Wanted 307 SW collected, need help with fuel leak

[rainagain]

My family is due to grow soon so I'm going to need a car that for Mon-Fri will take me on a daily 60 mile round trip to work, then at the weekend it will need to have at least six seats (three adults, three kids).

 

I was looking at the 307 SW HDi as you can pick up extra seats for the rear of them quite cheap, they also have great fuel economy and are quite cheap. I've read some buying guides online and it seems I should watch out for rattly DMFs, leaky injectors and knackered DPFs, is there anything else I should look out for?

 

As I currently own and love my Volvo S80, in an ideal world I would just get a diesel V70 with the extra rear seats, but I can't for two reasons, firstly the extra rear seats are a fortune if you can find them and secondly so are the asking prices for diesel V70s. Also due to their size they don't offer particularly good fuel economy anyway.

 

I really don't want a people carrier of a Fiat Multipla, apart from the 307 SW is there any other diesel estates that offer occasional seats in the back? Is buying a 307 SW the worse thing I could do?

 

Any advice appreciated (as long as it has cruise control, after the S80 I don't think I could commute in a car without it! )

 

Edit:

 

my budget is £1k max, ideally less

[dave21478]

I would be interested in hearing opinions on the 307.

 

My personal belief is that the something-oh-six range of Peugeots are the last worth owning and anything later is wank, but these 307s have fallen into my price range and I wonder about one as a replacement for the Escort.

 

From what I gather they can be had with the 2 litre HDi and a 1.6 HDi which is best avoided. I think there are a couple of versions of the two litre with different power....90bhp and 110 iirc?

I used to have a 2 litre HDI 306 and realy rated it as an engine, although in the 306 it lacks the particle filter and dmf of the newer version.

 

There are a couple of pez variants but I know nothing about them.

[320touring]

406 estate with foldaway rear seats is the better option over the 307

[FakeConcern]

Can you not get a V70 with 7 seats already fitted? I had a T5 7 seater for many years & loved it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-V70-D5-7-seater-low-mileage-/252885493191?hash=item3ae12665c7:g:ruAAAOSwRUhY-jhF

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-VOLVO-V70-D5-SE-E4-GREY-7-SEATER-Towbar-/222466527940?hash=item33cc09d2c4:g:KMIAAOSw3utY58yq

[stripped fred]

I know you say you don't want a people carrier but I'm very pleased with the sharan I bought recently. I also said i never wanted a people carrier, until i had one. 40+mpg from my auto 1.9tdi model so the manual should be better. Very comfortable for your commute. With one seat left out will still have adequate luggage space even with 6 people. Might be worth considering as will grow with your family. Many are abused though so you would need to shop around.

[rainagain]

Can you not get a V70 with 7 seats already fitted? I had a T5 7 seater for many years & loved it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-V70-D5-7-seater-low-mileage-/252885493191?hash=item3ae12665c7:g:ruAAAOSwRUhY-jhF

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-VOLVO-V70-D5-SE-E4-GREY-7-SEATER-Towbar-/222466527940?hash=item33cc09d2c4:g:KMIAAOSw3utY58yq

 

Lovely looking cars however about £1.5k more than my budget, I was looking at things like this:

 

https://www.gumtree.com/p/peugeot/2006-peugeot-307-sw-se-hdi-110.-silver.-110-560-miles.-motd-until-5-8-2017/1229428142

 

I've seen a lot less than 1K as well

[rainagain]

406 estate with foldaway rear seats is the better option over the 307

 

Didn't even know you could get these, are they quite common?

[M'coli]

Fiat Multipla.

Honda FRV.

Job done.

[320touring]

Didn't even know you could get these, are they quite common?

Yep, a fair few about.. About 40 showing on Gumtree if you google them for sale:)

[rainagain]

Yep, a fair few about.. About 40 showing on Gumtree if you google them for sale:)

What did you search for? I just searched 406 estate in Fife on Gumtree and got no results. It found a couple further afield but none had the extra seats.

[320touring]

What did you search for? I just searched 406 estate in Fife on Gumtree and got no results. It found a couple further afield but none had the extra seats.

As I said, type in '406 7seater for sale' to google..

 

Gumtree should pop up.

 

Its easier than trying to use the Gumtree search;)

[rainagain]

I would be interested in hearing opinions on the 307.

 

My personal belief is that the something-oh-six range of Peugeots are the last worth owning and anything later is wank, but these 307s have fallen into my price range and I wonder about one as a replacement for the Escort.

 

From what I gather they can be had with the 2 litre HDi and a 1.6 HDi which is best avoided. I think there are a couple of versions of the two litre with different power....90bhp and 110 iirc?

I used to have a 2 litre HDI 306 and realy rated it as an engine, although in the 306 it lacks the particle filter and dmf of the newer version.

 

There are a couple of pez variants but I know nothing about them.

Is the 1.6 HDi the engine where it needs a rebuild when you change the turbo or is that the 1.4?

[fatharris]

Why has no one said Austin Montego Countryman estate yet?

 

This place, etc...

 

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[Dick Longbridge]

My brother had one in the mid-noughties as a company car for a couple of years.

It pulled like a train, was good on derv, but the electrics were HOPELESS.

Hth.

[rainagain]

It pulled like a train, was good on derv, but the electrics were HOPELESS.

Hth.

Any idea what sort of faults it had? One guide said buy 2005 onwards as the electric issues were sorted by then but they don't say what they were. I don't mind sorting out bad connections and poor earths but is the body control unit likes to randomly not work I don't think I could cope with it.

 

My OH had a Stilo which also have a bad reputation for electrical problems. The problems were just bad connections and easily sorted by either hard wiring connectors (seat sensor plugs) or by the use of contact cleaner.

[Honey Badger]

Fiat Multipla.

Honda FRV.

Job done.

 

M'coli beat me to it, F-RV would be a good bet with the 2.2 diesel, if you ca. Live with Pez then a Honda Stream might be worth looking at. The 2.0 petrol go well and they are Civic based so not too expensive to get parts for.

[Cavcraft]

307s have had a bit of a bashing on here*, my limited experience with them says they're not that bad. As above though, just avoid the 1.6HDi at all costs. 

 

 

 

*In the past.

[conkerman]

Utter turds.

 

By far the worst car I have owned. I bought an 18 month old one. List of failures

 

CD changer x2

Turbot

Clutch

Flywheel

Crank pulley/vibration damper

 

Fucking thing was punted on as soon as warranty ran out and I haven't had a PSA car since. Wasn't bad when working, rear axle was a bit harsh.

 

For 3 adults and 3 kids, I agree that a multipla/sharan are a better bet.

 

 

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[rainagain]

307s have had a bit of a bashing on here*, my limited experience with them says they're not that bad. As above though, just avoid the 1.6HDi at all costs.

 

 

 

*In the past.

What is it that is so wrong with the 1.6?

[DSdriver]

Citroen CX Familiale. Amazing... with room for further family expansion. Or sixty cases of wine.

[320touring]

What is it that is so wrong with the 1.6?

The 1.6hdi is just a rubbish engine- lots of common failures and heartache.

 

The 2.0 hdi is much better regarded

[Cavcraft]

What is it that is so wrong with the 1.6?

 

Everything from failing turbos to failing engines. A ticking time bomb of an engine if ever there were one.

[Dick Longbridge]

Any idea what sort of faults it had? One guide said buy 2005 onwards as the electric issues were sorted by then but they don't say what they were. I don't mind sorting out bad connections and poor earths but is the body control unit likes to randomly not work I don't think I could cope with it.

My OH had a Stilo which also have a bad reputation for electrical problems. The problems were just bad connections and easily sorted by either hard wiring connectors (seat sensor plugs) or by the use of contact cleaner.

Tbf, his was a 55 plate, so I guess that could be a late 2004? Even when a young whippersnapper, his had central locking issues, along with dash and indicator stalk issues. It used to throw up dash warning lights as standard as well iirc.

[Uncle Jimmy]

The 307 wasn't well received at the time; plenty of far better cheap cars out there. I'd go for a Mondeo or Volvo.

[rantingYoof]

I'd be avoiding any mid-2000s diesel-engined car for like the plague at the £1000 mark, take the hit on additional fuel cost simply to avoid the extensive pain that such a vehicle is more likely to cause by virtue of being over a decade old with more finnicky engines.

 

[/paranoid]

 

This is probably a wee bit underpowered with a 1.8, but I think it's on the right lines:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-Mazda5-1-8-TS2-2005-55-12-months-mot-bargain-/262946766980

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mazda-5-ts-sport-mpv-seven-seater-petrol-2006-/272641607566

 

Of course, being a mid-2000s Mazda it's probably just rust underneath now.

[Cleon-Fonte]

I would be interested in hearing opinions on the 307.

 

My personal belief is that the something-oh-six range of Peugeots are the last worth owning and anything later is wank, but these 307s have fallen into my price range and I wonder about one as a replacement for the Escort.

 

From what I gather they can be had with the 2 litre HDi and a 1.6 HDi which is best avoided. I think there are a couple of versions of the two litre with different power....90bhp and 110 iirc?

I used to have a 2 litre HDI 306 and realy rated it as an engine, although in the 306 it lacks the particle filter and dmf of the newer version.

 

There are a couple of pez variants but I know nothing about them.

 

Earlier diesels had the 90hp 8v HDi carried straight over from the 306, then in 2004 it was replaced with the scary/self-destructive 1.6 HDi and a 136hp 16v 2.0 HDi with all the usual modern diesel things to go wrong. 1.4 and 1.6 petrols are just the old Peugeot TU units, with an XU-based 2.0 petrol that's not much quicker than the 1.6 but burns fuel at a much greater rate.

 

If what I've heard is correct the post-2005 facelifted 307s with the guppy mouth had a lot of the faults (and sometimes dodgy rustproofing) of the earlier ones ironed out, my 2006 1.6 petrol certainly felt solid enough and except for ECUs occasionally forgetting what they were supposed to do I never had an issue. Aside from routine servicing it never needed any mechanical attention whatsoever.

 

Obviously compared with the 306, the 307 is pretty crap to drive and the ride is pretty harsh too (despite the thing leaning like a 2CV in corners). Where the 307 does score above its predecessor, though, is the interior: the glazed area is absolutely huge for maximum airiness and there's enough space in there to hold a rugby match. The dashboard and other minor detailing is quite nice too, a bit less Airfix-esque than French cars of old.

[Braddon81]

All the usual scaremongering and hearsay on 307s. There not really as bad as people make then out to be. Id avoid a 1.6hdi purely because of Turbo problems and most examples now don't have a cast iron service record. A pal of mine has had one from new, a 2006 1.6hdi Sw in Se spec. Now on 140k has changed the oil every 10k, chucked a clutch in it at 100k and an egr Valve at 120k,he loves it to bits knows its now worth very little and he's laughs at all his mates spanking all their money on old pub landlord naughties premium Mercs and Beemers which give on a day to day basis far more electrical and mechanical niggly grief than his Pug.

I've had a 2004 307cc in my fleet for a decade now and nearly 100k and again it's given great service,its never failed to proceed and has only ever had a pair of rear wheel bearings disks and pads and a coil pack. Everything still works as intended....in fact I'm running 5 Psa cars from the naughties from which all the arm chair experts will tell you all sorts of doom and gloom story's, the reality is running a 307 is no real greater risk than running any other 10 to 15 year old motor.

Personally I'd go for a 1.6 16v petrol, or a very late 2.0 hdi. The seven seats in the Sw is rather a tight squeeze though.

[Cleon-Fonte]

All the usual scaremongering and hearsay on 307s.

 

Where? From what I can see virtually everyone's said they're not as bad as is made out.

[bub2006]

I keep hearing all these bad things about 1.6 hdi engines but my dad has a 3 year old one with about 150k on the clock. Only issues he has had us a gearbox rebuild 10k back but no turbo or engine issues. I can say the 307 7 seater looks very cramped in the back. A friend had one and wasn't much space at all.

[r.welfare]

What I can tell you is that I wouldn't recommend a 2003-on Espace unless you have time and/or money on your hands rectifying poor maintenance, design faults or a combination of the two, although I'm fond of mine now it's working well.