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Bureaucratic Bureaucracy Driving Me Up the Wall! OMG R16 Now Congesting British Roads Because I No Longer Give A Shit!


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#481 OFFLINE   Junkman

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:18 PM

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:29 PM

Achieving the V5C is marvellous news. A Paris car eh - I'd have thought there would be more dents!

 

It interesting to read of the effect of the staggered suspension - the R16 certainly rides extremely well. Jaguar may have been trying something similar when the designed the rear suspension of the XJ40. The wheel is capable of moving backwards as well as up and down. Jaguar said this was to increase compliance on large potholes. Have you sold your XJ40 now, or do you still have it?


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:33 PM

 

 

I suspect they grip well if you have the courage.


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#484 OFFLINE   Junkman

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:36 PM

XJ40 made way for the Green Lean Machine.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:47 PM

Every time there's talk of an R16s suspension this comes to mind :)

 

Ah, the days when the French used to prioritise wheel travel and momentum conservation above all else. Between 306 and 307 Peugeot seemed to forget all they knew about suspension engineering, whilst Renault seems to have decided that body roll is an evil that must be vanquished at whatever cost to ride quality. Citroen, with only Peugeot hardware to work with, seem to have just given up. Take a modern Renault across that field and you'd lose a few fillings and (probably) your sanity, the R16 just glides over it nonchalantly.

 

The irony is that on the roads round me you could take any ludicrously underpowered old French shite and easily keep up with modern stuff, with its suspension seemingly tuned primarily for lap times. In the BX it was a regular and tedious occurrence to become stuck behind some Audi or BMW as it reached the limits of its wheel travel, its driver forced to slow down and wrestle it into compliance as it pitched and bounced virtually uncontrollably. I'd imagine they'd be well pissed off if this R16 appeared in their rear view mirror and refused to go away despite their best efforts.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 02:23 PM

It "steps" over ruts in the road, thus the shock usually transmitted upwards into the car's structure is literally split in halves.
This provides an unparalleled ride comfort on roads with ruts, like for example the M6 through Birmingham.
I also already noticed that it practically nixes speed bumps.
 
Once the mills of bureaucracy have finsihed grinding, I urge you to jump in and try it out.


Thanks for explaining, JM.

Is the difference in turn-in noticeable?

I'd love to have a go in one!

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Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

Oh no!

 

I removed the old car smell.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:41 PM

Are the red seats in yet? They'll add some musty goodness. 


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:42 PM

Thanks for explaining, JM.

Is the difference in turn-in noticeable?

I'd love to have a go in one!

Ben

 

The turn-in is equally shitty left or right.

R16s are classic understeerers and I can't drive FWD to save my life anyway.


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1971 Rover 3500 Series 2...........................................almost not fucked
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

Are the red seats in yet? They'll add some musty goodness. 

 

At the moment only the rear seat is in. It's mustyness is insufficient.


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1971 Rover 3500 Series 2...........................................almost not fucked
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:07 PM

Showed the reg pics to the French.

 

 

Registered 1967 in Paris, the one that your R 16 received when it was put into circulation ...

 

It's not an R16. It's an R16 first registered in Paris!

And I can prove it!

How full of fucking win is that?


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1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:10 PM

You need to get a packet of Gitanes ciggies to smoke when driving this


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:34 PM

You show me where I can get them in Nanny Island and I buy the Gitanes.


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1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 12:54 AM

Junkman nipping down to the shops for a pint of milk.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:50 AM

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:52 AM

Yes, I ordered pressed silver on black ones.


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1971 Rover 3500 Series 2...........................................almost not fucked
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

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1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:45 AM

 

 

 

 

 

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1971 Rover 3500 Series 2...........................................almost not fucked
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

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1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 02:23 AM

You're going to have fun reinstating that old car smell because first you've got to get rid of the new paint smell.  The latter can be assisted by leaving all the doors open on a warm day for a long time.  Good luck with that one.  The former can be achieved by leaving all the doors and windows closed and parking it in strong sunshine for several hours.  Good luck with that one too.

 

I've had great success reviving the proper smell of my various cars by parking them in full sunlight on those rare two or three days we get it.  Old sheets/curtains that have been stored in a shed seem to help pull out new solvent/paint smells and inject old mustiness, old books unfortunately seem not to.

 

Smells; the one thing restorers always forget to put back.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:42 AM

Why don't they sell air fresheners in old car smell flavour?
Or aerosol tins?
 
 

Character; the one thing restorers always forget to put back.


EFA.


Anyway, the potential smell restorers are in place now.

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1967 Renault 16 TL............................................now with floor and MoT

1971 Rover 3500 Series 2...........................................almost not fucked
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

1974 Ford LTD................................................The Green Lean Machine
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:59 AM

A ginger interior!
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:01 PM

I keep a load of old BMC underfelts.   They smell like an old Gannex raincoat a tramp pissed on in a Routemaster in 1974.  While smoking a Capstan. 

 

I insert them under whatever cheap and nasty carpet has been inflicted on a "restored" car.    Sometimes you need to simulate years of leakiness by leaving a window open in the rain but eventually it gets there.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:11 PM

I CAN HAZ INSHURE!

 

Now waiting for the postman to scrape by the Green Lean Machine to drop those ruddy PL8S off.


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1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate.................now with aircon and brakes


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 05:37 PM

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:05 PM

How did the insurance price compare to the Granada?



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 12:10 AM

XJ40 made way for the Green Lean Machine.

 

 

I thought it probably had done.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:06 AM

How did the insurance price compare to the Granada?

 

54 OMGBHP are a lot more expensive to insure than 150.


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1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:24 AM

Makes sense. 

 

I thought it probably had done.

 

I walked away content it'd gone to a good home.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:46 AM

I honestly don't know what the fuck is wrong with this World.

 

After finally having received my V5C, Friday 11/08 I ordered a set of proper numberplates with 48h delivery.

As of today, the plates have not shown up, because Hermes.

After three attempts, the seller finally saw it fit to pass me the tracking number. Nothing else, mind.

The status - when entered on the Hermes website - is delayed, investigating.

 

You know what? I had enough of this computer shit.

I sent the seller a nasty email even for my demanding standards and opened a case with eBay.

In the meantime, I'm happliy hooning around with a set of plates courtesy of Conelrad, printed on paper and shrink wrapped.

Should any of her Majesty's myrmidons have an issue with that, I'm afraid he chose the wrong place and moment.

Because I'm well and truly fed up with that stupid bollox.


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Posted Yesterday, 10:00 AM

I just vinyl cut mine and stick them on top of an old plate
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Posted Yesterday, 10:24 AM

Should any of her Majesty's myrmidons have an issue with that


They won't, because way before nineteen- canteen.
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