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Project Martorell (Seat 133)


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#31 OFFLINE   Felly Magic

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 09:49 PM

I was watching internet gaming bloke Squirrel play My Summer Car, and the green car that flies around is one of these. I'd say the ignition and locks would be the same as a Fiat 126 at a rough guess


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 10:22 PM

Could be. No sodding wires around the locality that look ignition orientated though.

 

Much puzzlement!



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 08:45 AM

Wow that's responded really well to a good clean! It looks very solid for one of these, has it had any aftermarket rustproofing?

Re the engine lid, I think junkman posted up a link to a NOS replacement on the original Sam Glover thread.
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 09:29 AM

Looks great, this must surely only need a couple of days worth of fettling.

It's odd about the ignition switch - did this ever have a steering lock? Check the starter and find the wire in the solenoid and trace it back. You can spin the starter by just powering up the starter. I love doing wiring.

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:00 AM

It's still pretty rank inside, lots of straw oddly enough. Tons of scrubbing required. 

 

Shame about the drivers seat damage, but hey ho. 

 

I can't see much in the way of rust protection to be honest.

 

The wiring will likely be the last thing I tackle. You love doing wiring eh? Hmmm. where are you ;)



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:01 AM

Oh, just created a fb group for this little car and any others in the UK.

 

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:07 PM

I'm trying to learn Spanish ATM. If you see what looks like an interesting article, send it to me and I'll try and translate it and post it up on here! These are a well interesting motor and it will be good practice.
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:20 PM

Mostly because I can't speak Spanish.


I'm trying to learn Spanish ATM.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:36 PM

I think I would rather eat my own eyeballs than ^^

 

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 08:42 PM

Could be. No sodding wires around the locality that look ignition orientated though.

 

Much puzzlement!

I seem to recall many years back coming across a FIAT that had a little lever on the floor behind the gear lever that you pulled up to start. I may be talking total bollocks here and it's a completely different car.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 08:50 PM

If its any help I have an early Renault 4 and that doesn't have a key. No ignition, no steering lock, just a switch to turn it on.
So maybe its a similar set up?
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 09:37 PM

Oh now that is odd. There is a pull knob by the handbrake.

 

I presumed it was a choke.



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 09:50 PM

Oh now that is odd. There is a pull knob by the handbrake.

 

I presumed it was a choke.

I had seen that in the pictures which is what provoked my post. However, a further bit of Googleing suggests that it should have a steering lock as they were required post 1971. In which case I think there should be a key unit which my guess is, was clamped around the steering column where that slot is.

Also, there's a Spanish pdf of a manual which I found with Google but what it covers exactly, whether it costs money and whether it is safe I can not tell.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:31 PM

Hmm, more to think about. If you could send me the link I will have a look.

 

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:11 PM

The 500s and early 126s had two levers between the front seats, one for the choke and one for the starter.  If the 133 only has one, chances are it's the choke.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:36 PM

Came across this youtube clip



Shows that there definitely is an ignition switch and the choke lever being used

Hope this helps :)
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:45 PM

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:09 AM

Great save. I absolutely love these and SEAT-based 850s, as I learned to drive on one. ATB139L, are you out there?



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:09 AM

There were quite a lot of these in Cairo when I was there in 2004.   I vaguely remember getting a bit of stink eye from the passenger of one for some reason. 

 

Safer VW motoring mag did a road test on one. I'll see if I can find it.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:30 AM

There were quite a lot of these in Cairo when I was there in 2004. 

Built under licence in Egypt - read it somewhere.

 

Manual as .pdf allegedly. No idea as to safety of link.

http://solopdf.com/seat_133.htm


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:21 AM

ATB139L, are you out there?


Untaxed since 1989, so probably not!

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 08:10 PM

That picture of the 133 steering wheel reminds me of my early 70's 127, but not in a good way.
The lethal lighting stalk: four positions: all off - parking lights - dipped headlights - main beam headlights.
So if you are not very careful when dipping the headlights you can push the stalk through the dip position straight to parking or even all off.

As for those floor mounted starters as on the 500 etc; the starter doesn't have a solenoid, the little floor lever pulls via a short cable to move the starter pinion into engagement with the flywheel and then closes the electrical contacts. No solenoid required. An arrangement also seen on old tractors.

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 10:55 PM

Haven't seen a button on the floor tbh. Internetz research and piccies seems to confirm ignition lock and so ons.



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 12:57 PM

I've had som ace advice and pointers from here re: the 133 and I am hugely grateful :)

 

This especially made me chuckle :) :) :)

 

you really should sell me the 133 if you no whats good for you I don't think its the sort of thing you can handle. but your going to need to take a hit, the 133 club don't take kindly to imposters. re list the little car, it needs to be in the right hands, no disrespect but its not you.

 

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 07:43 PM

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 08:11 PM

Is that for real? If so have a whip round on here so you're not out of pocket, then just weigh it in.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 08:21 PM

 
This especially made me chuckle :) :) :)
 
you really should sell me the 133 if you no whats good for you I don't think its the sort of thing you can handle. but your going to need to take a hit, the 133 club don't take kindly to imposters. re list the little car, it needs to be in the right hands, no disrespect but its not you.
 
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

That's a joke, right?
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 08:33 PM

I'm presuming it to be :)

 

I know whats good for me........ lots and lots of shite rusty cars lol.


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 08:59 PM

I hope that's a joke?
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Posted 23 March 2017 - 08:50 AM

It's fine guys, I took it for nothing more than a tongue in cheek joke. I have no concerns that someone on here would actually mean such a thing lol.

 

Thanks again to everyone who has chipped in with advice and wiring diagrams, hugely appreciated. No Fiat?Seat action this weekend as I am working :(






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