Project Fiat 133. Completo/Finito

[JeeExEll]

126 and 127........

Yes, yes, I know that. Don't worry too much about it. The 133 is an interesting blend.

[purplebargeken]

When Mummy 126 and Daddy 127 love each other very much, they can have a child.............. hello 133.

[pompei]

With a bit of milkman 850 thrown in

[stillOrange]

Quick update.

 

Had to start it somewhere so decided to see if the engine is seized, it isn't. Good stuff.

 

Next, have a look at the plugs.

Impossible to get access to them with my tiny hands so alternator had to go off

Plenty of space now.

 

Plugs I should change anyway...

 

Alternator is from Fiat 127 but it will probably do just fine.

 

Wanted to see what state the radiator was. I can report that this car must have been a barn find as the amount of hey/straw found stuck to the radiator would feed family of hamsters for weeks.

Otherwise flushed it and it seems to hold water nicely, obviously it will be a different story when hot and under pressure but for now I'm happy.

 

I noticed I'm missing something here... would anyone have an idea what should be there?

[Junkman]

Looks like quite a few previous owners had too tiny hands for changing the spark plugs, but couldn't be arsed to take the alternator out.

 

I noticed I'm missing something here... would anyone have an idea what should be there?

The hamster trap?

[stillOrange]

Could be J-man...

 

I really need to get hold of some manual.

 

Shopping list:

Plugs,

Air filter,

Wheel nuts,

Battery,

Something to go with the master cylinder that I have no idea what it looks like, what it does and where it goes,

Something that is missing in the engine 'bay'

 

More to come

[Junkman]

It's some kind of relay or fuse box:

 

[Junkman]

It's the voltage regulator:

 

[stillOrange]

You're the best Junkman!

[Junkman]

And if I can't get it, they didn't make it.

 

http://www.chatarricas.com/productos/regulador-electronico-dinamo-nk-1500_143_23.htm

[Junkman]

BTW, that company sells a helluva lot for the 133:

 

http://www.chatarricas.com/modelos/repuestos-seat-133_7.html

[Split_Pin]

Top skillz there ^^

[Stanky]

BTW, that company sells a helluva lot for the 133:

 

http://www.chatarricas.com/modelos/repuestos-seat-133_7.html

 

Most importantly, STICKERS!

 

http://www.chatarricas.com/productos/adhesivos_139.html

[Junkman]

Of course I just HAD to find out what a Motocarro Hispanomotor is.

 

Well, it sure doesn't disappoint in the shite department:

 

[purplebargeken]

Holy FUCK! JM, you are a fucking genius.

 

No issues with spares there at all! Brilliant.

 

I mean, look at all of those stickers!

[purplebargeken]

Really pleased that the engine isn't seized!!!! Excellent news.

 

Yes, there was no way at all to access the plugs with the alternator in place. I did think that gap was for a regulator, but as the car had an alternator I didn't think that there would be a need for it.

[Fabergé Greggs]

 

Next, have a look at the plugs.

Impossible to get access to them with my tiny hands so alternator had to go off

Plenty of space now.

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Plugs I should change anyway...

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Holy shit, plug gap number 3 is something to behold

[eddyramrod]

I've just found among my books, a Fiat 850 Autobook.  I realise it's for the older model, but if it's any good to you, come and get it, it's yours.

[stillOrange]

Eddy, you're an angel sent from heaven.

 

As far as I know, 133 is basically 850 with new shell. Running gear is pretty much the same.

 

I could really do with one of them.

 

I'm away in Bristol all week but will try to arrange collection at the nearest opportunity.

[Uncle Jimmy]

Loads of inspiration to be found on Egyptian Fiat/Seat 133 fan page.

That there's an Egyptian Fiat/Seat Fan page is a cheery prospect in itself.

[M'coli]

It's the voltage regulator:

 

Some earlier Fiats had a separate regulator - if it's got a 127 alternator it might not need it: I know my 126 didn't need it when I swapped its alternator.

[Uncle Jimmy]

I have a Fiat voltage regulator if there's a need; brand new in box, c1970

[stillOrange]

All the stars on the sky tell me that it doesn't need the regulator as it's converted to alternator instead of the original dynamo.

 

Thank you Nibblet

[Junkman]

They never had a dynamo.

The question is whether it was converted to an alternator with built in regulator or not.

[stillOrange]

850s did I think have dynamo. I thought this would be same.

 

So how would I go about checking if I need the regulator with alternator or not?

[Junkman]

 

If there is something similar to this on the back of the alternator, you don't need a separate voltege regulator.

[Sigmund Fraud]

The part code on your alternator corresponds to late 127s and early Unos, which I don't think had a separate voltage regulator.

[stillOrange]

Slight progress today.

 

Put in new plugs. The ones that I got were suggested by the website that Junkman found. They are much bigger than the old ones.

 

Alternator back in. Ignition barrel supplied by very helpful shiter wired. Battery connected. Lights lit up, wipers moved, engine turns without a problem.

 

Didn't get to start it though. I've put some petrol into the tank but the pump doesn't seem to draw anything out. Will have to investigate further.

 

Maybe I could ask GGG to come round and fix the whole thing for me...

[Sigmund Fraud]

You'll probably stand a better chance of starting the thing if you give the carb float chamber a good clean and fill it with some fresh petrol. The pump may take a fair bit of time to draw fuel through, especially if the fuel lines are full of dried-out fuel sediment and rust.

[OwdChina]