JeeExEll Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 126 and 127........Yes, yes, I know that. Don't worry too much about it. The 133 is an interesting blend. eddyramrod and purplebargeken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 When Mummy 126 and Daddy 127 love each other very much, they can have a child.............. hello 133. JeeExEll and eddyramrod 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompei Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 With a bit of milkman 850 thrown in stillOrange, eddyramrod, JeeExEll and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillOrange Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Quick update. Had to start it somewhere so decided to see if the engine is seized, it isn't. Good stuff. Next, have a look at the plugs.Impossible to get access to them with my tiny hands so alternator had to go offPlenty of space now. Plugs I should change anyway... Alternator is from Fiat 127 but it will probably do just fine. Wanted to see what state the radiator was. I can report that this car must have been a barn find as the amount of hey/straw found stuck to the radiator would feed family of hamsters for weeks. Otherwise flushed it and it seems to hold water nicely, obviously it will be a different story when hot and under pressure but for now I'm happy. I noticed I'm missing something here... would anyone have an idea what should be there? Dirk Diggler, Jim Bell, Asimo and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Looks like quite a few previous owners had too tiny hands for changing the spark plugs, but couldn't be arsed to take the alternator out. Â I noticed I'm missing something here... would anyone have an idea what should be there? The hamster trap? purplebargeken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillOrange Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Could be J-man... I really need to get hold of some manual.  Shopping list:Plugs,Air filter,Wheel nuts,Battery,Something to go with the master cylinder that I have no idea what it looks like, what it does and where it goes,Something that is missing in the engine 'bay' More to come Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 It's some kind of relay or fuse box:Â stillOrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 It's the voltage regulator:Â Magnificent Rustbucket, RichardK, stillOrange and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillOrange Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 You're the best Junkman! eddyramrod, purplebargeken and Magnificent Rustbucket 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 And if I can't get it, they didn't make it. http://www.chatarricas.com/productos/regulador-electronico-dinamo-nk-1500_143_23.htm stillOrange and Magnificent Rustbucket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 BTW, that company sells a helluva lot for the 133:Â http://www.chatarricas.com/modelos/repuestos-seat-133_7.html Jim Bell, stillOrange and Skizzer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Top skillz there ^^ Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 BTW, that company sells a helluva lot for the 133: http://www.chatarricas.com/modelos/repuestos-seat-133_7.html Most importantly, STICKERS! http://www.chatarricas.com/productos/adhesivos_139.html Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Of course I just HAD to find out what a Motocarro Hispanomotor is. Well, it sure doesn't disappoint in the shite department: Magnificent Rustbucket, Coprolalia, egg and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Holy FUCK! JM, you are a fucking genius. No issues with spares there at all! Brilliant. I mean, look at all of those stickers! Stanky and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Really pleased that the engine isn't seized!!!! Excellent news. Yes, there was no way at all to access the plugs with the alternator in place. I did think that gap was for a regulator, but as the car had an alternator I didn't think that there would be a need for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017  Next, have a look at the plugs.Impossible to get access to them with my tiny hands so alternator had to go offPlenty of space now.IMG_3887.JPG Plugs I should change anyway...IMG_3888.JPG  Holy shit, plug gap number 3 is something to behold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I've just found among my books, a Fiat 850 Autobook. I realise it's for the older model, but if it's any good to you, come and get it, it's yours. Junkman, stillOrange, Magnificent Rustbucket and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillOrange Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Eddy, you're an angel sent from heaven. As far as I know, 133 is basically 850 with new shell. Running gear is pretty much the same.  I could really do with one of them.  I'm away in Bristol all week but will try to arrange collection at the nearest opportunity. KruJoe and eddyramrod 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Jimmy Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Loads of inspiration to be found on Egyptian Fiat/Seat 133 fan page.That there's an Egyptian Fiat/Seat Fan page is a cheery prospect in itself. eddyramrod, Fabergé Greggs and pompei 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'coli Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 It's the voltage regulator:Â Some earlier Fiats had a separate regulator - if it's got a 127 alternator it might not need it: I know my 126 didn't need it when I swapped its alternator. stillOrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Jimmy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I have a Fiat voltage regulator if there's a need; brand new in box, c1970 eddyramrod and stillOrange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillOrange Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 All the stars on the sky tell me that it doesn't need the regulator as it's converted to alternator instead of the original dynamo. Thank you Nibblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 They never had a dynamo.The question is whether it was converted to an alternator with built in regulator or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillOrange Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 850s did I think have dynamo. I thought this would be same. So how would I go about checking if I need the regulator with alternator or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Â If there is something similar to this on the back of the alternator, you don't need a separate voltege regulator. stillOrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Fraud Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The part code on your alternator corresponds to late 127s and early Unos, which I don't think had a separate voltage regulator. stillOrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillOrange Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 Slight progress today. Put in new plugs. The ones that I got were suggested by the website that Junkman found. They are much bigger than the old ones. Alternator back in. Ignition barrel supplied by very helpful shiter wired. Battery connected. Lights lit up, wipers moved, engine turns without a problem. Didn't get to start it though. I've put some petrol into the tank but the pump doesn't seem to draw anything out. Will have to investigate further. Maybe I could ask GGG to come round and fix the whole thing for me... BorniteIdentity and worldofceri 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Fraud Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 You'll probably stand a better chance of starting the thing if you give the carb float chamber a good clean and fill it with some fresh petrol. The pump may take a fair bit of time to draw fuel through, especially if the fuel lines are full of dried-out fuel sediment and rust. stillOrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwdChina Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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