Wanted 307 SW collected, need help with fuel leak

[sierraman]

There's millions of 1.6 HDIs on the road, not all of them have blown up. I'd still go for petrol though, I've had a diesel, it was ok but the insurance was a fortune and it didn't save me a great deal in fuel. Then this afternoon the injectors decided to retire at 130,000 miles during a test drive of the potential new owner. I shall be stripping it down on Monday before it goes to the breakers.

 

I don't feel too hard done to, once I've finished it should have cost me £200 for 7 months motoring... A colleague pays away £360 a month to rent one so I think I've done ok.

[Braddon81]

Where? From what I can see virtually everyone's said they're not as bad as is made out.

True....though they do mostly get a good kicking on the forum in general. Granted though in this case people have been a bit kinder

[conkerman]

I haven't, mine was shit.   FWIW it was a 110 HDi (with FAP).

On the positive side any still about should be the OK ones. The crap ones gone to James Brown.

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[Dirk Diggler]

I've just retired a 90bhp 2.0 diesel one; no dmf on these, easy changed uncoded injectors, egr easily disabled with a golf tee; I really rate these, they can take abuse and minimal maintenance; I'd take a hundred quid for mine and can't give it away; it's a fucked up world when a working diesel car isn't worth that; it feels consistently as unburstable as any old diesel Pug tbh

 

You could never get that engine in the SW; I'd be more careful of a 1.6; they're an oil sensitive engine. And oil sensitive owners in the thousand pound car range are rare

 

I'd have an Phase 1 V70 / 850 in a heartbeat over one though and a grand would buy a beauty

 

Or a Sharalaxy; they drive / are much better than you'd think and really are good reliable bigliness for cheaps

[rainagain]

Thanks the replies, I know a Galaxy would be a good choice but I just cant bring myself to buy a people carrier.

 

I think the 90 HDi was offered in the SW I will look out for one. Is the 110 2.0 massively different?

[conkerman]

My 110 had DMF and FAP.

 

Pretty sure they all did. Hopefully one of the Peugeot pervs will clarify.

 

 

 

 

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[Dirk Diggler]

90s had neither; I'd drive a Sharalaxy before I made that call; they're surprising

 

Edited to add: 2.0 90s had neither; there was a 1.6 90 with all the bothers (a good 1.6 is great, but etc.)

[rainagain]

I've found a nice looking 307 estate locally, however it's the estate and not the SW. This means it doesn't have the nice panoramic windscreen but more importantly doesn't have the mountings for the extra seats I need in the rear. I've tried to google this to death but I can't get a proper answer. Does anyone know if I can just bolt in the mountings and seat belt reels from a 307 SW at the breakers into an estate to allow me to fit the extra seats in the rear?

[barefoot]

Curiously I have a 307 estate 1.6 diesel at the mo.

It's just a loan car, but it seemed usefully brisk on the way home.

It didn't blow up and the windscreen wipers are huge.

I'll have another look in the morning...

[rainagain]

Curiously I have a 307 estate 1.6 diesel at the mo.

It's just a loan car, but it seemed usefully brisk on the way home.

It didn't blow up and the windscreen wipers are huge.

I'll have another look in the morning...

That would be great, the one I've seen is less than £400 and looks good.

[rainagain]

Well I went to see the 307 'estate' that was advertised on gumtree. Whilst sitting inside the car, my OH says to me "what's the panels in the roof for?"

"I don't know" I say, my OH then points out that the roof is all glass. Turns out this 'estate' is actually a SW!

 

However it's not all good, there's a slight chirpy noise that goes away when the clutch is pressed and feels a bit juddery taking up drive, it's also a 2.0 HDi 110 so possibly it has a buggered dmf.

 

The problem with the rear brakes turns out to be an abs fault shown on the dash.

 

But at less than half the cost of other SWs I've seen I couldn't say no! I'm assuming ebay Peugeot planet is the cheapest way to diagnosis abs fault?

 

So stay tuned for me pouring money into this pit soon....

[Pillock]

The ones with the panoramic roof are a nice idea, but for whatever reason they weight more than the moon. Something like 1700kg, the hatch is 1200 and the normal SW is 1400. I assume they've put a lot of wrought iron in the front end to keep things straight so it doesn't pop the glass all over your head.

 

It does make it nice and airy inside though.

[Dirk Diggler]

Abs fault will most likely be fixed with a good wire brushing and clean up of rear brakes; they rust like fuck and put the reluctor ring out of true; literally a take off, clean, and put back together

 

I've had two hatchbacks so far and that's done the trick, battery disconnect cleared the fault; but both were early 2.0 90s; I'm not sure if later ones are a little more involved

[rainagain]

Abs fault will most likely be fixed with a good wire brushing and clean up of rear brakes; they rust like fuck and put the reluctor ring out of true; literally a take off, clean, and put back together

 

I've had two hatchbacks so far and that's done the trick, battery disconnect cleared the fault; but both were early 2.0 90s; I'm not sure if later ones are a little more involved

It's a 2002 so hopefully this will sort it. How did you know which one to clean? Did you use any diag sw?

[Dirk Diggler]

Google told me I needed it, disconnecting the battery turned the light off after a good clean; they'll be seriously grotty

[AMC Rebel]

These had a bad rep for clutch/flywheel issues (on the diesels) when new. No idea why, but the problem seemed to affect the SW particularly. This is from memory. I like them though - nearly bought a pez one last year. Any damage to the glass roof would write it off no doubt - I saw one for sale with cracked and leaking roof.

[dieselnutjob]

The 2.0 8 valve HDI is basically bomb proof; it's the only diesel engine that I know of that will survive a cambelt break (normally they just bust a few rocker arms).

 

Also you can replace the DMF with a solid flywheel, I did it on my 806 HDI.

 

My neighbours have a 306 HDI SW and they don't seem to be able to kill despite much abuse and neglect.  The electric roof doesn't work and the power steering pump is noisy but apart from that it all works.

 

They also did a Berlingo and Doblo with seven seats but I have no idea what they go for.

 

My old boss had a Honda FRV and loved it.

[Dirk Diggler]

Ive been led to believe that all 2.0 90s have solid flywheels?

[barefoot]

Had a look, it's still there.

It's got a illuminated engine & airbag fault lamps but it only cost the garage £250.

Hatch/boot although long, looks a little narrow to squeeze two seats into.

It's black.

06 reg I think.

[sierraman]

I'd leave it, if the garage can't be arsed to knock the lamps out it's 90% chance it's something serious.

 

Look on EBay etc there's loads of these 'just wants xxxx' bags of shite being punted on at £100 or so less than price of a good example.

[rainagain]

Picked up the 307 today and drove to my dads to store it/sort abs.

 

When I got there, there was diesel all down the side of the car. The tank looks damp as well. There's a big jubilee on the filler pipe where it enters the tank. The fuel has come out the filler neck, it looks like part of the neck isn't lined up right. There's also a piece of string attached to the shocker tower which I suspect is something to do with it.

 

Anyone seen a filler neck like this, it looks like a pipe inside a larger pipe.

[sierraman]

Someone might have had to take the tank out and had to 'improvise' to replace the fuel tank. I'd take the pipe off and reseat it all. Where's the actual tank cap?

[rainagain]

I've got the cap, however it looks like the fuel is leaking past the two sort of open rectangular holes into the outer pipe and then spilling out as the black ring doesn't seal onto this pipe

[sierraman]

If it's got less than say 3/4 of a tank fuel shouldn't be getting that far up unless you were at such an angle that it would piss out. Have you checked the breather system?

[rainagain]

It's got a quarter at the moment, although I was driving in an 'enthusiastic' manner on some of the corners. How would I check the breather system?

[rainagain]

Possible 'giffer' mod to filler pipe.

[sierraman]

Usually a pipe that vents out through the back of the bumpers into an actual vent. Once had a really strong smell of fuel on a car years ago, turned out the flaps that are on the vents had stuck shut.

 

I would wire brush the area back round the filler pipe where it runs from the tank then reseat it all, possibly using some RTV sealant where a leak looks possible.

[rainagain]

HBOL ordered moments before I found a pdf version online for free

 

In the meantime I thought I would have a go at cleaning the interior to try and get rid of the smoke smell. I used the two bucket wrong 'un method. As you can see I managed to remove a fair bit of filth

[twosmoke300]

That giffer repair with the twisted wire is the top shock mount isn't it ? Holding the bump stop up I believe

[rainagain]

Maybe, I thought it looked like it a bit of wire went up to the filler pipe. I'll find out when I get the arch liner out.