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#121 OFFLINE   Kiltox

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:00 PM

Clocks can be removed without removing the steering wheel FYI

Definitely dont know this from removing the brake pad wear warning light from one in the past
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:10 PM

Clocks can be removed without removing the steering wheel FYI

Definitely dont know this from removing the brake pad wear warning light from one in the past


I couldnt even get the clocks out with the indicator set bolted up, never mind the steering wheel on!

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:15 PM



But tbh, those clocks look a right pigs ear mess. What about soldering wire straight from the two pins on the connector to the bulb itself directly?


Never thought of soldering direct to the bulb holder. Theres nowt to lose like. Cheers.

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#124 OFFLINE   dave21478

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:37 PM

I wonder if that track somehow got blown out by a power spike from a dying alternator regulator?

 

 

Plan B - Remove the pin from the stop solenoid and only ever park on a hill so you can bump start it, then stall it when you park up again.  These cars dont really need electricity anyway and stuff like headlights and indicators are for the weak.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:39 PM

I did achieve one improvement.

 

 

 

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I found a decent boot carpet.

 

 

 

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Useless but opulent.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:41 PM

I wonder if that track somehow got blown out by a power spike from a dying alternator regulator?

 

 

Plan B - Remove the pin from the stop solenoid and only ever park on a hill so you can bump start it, then stall it when you park up again.  These cars dont really need electricity anyway and stuff like headlights and indicators are for the weak.

 

That would be mint if I lived on or near a hill and worked at the top of a hill.

 

Unfortunately I currently achieve 0/2.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:44 PM

You could bump this off those massive speed bumps on your street, no?


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:46 PM

Thats brilliant. I havent seen a parcel shelf with empty 6x9 holes since about 1998.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:59 PM

You could bump this off those massive speed bumps on your street, no?

 

Yes, no.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:00 PM

What about connecting the bulb directly between the alternator terminal for it and the battery +v terminal. That way, it should verify that the alternator actually works and can charge.

I'd be very surprised if the current from a bulb would be sufficient to blow the track like that. Given the thinness of the bulb filaments, I'd expect that to blow as a fuse first.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:01 PM

Thats brilliant. I havent seen a parcel shelf with empty 6x9 holes since about 1998.

 

The lad I got it off said it came like this from the factory as it was a special order for a zoo that needed it to transport curious baby giraffes in pairs.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:02 PM

Why bump when you have one of these rechargeable engine starter doo dars?
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Just keep it charged over night with your phone.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:02 PM

What about connecting the bulb directly between the alternator terminal for it and the battery +v terminal. That way, it should verify that the alternator actually works and can charge.

I'd be very surprised if the current from a bulb would be sufficient to blow the track like that. Given the thinness of the bulb filaments, I'd expect that to blow as a fuse first.

 

I wish I was capable of this.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:06 PM

Why bump when you have one of these rechargeable engine starter doo dars?
Just keep it charged over night with your phone.

 

 

Then its basically an electric vehicle! I might get a tax break out of it? 

Charge the battery every night, charge the jump pack trough the day. Dont drive at night, or in the rain.  I bet someone that wasnt me, could get along for YEARS without getting sick of that routine.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:08 PM

More seriously, if those instrument clusters are unobtanium over there I am pretty sure I could bag one from the scrappy here and post over the circuit board.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:17 PM

More seriously, if those instrument clusters are unobtanium over there I am pretty sure I could bag one from the scrappy here and post over the circuit board.

 

Ah cheers fella.  There seem to be loads around, but looking at the rears, none in this specific set up.  1996 was of course helpfully a facelift changeover year and mines a mega late ph1.  I'm not sure if similar ones would suffice.

 

 

 

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:51 PM

Whats the bulb on the other blown bulb circuit on that dash on the right?
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

I'd be thinking of finding something it doesn't have (like front fogs or airbag), and use one of the spare light holes to put the alternator bulb in.

You then need to swap the alternator wire on one of the multiplugs into the right hole for thing_it_doesn't_have as it'll just be a direct connection.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:55 PM

Whats the bulb on the other blown bulb circuit on that dash on the right?

 

http://www.diagnosti...ghts_221491.cfm

 

Full beam? Except then it does have a bulb in the one to the left (as you look at the front) of full beam which should be empty according to that page.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:58 PM

Thats brilliant. I havent seen a parcel shelf with empty 6x9 holes since about 1998.

The Rover of Doom has one.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:06 PM

Ah cheers fella.  There seem to be loads around, but looking at the rears, none in this specific set up.  1996 was of course helpfully a facelift changeover year and mines a mega late ph1.  I'm not sure if similar ones would suffice.

 

 

 

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I will be at the scrapyard either tomorrow or Wednesday. If you want I will have a look for a circuitboard like that one?



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:07 PM

Whats the bulb on the other blown bulb circuit on that dash on the right?


I dont know at the moment as the clockset is back in the car in the next street. Pillock has already answered though.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:14 PM

I'd be thinking of finding something it doesn't have (like front fogs or airbag), and use one of the spare light holes to put the alternator bulb in.
You then need to swap the alternator wire on one of the multiplugs into the right hole for thing_it_doesn't_have as it'll just be a direct connection.


I did consider suggesting this. However you'd need to make sure one side is positive to battery (rather than negative) and the other is disconnected for sure. Get it wrong and you could let a whole lot of smoke out.

WW doesn't seem overly confident with guiding electrons in the right place, so (no offence intended) it could end up a whole lot worse if wrong.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:17 PM

Anyone have a circuit diagram for one of these? Pondering if a fuse for the battery light may be blown but not sure which one it's shared with.
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2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:23 PM

Bung them clocks in the post to me WW and I will literally repair them for you on my lunch at work, as you'll deffo struggle to find another set (phase 1 but with electric speedo)


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:14 PM

I'm pretty certain there's no independent fuse for the charging circuit.  Also, when the alternator failed on the 106D I had (that ended up with Castros_bro), it stopped putting the battery light on when it should after some initial DASHBOARD DISCO LIGHTS and then stopped charging altogether..

I think the fault with your car Wilsonx2 is an alternator failure and the warning light nastiness is a bit of a red herring.  If there was no bulb, it would still charge, albeit not correctly.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:16 PM

WW doesn't seem overly confident with guiding electrons in the right place, so (no offence intended) it could end up a whole lot worse if wrong.


This is a fact and also very true.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:20 PM

I'm pretty certain there's no independent fuse for the charging circuit. Also, when the alternator failed on the 106D I had (that ended up with Castros_bro), it stopped putting the battery light on when it should after some initial DASHBOARD DISCO LIGHTS and then stopped charging altogether..
I think the fault with your car Wilsonx2 is an alternator failure and the warning light nastiness is a bit of a red herring. If there was no bulb, it would still charge, albeit not correctly.


Cheers fella. Thats great info. I have purchased a new alt and belt from that ebay that they have these days. Currently en route. Might be worth swapping it on then. Could end up with incorrect charging rather then none at all. That would be a few steps in the right direction.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:31 PM

If there was no bulb, it would still charge, albeit not correctly.


If there is no current to energise the rotor from the bulb circuit, where does this power come from to start to energise it?
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2007 Honda Civic EX CTDi - The reliable runner that is like the family pet.
2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:37 PM

If there is no current to energise the rotor from the bulb circuit, where does this power come from to start to energise it?

 

 

 

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