Sam Glover Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 ...more of a question than a competition, actually. I’m bothering a Volga M21K. It was one of the first Thomson and Taylor UK imports, registered new in the UK in 1962. It’s suffered a quantity of British reengineering. ‘You can’t get the parts, you know.’ The live rear axle, brakes and wheels are most definitely not Volga – or indeed Russian. The threads are UNF, so I’m guessing they're from a large British saloon. Does anyone recognise any of the following? Of course, the axle, brakes and wheels don’t necessarily come from the same car. The standard of lashing together is low. The way the brake backplates have been mounted upside-down – thus presumably rendering the cylinders unbleedable – demonstrates high-quality thinking. Coprolalia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Ford Consul/ZephyrAustin WestminsterVauxhall Velox/CrestaHumber Hawk/Super Snipe Those are my best guesses for you Sam, sorry I'm not familiar enough with each car's underpinnings to narrow it down any further.. The Ford or Vauxhall will probably be the top contenders as there would be many 50s versions breaking at the time. Good luck! Magnificent Rustbucket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 PCD of the wheel studs might help. The gubbins on the rear cover for handbrake bell rank must be a clue too.What's the ratio? lt might be a van axle if it is really short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Glover Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Humber Hawk/Super Snipe Ahhh... good work. I neglected Humber in my Google image search frenzy. Some Hawk/Super Snipe wheels and brakes look about right. I'll see if I can find an axle picture in my museum of manuals... Skizzer, eddyramrod and M'coli 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_E23 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I can't identify it either, but my suggestion would be to measure the track as accurately as you can manage and use the info on a website like carfolio.com to work out what it might be from. eddyramrod and Magnificent Rustbucket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I would wager the tyres aren't original either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1703 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Looks a bit rootes, hillman minx? tooSavvy and Magnificent Rustbucket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1703 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Actually... now I think of it,I'm MOTing a minx on Tuesday,I'll have a look eddyramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Humber Hawk is the first thing that popped into my head too - maybe some dark recess of my brain remembers what the underside of my Hawk looked like (apart from rusty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUNO Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 try this... These seem to be a match for the wheels !! Magnificent Rustbucket, eddyramrod and cort1977 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 A vague memory of those hubcap lugs being a Rootes "thing" is what prompted me to suggest Humber in the first place! STUNO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Glover Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Excellent! The brakes and wheels are most definitely Hawk. I can’t find a photo of a Hawk axle, but its stats line up. The track looks right – and Carfolio suggests that the Humber’s is only 12mm narrower than the Volga’s, so that figures. The ratios are 4.22 (Humber) vs 3.78 (Volga), which may explain why the Volga feels nippy despite being utterly borked. I really like the unventilated Humber wheels. They’d cut a dash in shit red paint. STUNO, Vince70, tooSavvy and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisbon_road Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I know photographs can be kind but it looks in amazing condition. Is it as good as it looks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Rustbucket Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It's a lovely looking old car - I have always thought these Volgas are very handsome things. It doesn't surprise me that someone on here has recognised the axle, there is a great depth of knowledge here. I'm still impressed that people have though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Glover Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 The Humber-axled M21K is rough as arseholes, actually. It requires Stakhanovite mechanical fettling and the body’s pretty scabby beneath the knacker-lacquer. I agree. The M21’s styling has grown on me. I think the Series 3’s Soviet kitsch jewellery is rather more elegant, though. This is my everyday M21S… Forgive the fake whitewall trims – a scar of its Moscow origin. It’s now wearing correct non-whitewall crossplies. Dead_E23, cort1977, scruff and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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