so I'll keep the dishwashertabletted water in until the weekend, then drop it and

refill with proper stuff.

 

That should be it.

 

Well, it must be, because I'm not going to take off the scuttle again.

To reconnect the cable for the phamous phlap is such a dirty bitch, it almost drove me up the wall.

 

Anyway, this is what the water looked like after having it running for ca half an hour:

 

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Not half bad, is it?


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:00 PM

Nice! 

 

That old coolant was seriously rank. Lumpy and brown. 


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:12 PM

It was only that bad in the reservoir. What was in the cooling system itself wasn't that bad,

but there wasn't any antifreeze or corrosion inhibitor in it. It looked like stale water.

 

At least I figured out the bleeding bleeding procedure. You need two c clamps for step one,

with which you have to squeeze the heater return pipe and the carbonrater heating pipe shut.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:17 PM

phamous phlap


I googled this to try and find out what it was phamous for.

How do I clear the browser cache?

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CHRIS1980, on 08 Jan 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:snapback.png

Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:19 PM

carbonrater


4/10, must try harder.

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CHRIS1980, on 08 Jan 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:snapback.png

Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:25 PM

Speaking of the carburetter, it needs adjustment now.

Obviously the cooling system hasn't been working right for a long time and the carb is heated.

Once the car is warm now, tickover is way too lumpy and low revving.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 12:30 AM

I googled this to try and find out what it was phamous for.

How do I clear the browser cache?

Ben

 

Its phamous phor phlapping

 

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 12:57 PM

Okay, all together, carb adjusted, time for a test drive.

If you don't hear anymore from me, it went wrong.


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1hr23 minute test drive so far...
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 02:22 PM

It's going okay.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 03:03 PM

I always find whenever I buy an old car it takes a year to get it up to scratch. The good news is you've put a lot right already, the bad news is it's French so may explode tomorrow.

 

There is much truth here.  Especially the last bit.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 05:31 PM

1hr23 minute test drive so far...

 

It was a lot longer than that.

 

The car is driving beautifully now. The only untoward thing was that the front right indicator did a Peugeot.

Mr Conelrad papped me when I fixed it at the roadside.

 

Interestingly the bulbs only work when you slacken them a bit. So French.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:22 PM

I remember my Dads total POS Renner 4 had a similar glass bottle on the inner wing,

 

I say "had" because one day driving along there was a loud bang,

followed by a billowing cloud of steam.

 

The fucking thing exploded!!

 

Lifting it's bent and battered bonnet revealed an engine in a cloud of steam,

covered with shit brown sludge that passed for coolant and thousands of shards of broken glass.

 

It got us the few short miles home,

Where Dad cobbled a plastic coolant bottle from a scrap fiat 128 onto it.

It was there till the day the Renner died.

(along with most of the sludge and broken glass)


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 08:37 PM

My upbringing couldn't have been in starker contrast. That there was an R4 is the only overlap.

 

My mother was in the fashion trade and bought a new R4 off the show room at the Camps Elysees every year

once the Paris fashion show was over, which coincided with the new models just having been delivered.

She would either buy a special model, or one in a striking colour combination if no suitable special was available.

 

Our local Renault dealer was a bit miffed about this, despite my father used to buy his R16s there,

although only in three year intervals. You know how it goes among business people in a community.

 

So when she needed some smaller vans for her business - she only had an H Van at the time, which also pissed

off said dealer - she bought two R4F4s off him. Those were around for quite some time, at least ten years,

but like the H Van constantly updated with varying magnetic signwriting and sticky stuff because fashion business.

They were always kept in mint condition, thus glass bottle explosure was not experienticated.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:24 PM

My mother is an accomplished self taught seamstress,

designing and making clothes from a very early age,

 

She wanted to pursue this talent into a career by going to college and training as such.

 

Sadly in rural Ireland in the early 1960's such a thing was unheard of,

mainly through lack of money,but also the culture that Women get married have babies and stay at home.

 

So she trained as a secretary and that's how she spent her working life.

 

Something she still regrets to this day.

 

Anyway,lets get back to old Renaults 8)






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