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#1201 ONLINE   Eddie Honda

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:12 AM

I'm still not getting the attack from the top approach. Is the bottom hermetically sealed?

It's a cock of a job with a RHD Volvo. LHD is a piece of piss.

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 07:08 AM

Does your's have the twin choke carby?

 

I used the 2CV clamp Chaseracer suggested, but any 48 mm so called French Clamp will do.

Except the expensive one from Der Franzose, which is too small.

 

Franzose parts are overpriced, of shit quality and never fit, you should have learned that by now...


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:07 AM

I'm still not getting the attack from the top approach. Is the bottom hermetically sealed?

 

It's just a lot more convenient from above. On R16s the starter is half way up the engine block.

It's a piece of piss on an LHD.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:27 AM

Yes I was very slowly reading the "official way" last night for RHD. Also had a little read about that Solex 32 SEIEA hunk o' junk.

The French - great sense of humour when it comes to designing things for the English.
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#1205 ONLINE   Junkman

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:36 AM

I would have been glad if mine were a 32 SEIEA. But it was an EIE and I had another one for parts.

It looks like Conrad tipped the only two examples in existence.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:37 AM

I would have been glad if mine were a 32 SEIEA. But it was an EIE and I had another one for parts.

It looks like Conrad tipped the only two examples in existence.

 

 

EIE OH NO


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:40 AM

Franzose parts are overpriced, of shit quality and never fit, you should have learned that by now...

 

Too bad that for many thing he's the only game in town.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:54 PM

Dunno about Renault, but for Peugeot part's he certainly is not. You can find any part he sells cheaper, NOS or of good qualitiy elsewhere and it will fit.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 01:33 PM

Finding parts for an R16 is difficult at the best of times. R16 ownership really is a parallel universe, like Skizzer once said so aptly.

Being a clean sheet design built in a brand new factory built just for that, none of the Renault parts bin bits apply. Add to this all the stuff they changed for the '68->, they literally redesigned the car, and you can imagine that when having a ->'68, you have to be grateful for anything you can get your hands on. Parts for other Renaults of the era are much easier to source.

 

Der Franzose is merely a branch of the French company CiPeRe anyway. There is the R16 Shop in Holland, which in many cases is even more expensive than Der Franzose. To my knowledge no other companies catering for them exist, so success is directly related to your truffle piggishness to find what you need and that means hoping sellers on Leboncoin will respond, which they don't.

 

Simply put, being a complete lunatic is absolutely essential for running an R16 as a daily, as many R16 owners not doing that will attest.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:44 PM

Time for a Tagora!


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 05:05 PM

It's been time for a Tagora since 1980.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 07:01 PM

RHD starter access...IMG_20181012_163021.jpg

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:23 PM

I think the answer is to cut off the entire front right quarter of the car with an angle grinder then weld it back on again after you’ve sorted the starter.

See, parallel universe.
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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:25 PM

Does your's have the twin choke carby?

 

I used the 2CV clamp Chaseracer suggested, but any 48 mm so called French Clamp will do.

Except the expensive one from Der Franzose, which is too small.

 

Have fun finding a manifold gasket...

 

2CV clamps are 47mm or 49mm...


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:46 PM

RHD starter access...attachicon.gifIMG_20181012_163021.jpg

 

That fucking sucks. And not just a little bit.

 

 

2CV clamps are 47mm or 49mm...

 

Yeah, 47mm. Anyway, the "47mm" one from Der Franzose is too small.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:56 PM

Whot you need is these.

 

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PM me if you want them.

 

 


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:08 PM

Whilst flicking through the Renna manual, I did chortle at the dizzy clamp special tool...

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:49 PM

That tool is roughly as necessary as a goitre.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 06:34 AM

The Solex carbs were crap when these cars were current so fitting a Webber was always the first thing most people changed on them. When I had Renault 18's back in the late 80's I was always on the look out for Webber equipped cars in the breakers to swap. The only issue I had was finding air filter pipework as the Webbers would freeze up if you didn't run an air filter. It would be a pain on the motorway trying to make decent progress when the carb would ice up so you had to let it thaw out then set off again. The only thing worse than a Solex carb is a bloody Pierburg, we were swapping them for Webbers on Astra's at 2 years old due to wear.

Same as us ford fondlers back in the day binning VV carbs and fitting weber versions so our cars would work then.
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Posted 14 October 2018 - 12:55 PM

Whilst flicking through the Renna manual, I did chortle at the dizzy clamp special tool...
attachicon.gifIMG_20181013_000732_970.jpg


Designed specifically to short out older spark plug wires to ground?
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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:15 PM

Franzose parts are overpriced, of shit quality and never fit, you should have learned that by now...

 

ECAS.

 

Always ECAS.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 06:57 PM

Today we got it running pretty properly. Not totally perfectly, but the best I can do with my abilities.

Turns out the ignition was miles out as well.

 

So we took it on a test drive. It ran very well until it didn't. Upon arrival at home it ran like shit.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 07:38 PM

Today we got it running pretty properly. Not totally perfectly, but the best I can do with my abilities.

Turns out the ignition was miles out as well.

 

So we took it on a test drive. It ran very well until it didn't. Upon arrival at home it ran like shit.

Distributor come loose?


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 08:50 PM

Do you think I'm a complete suitcase?


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 08:56 PM

I blame those yellow headlamp bulbs... :)
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Posted 14 October 2018 - 08:58 PM

ECAS.
 
Always ECAS.


Qu’est ce que c’est, ECAS? Is that another old French car parts supplier?

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 09:21 PM

Accurate video of the timing being set:

 


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Posted 20 October 2018 - 06:29 PM

Okay, we have a serious problem now and I don't know any further.

 

I finally found the timing mark on the flywheel. When I adjust the ignition according to the mark, the engine runs absolutely shit.

Hence I adjusted it so that the engine runs okay, but the car just doesn't maintain a proper tickover. It's hunting left right and centre

and every time I get it to tick over acceptably, after the next flick of the throttle it's all over the place again.

I got it running as good as I can, took it out on a road test and it drove terribly.


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Posted 20 October 2018 - 06:32 PM

If you time it to the mark will it run properly by adjusting the carb?

 

 

 

Or try putting a bagette & soft cheese in the glove box.


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Posted 20 October 2018 - 07:04 PM

I think you might have to get your hands dirty and check the timing marks on the crankshaft and camshaft sprockets.


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