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#61 OFFLINE   Junkman

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:15 AM

Did you know that the K70 shared it's doors with the RO80?


Did you know that it actually did not?
However, the VW K70 is an NSU development.
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:25 AM

Quite. Well done to the K70 guessers!


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:44 AM

Did you know that it actually did not?
However, the VW K70 is an NSU development.

 

 

Of course I knew!


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:52 AM

Front. The previous U11 was RWD [EDIT - not it wasn't! Previous to that was RWD]. Just to further confuse matters, this is not really a Bluebird at all, but an evolution of the Stanza platform. Nissan liked to keep people guessing in the 1980s! The U12 Bluebird, sold in Japan and other markets, is really not closely related to the European Bluebird at all. I think Bickle has/had a Pintara, which is a Japanese Bluebird sold in Australia. Keeping up at the back?

Anyway, the Mud and Snow tyres (RADAR!) will be appreciated. I might get them fitted properly though...
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:52 AM

I know, but I've always had more of a soft spot for the Blueys than the Sunnys, probably because my dad had a Bluebird when I was a kid.
 
LX does have PAS. Only the LS (and presumably the 'Premium' povo spec) did without. I know that because my dad had an LS, and always wished his company had stumped up a little more for the LX. Certainly was heavy by all accounts! Will be odd going to the 1.6 given I had a 2.0 SLX previously. I was a twat to sell that car.


I can also confirm that having also owned the SLX before you that i was most definitely a twat to sell it. Oh the blue veloury goodness and the dainty lights on bell chime!

No pantograph wipering for you on you new T72 though!

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:53 AM

I know, but I've always had more of a soft spot for the Blueys than the Sunnys, probably because my dad had a Bluebird when I was a kid.

LX does have PAS. Only the LS (and presumably the 'Premium' povo spec) did without. I know that because my dad had an LS, and always wished his company had stumped up a little more for the LX. Certainly was heavy by all accounts! Will be odd going to the 1.6 given I had a 2.0 SLX previously. I was a twat to sell that car.

I can also confirm that having also owned the SLX before you that i was most definitely a twat to sell it. Oh the blue veloury goodness and the dainty lights on bell chime!


No pantograph wipering for you on your new T72 though!

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 01:04 PM

I can also confirm that having also owned the SLX before you that i was most definitely a twat to sell it. Oh the blue veloury goodness and the dainty lights on bell chime!

No pantograph wipering for you on you new T72 though!

 

Indeed not. Doesn't appear to have ANY headlamp warning chime. Disappointing.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 01:18 PM

I've just been reading the MOT history for the car, I think we know who the last MOT tester was.

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:52 PM

My Dad had a massive horn for these and bought 3 brand new ones:

 

D reg 1.6 LX

F reg 1.6 " Puma " special edition which was body kitted to within an inch of it's life, can't find any pics sadly

H reg 2.0 GSXi auto 

 

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:23 PM

There was also a rare Turbo version of the T12 too.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:35 PM

Indeed not. Doesn't appear to have ANY headlamp warning chime. Disappointing.

There's a little grille down to the left of the steering column. Look through it with a flashlight, you should see a little metal plate of the chime mechanism if it's fitted. If it's there it might have jammed up. Occasionally a thump on the dash would free mine up.

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:09 PM

Very nice bluebird .i had a 86 sr turbo in two tone blue and silver it was good fun to drive but impossible to find suspension parts for as it had electronic suspension.

 

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 05:39 PM

That's awesome!

 

Anyway, my Bluey is now with video. A bonus is that tomorrow has become a free day, so hopefully I can crack on with engine dismantling. Not done it before on anything but a 2CV, but how hard can it be? Must order some bits...

 


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 10:44 AM

I've made a start! Cam cover off, HGF confirmed. Also, the thermostat was missing...

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Spark plugs needed a sodding breaker bar to get out! Yup, this car has endured a whole heap of neglect.

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I got the plugs out just to make sure none of the cylinders were full of water before I started the engine. That was so I could unblock the Daimler, and move the Bluey down nearer my tools. Even just reversing down the driveway, the front end is clonking like a bastard, so I suspect a knackered track rod end or balljoint. Quality motor this!


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 10:52 AM

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 12:33 PM

Looks like someone's been using Baileys instead of engine oil!

So far it's very reminiscent of my Volvo, clearly been looked after in the past but maybe fallen on hard times recently.
It'll be a really nice car once it's fixed though.
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Posted 21 May 2017 - 01:12 PM

Why the sodding hell did Nissan use a star drive on ONE of the head bolts? I'm now going to have to drive to town just to get some sodding sockets that I'll probably never use again. UGH.


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 01:47 PM

Are you nipping down today? I'm looking forward to seeing the head off!


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 02:40 PM

Are you nipping down today? I'm looking forward to seeing the head off!

 

Plan B. Will a 10mm 12-sided socket undo a star-headed bolt? The answer is yes!

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Going to be fun scraping this clean...

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Looks like two cylinders were leaking. The gasket appeared to be impeding quite a few waterways too. That doesn't strike me as ideal...

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I'm not really sure what to do next, having never done this before. Head clearly needs a very good clean up. I've got a couple of valves open, just because that's where they were when the engine stopped. Should I take the cams out? I'd better work out how to time everything back up again too. Interesting times ahead!


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 02:48 PM

Fine work! If it were me my next stage would be cleaning the face of the head enough to get a flat edge on it which you can use alongside your feeler gauges to detect if the head is warped.

 

Personally I'd strip the head to lap the valves in but you may prefer to just test them by poring petrol or thinner into the combustion chamber with the valves shut to check for obvious leaking.


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 03:48 PM

Hmm. That's all getting a bit more involved than I'd hoped. Was hoping it'd be as simple as a quick skim, new gasket and reassemble. 


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 04:15 PM

It can be that simple if you want but it makes sense to at least check the valves for obvious leakage


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 04:22 PM

Enjoyed the video. Will look forward to see how this progresses as I like these late model Bluebirds. Love the origami inspired styling.

 

My sister had one - same spec as this but in black (thus the matt black bumpers looked like they were colour coded). It's the kind of car that would have appealed to my dad as it was bland, family sized and well kitted out (going by my parents' car history).


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 04:32 PM

It can be that simple if you want but it makes sense to at least check the valves for obvious leakage

 

Ok. Guess I'll be discovering how much power is absorbed by driving a camshaft then! 


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 07:17 PM

Pinto head gaskets impede some water holes. Must be a reason? Well the ones we use do.

Some people punch a hole, some including me just fit it as is.



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Posted 21 May 2017 - 07:56 PM

I'll see what the new gasket looks like when it arrives.


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 09:07 PM

it is possible some holes may be machining holes from manufacturing process


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 01:23 AM

People overhype head gasket changing, it's not too bad, provided you do it by the book, with gasket sealant and the like.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:07 AM

. I've got a couple of valves open, just because that's where they were when the engine stopped. Should I take the cams out? 

 

Ideally you would have turned the engine to TDC before dismantling so you had timing reference points lined up.

Its not a big deal, but just be careful putting it back together that you dont get the timing 180 degrees out.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:50 AM

It'll definitely be a case of plugs out, turn by hand when it's back together. If I can find some way to turn it by hand. These new fangled cars don't seem to have a starting handle...

Gasket sealant is a thought. What should I use and where should it go? All gaskets?
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