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#241 OFFLINE   Junkman

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:50 PM

Have you ever checked with your garagiste whether those seals can be changed in situ?


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:58 PM

I'm going to have a look. 



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Posted 03 May 2017 - 12:36 PM

I'm sure everyone who's read my Rover thread is familiar with what happens when I attempt a simple 'replace component' job. I decide it'll take an hour, start at 5pm, park the car where it cannot be left if I immobilise it, immobilise it, fuck up the job so hard it causes a stock market crash then finish at 2am a shattered nervous wreck. 

 

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So when this arrived this morning I was conflicted. Should I take it to a garage and ask them to fit it? It would be the most sensible thing, since I can't even push the car off the drive if both the front wheels are pointing in different directions. 

 

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But look at that access! Plus, Magnificent Rustbucket had kindly sent me the workshop manual pages which suggested no hilarious surprises. WCPGW? Forget the garage. I'm allowing 12 hours for this and getting stuck right in.

 

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So I'm sorry for this super boring update, but the old rack came out easily, the new rack went in easily and it seems to work perfectly. It'll need an alignment, of course, but that's to be expected. Took me about two and a half hours in total. 

 

So with that done, I'm going to go and book it in for an MOT.


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 12:50 PM

Dull, dull, dull.

 

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 12:52 PM

Yawn...


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 12:59 PM

If that were me, I'd still be trying to sort which is left and which is right


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 01:31 PM

Test booked for Friday. Used Siri to put the appointment in my calendar while cycling and it phoned Minot International Airport in North Dakota (airport code MOT). 


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 02:51 PM

What did the airport say?

And what does "International" mean?

That there are flights to and fro South Dakota?

Or even - gulp - Montana?


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:31 PM

What did the airport say?

And what does "International" mean?

That there are flights to and fro South Dakota?

Or even - gulp - Montana?

 

According to Minot's website, they are called International because they have an international customs desk.  They don't have any international flights, though.  Somebody in North Dakota has a pretty cushy job, methinks.

 

 

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 05:14 PM

I'm sure everyone who's read my Rover thread is familiar with what happens when I attempt a simple 'replace component' job. I decide it'll take an hour, start at 5pm, park the car where it cannot be left if I immobilise it, immobilise it, fuck up the job so hard it causes a stock market crash then finish at 2am a shattered nervous wreck. 

 

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So when this arrived this morning I was conflicted. Should I take it to a garage and ask them to fit it? It would be the most sensible thing, since I can't even push the car off the drive if both the front wheels are pointing in different directions. 

 

attachicon.gifjag-rack2.jpg

 

But look at that access! Plus, Magnificent Rustbucket had kindly sent me the workshop manual pages which suggested no hilarious surprises. WCPGW? Forget the garage. I'm allowing 12 hours for this and getting stuck right in.

 

attachicon.gifjag-rack3.jpg

 

So I'm sorry for this super boring update, but the old rack came out easily, the new rack went in easily and it seems to work perfectly. It'll need an alignment, of course, but that's to be expected. Took me about two and a half hours in total. 

 

So with that done, I'm going to go and book it in for an MOT.

 

 

I have found my XJ40 to be an easy car to work on. I am glad it went well and the old beast will be back on the road in no time! :D


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:06 AM

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 05:37 PM

The usual pre MOT thing, the rear foglight does not work. Damn foglights hanging under bumpers. They never work. 

 

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The nearside one works, but I could not for the life of me get the offside one (the only mandatory one) to work. There was voltage at the connectors, and the bulb holder was clean and worked when connected to a battery. But together? Nothing. 

 

Whatever, I've come down with a brutal cold (the fourth this year, what happened to my immune system?) and I'm not in the mood for this. So I've just run wires from the working one to the broken one. 

 

If you include the trip to buy wire and the time spent holding the bulb holder and saying "why? why?" I probably spent longer on this than I did doing the steering rack. 


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 01:10 PM

No update can be an update, too...

 

Come on, show us the failure sheet of much hilarity.


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 01:36 PM

It did fail, but unfortunately there's no comedy multi-page failure sheet. It failed on a tiny hole in the sill and a bit of play in the rear wheel bearings. We couldn't find out if they're adjustable or not, but I suspect not. 

 

Advisories: Play in the gearbox mount was also advised because the tester wasn't sure if that was by design or not, and admitted the advisory was good old fashioned arse-covering. 

 

He commented that overall the car is very good. 


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 01:52 PM

Yes, they can be adjusted very easily.

How much will the sill welding be?

 

The tester's and my perception of the car differ significantly.


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1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 02:40 PM

I would sort of buy this but have two rusty Jags already. OK, one rusty Jag, and one non rusty Jag with potentially rusty Fordy bits. I have promised my wife I will not buy any more vehicles, and these days I aim to keep marital promises.


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 02:42 PM

One in one out may work. I aim to sell my SD1 soon.

Roffle for that would be about sixty to seventy quid a pop, so not here, probz.
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Posted 05 May 2017 - 02:42 PM

Mr Conelrad might keep it!


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 02:47 PM

I'm not too unsure whether Granada pick uppage couldn't be combined with Shaggedyouare drop offage?


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1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 02:59 PM

Yes, they can be adjusted very easily.


By which method? I think they need to be replaced.

How much will the sill welding be?


It's smaller than a 5p coin, I can do it.

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 07:00 PM

By glueing a 5p in the hole?
Good result though I know the later xj is meant to have some play in the wheel bearings as mine failed on it at my local place. I took it to a jag specialist to get the work done and they got it passed without any work (honest garage).
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I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 07:36 PM

Good result though I know the later xj is meant to have some play in the wheel bearings as mine failed on it at my local place. I took it to a jag specialist to get the work done and they got it passed without any work (honest garage).


hmm... the play is certainly incredibly slight. There's no grinding noises when the wheels are turned, just the tiniest tiniest slither of movement if the wheels are grabbed and moved north/south.

It's booked into the garage again on Wednesday, is it worth me challenging this fail?

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 08:12 PM

This was 1999 X308 XJR I'm not sure if it's the same setup as on yours. The guy who takes my cars in for mot's has negotiated a few passes for me in the past by convincing them various bits of play was meant to be like that.


I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 08:48 PM

I am sure it is the same setup, so I will have a look in the workshop manual tomorrow to see if the acceptable amount of play is defined there. I do have a vague recollection of a poster on xj40.com having acceptable play fail an MOT some years ago and successfully challenging it.


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 09:03 PM

Remove split pin, tighten the nut to 140 lb-ft, back off to the nearest hole, insert new split pin, hope for the best.

The end float of the axle/bearing assembly should be .002" preload to .002" float.

I want to see how a MoT inspector measures this.

Everything else would be his personal opinion, which is entirely irrelevant.


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Posted 06 May 2017 - 12:19 AM

Remove split pin, tighten the nut to 140 lb-ft, back off to the nearest hole, insert new split pin, hope for the best.
The end float of the axle/bearing assembly should be .002" preload to .002" float.
I want to see how a MoT inspector measures this.
Everything else would be his personal opinion, which is entirely irrelevant.


It does not have holes or split pins. There is a nut alone.

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I am sceptical about it being wheel bearings. There's only a minute touch of play when the wheel is rocked up and down, absolutely zero when rocked left to right, the 'play' in both wheels feels completely identical.

I don't have any issue with getting the wheel bearings replaced if they need to be replaced. But I also don't want to spend a couple hundred pounds having them done only to find there wasn't anything wrong with them and the wheels still have this 'play'.

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 11:59 AM

Challenge the tester.


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1970 Rover P6 V8........................................................white in colour
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1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 10 May 2017 - 04:10 PM

whats up guys

 

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 04:18 PM

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 04:41 PM

Finally.

Was about time.

 

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1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

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1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint





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