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Project codename F133. Tiny car, tiny update.


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#31 OFFLINE   Capree

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 07:50 PM

126 and 127........


Yes, yes, I know that. Don't worry too much about it. The 133 is an interesting blend.
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Posted 12 May 2017 - 07:58 PM

When Mummy 126 and Daddy 127 love each other very much, they can have a child.............. hello 133.


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Posted 12 May 2017 - 08:40 PM

With a bit of milkman 850 thrown in


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:54 PM

Quick update.

Had to start it somewhere so decided to see if the engine is seized, it isn't. Good stuff.
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Next, have a look at the plugs.
Impossible to get access to them with my tiny hands so alternator had to go off
Plenty of space now.
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Plugs I should change anyway...
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Alternator is from Fiat 127 but it will probably do just fine.
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Wanted to see what state the radiator was. I can report that this car must have been a barn find as the amount of hey/straw found stuck to the radiator would feed family of hamsters for weeks.
Otherwise flushed it and it seems to hold water nicely, obviously it will be a different story when hot and under pressure but for now I'm happy.
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I noticed I'm missing something here... would anyone have an idea what should be there?
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 01:07 PM

Looks like quite a few previous owners had too tiny hands for changing the spark plugs, but couldn't be arsed to take the alternator out.
 

I noticed I'm missing something here... would anyone have an idea what should be there?


The hamster trap?
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 02:48 PM

Could be J-man...

I really need to get hold of some manual.

Shopping list:
Plugs,
Air filter,
Wheel nuts,
Battery,
Something to go with the master cylinder that I have no idea what it looks like, what it does and where it goes,
Something that is missing in the engine 'bay'

More to come
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:02 PM

It's some kind of relay or fuse box:

 

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:08 PM

It's the voltage regulator:

 

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1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:13 PM

You're the best Junkman!
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:13 PM

And if I can't get it, they didn't make it.

 

http://www.chatarric...1500_143_23.htm


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1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:15 PM

BTW, that company sells a helluva lot for the 133:

 

http://www.chatarric...seat-133_7.html


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1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:48 PM

Top skillz there ^^ :)
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:09 PM

BTW, that company sells a helluva lot for the 133:

 

http://www.chatarric...seat-133_7.html

 

Most importantly, STICKERS!

 

http://www.chatarric...esivos_139.html


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:06 PM

Of course I just HAD to find out what a Motocarro Hispanomotor is.

 

Well, it sure doesn't disappoint in the shite department:

 

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1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:25 PM

Holy FUCK! JM, you are a fucking genius.

 

No issues with spares there at all! Brilliant.

 

I mean, look at all of those stickers!


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:29 PM

Really pleased that the engine isn't seized!!!! Excellent news.

 

Yes, there was no way at all to access the plugs with the alternator in place. I did think that gap was for a regulator, but as the car had an alternator I didn't think that there would be a need for it.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:33 PM


Next, have a look at the plugs.
Impossible to get access to them with my tiny hands so alternator had to go off
Plenty of space now.
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Plugs I should change anyway...
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Holy shit, plug gap number 3 is something to behold


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:37 PM

I've just found among my books, a Fiat 850 Autobook.  I realise it's for the older model, but if it's any good to you, come and get it, it's yours.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:50 PM

Eddy, you're an angel sent from heaven.

As far as I know, 133 is basically 850 with new shell. Running gear is pretty much the same.

I could really do with one of them.

I'm away in Bristol all week but will try to arrange collection at the nearest opportunity.
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 08:18 PM

Loads of inspiration to be found on Egyptian Fiat/Seat 133 fan page.


That there's an Egyptian Fiat/Seat Fan page is a cheery prospect in itself.
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Posted 20 May 2017 - 07:41 AM

It's the voltage regulator:

https://img.milanuncios.com/fg/2233/14/2...

Some earlier Fiats had a separate regulator - if it's got a 127 alternator it might not need it: I know my 126 didn't need it when I swapped its alternator.
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Posted 20 May 2017 - 07:05 PM

I have a Fiat voltage regulator if there's a need; brand new in box, c1970
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Posted 20 May 2017 - 08:15 PM

All the stars on the sky tell me that it doesn't need the regulator as it's converted to alternator instead of the original dynamo.

Thank you Nibblet

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Posted Yesterday, 11:25 AM

They never had a dynamo.

The question is whether it was converted to an alternator with built in regulator or not.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:17 PM

850s did I think have dynamo. I thought this would be same.

So how would I go about checking if I need the regulator with alternator or not?

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Posted Yesterday, 12:55 PM

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If there is something similar to this on the back of the alternator, you don't need a separate voltege regulator.


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Posted Yesterday, 01:44 PM

The part code on your alternator corresponds to late 127s and early Unos, which I don't think had a separate voltage regulator.


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