155V6 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Anyone had any experience of these?.I've been removing the rear beam from my Rover 25 donor car to fit into my ZR Express which I'm rebuilding after I crashed it.One of the bolts which goes through the bottom of the shock absorber wouldn't come undone & I managed to round it off.I've seen the sockets on Ebay,but never actually knew much about them.Alternatively,any other ideas how to get the bolt out,I was thinking I may be able to get someone to weld something to it,but I'd rather do it myself if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Is that the ones with all the round pins in ? If so they are junk of the highest order .Irwin bolt grips are dear but they actually work cobblers, spike60 and overrun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Or - wait for it - hammer a smaller socket over it ! Actually this works well as the impact often breaks the rust seal at the same time paulplom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 I'll give them a miss then.I'll try the smaller socket though,worth a go.If that doesn't work,I'll go & see my friendly mechanic & see if he's got some of the bolt grips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4mes Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Irwins or Stilsons and heat would be your best bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiperCub Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 ^^ As above, Irwin or the win (sorry about that!). Stilsons will work but will ruin the nut usually (not an issue here tho'). Gator grips are a lovely idea in theory but utterly shit in my two or three experiences of using them. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I couldn't get on with them. I got a full set of Irwin (box plus top up set) from Amazon when last year when they were on offer for a silly low price - worth a check to see if any offers still on. Belfast Gipsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Gipsy Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 +1 for the Irwin. I've yet to find the Gator useful/effective in any situation - but I had to buy one obvs! overrun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewd Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I was also going to recommend the Irwins, I have a set and they're great. If it's for a bottom shock bolt you might struggle depending on size, I think that they go up to about 19mm (I can't check my set as they're currently in my brothers' workshop). I would also recommend Plus Gas and heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overrun Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 +1 for the Irwin. I've yet to find the Gator useful/effective in any situation - but I had to buy one obvs!Gator Grip's are a joke. Irwin bolt grips are undefeatable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noseypoke Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 ^^ Agree Gator are ok for the kids plastic tool kit....but on metal ...crap!!Mr Gator and all the "OTHER COPIES" must be making them Brewsters think every one on the planet has forked out for only to disappointed then they get chucked in a corner of your toolbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegod Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 The discovery of Irwin bolt removers only had slightly less impact on me than when I discovered women, both are great with nuts.......... tinribs and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 Update-I tried the smaller socket,but it still hasn't moved.I've been looking at the Irwins,price is not too bad but not sure about sizes.The bolt is 15mm which works out at 19/32,but the sets only seem to have 16mm(5/8)or 14mm(9/16).How tight fitting do they need to be to work properly?.There are cheaper bolt removers which have a 15mm size,but the reviews don't seem to be nearly as good so I guess you get what you pay for with these?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskine Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 You could smash the 14mm one over with a hammer. I've properly abused my bolt grips over the years, battering them onto tonnes of rounded bolts.Is there not a set with metric sizes?They still work perfectly, fuck knows how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewd Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The Irwin ones taper in towards the rear of the socket, so there might be one that fits. Screwfix do their own brand version, I've never used them http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-bolt-nut-remover-set-6-pieces/6083D?kpid=6083D&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%2520Listing%2520Ads-_-Sales%2520Tracking-_-sales%2520tracking%2520url&gclid=CODvoNayu9MCFeUp0wodigkLew&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CPXBrdayu9MCFY8R0wodAuEFkQ One of the reviews mention that they only go up to 14mm but the reviewer was able to hammer it onto a 15mm bolt and use an 18" breaker bar on it. They're a cheaper option at £13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 They need to be pretty tight so just hammer the 14mm onto it. Don't be shy with it make sure it's well attached. The bolt will likely be stuck in the grip after it's removed but easy enough to sort in a vice etc. They're worth the money for the time they save you. Use mine a lot and have so far always worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 Thanks for the replies ,I'm going to try the Screwfix ones as they're nearly half the price & I can get a set tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 look out for the irwin expansion pack as ths has a different set of sizes 5 Piece Contents: 5/16†(8mm), 10mm, 13mm, 11/16â€, 3/4†(19mm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 Well,the Screwfix(Erbauer) grips did the job.I hammered on the 14mm grip & the bolt came undone with a lot of leverage.It was really tight all the way out though,this was because the bolt was rusted into the sleeve through the bottom of the shock.As I undid it,it was ripping the sleeve out of the rubber bush.Once the bolt was undone,I had to cut the bottom of the shock away,then I was able to cut the bolt into bits,& eventually pull it out in pieces.Two weeks to get one bolt out,that's bad even for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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