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Fun with Fronterrors or Gear driven oil pump moments


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#1 OFFLINE   red5

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:39 PM

So I, as some of you are aware by now, have a penchant for Frontera A models. If you don't - shame on you, this place etc.

 

 I have one of Vauxhalls finest rebadged Isuzu 4x4 - assembled in Luton with a Turbo-charged Opel (CF-type) diesel...

 

 

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As usual lack of regular oil changes has led to this - 

 

 

 

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So I located one of these. From a friendly Opel dealer. For a lot.

 

 

 

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#2 OFFLINE   tooSavvy

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:05 PM

So I, as some of you are aware by now, have a penchant for Frontera A models. If you don't - shame on you, this place etc.
 
 I have one of Vauxhalls finest rebadged Isuzu 4x4 - assembled in Luton with a Turbo-charged Opel (CF-type) diesel...
 
 
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As usual lack of regular oil changes has led to this - 
 
 
 
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So I located one of these. From a friendly Opel dealer. For a lot.
 
 
 
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:08 PM

how much was the cog?



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:10 PM

What's that 2.3 diesel like? I've heard they're fairly terrible but I like rubbish old diesels.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:28 PM

how much was the cog?

 

£42.00 + Vat 

 

Not bad I guess for a 22 year old part/last produced engine.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:31 PM

What's that 2.3 diesel like? I've heard they're fairly terrible but I like rubbish old diesels.

 

I love them - glacier-like would describe them to most people but a well (properly!) set up one is a decent drive. Lots of horror stories but all those CF owners can't be wrong. Oh, wait....

 

Slog on all day. Very understressed in standard-ish trim. Just watch oil pump wear if servicing is neglected....:-D


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:36 PM

Hold tight hold tight...

 

 

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Oil pump end cover - 6 hex screws holding it on to housing.

 

The large 'bolt' is end of oil pressure relief valve.

 

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:45 PM

Slacken 6 hex screws and remove  - remember to miss oil drainer and watch  (with slight horror/air of resignation) oil make it's way inexorably up (down) your arm....

 

Both driver and driven gears will slide down their respective oily shafts as you remove end cover. 

 

 

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Yay.

Splined/toothed shaft is driven via injection pump/crank gear. There is some wear but even I draw the line. 

 

Sometimes.

 

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:51 PM

No oily armpit for me today. A little part of me was disappointed...

 

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Some light cleaning of housing before cover/leaking oil prv attended to - not that I didn't resealed it properly before. Honest. :-)

 

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Then on to cover - gently held in vice for old gasket removal, prv remove and reseal.

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:07 PM

Yes, it's a long spring that really doesn't want to be compressed whilst attempting to refit retainer with oily hands. At all.

Apply a constant pressure with twisting action and swearage. Retrieve spring. Repeat.

 

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Insert picture of perfectly formed Vx grey sealer gasket here. Whoops.

Refit cover while holding new /old pump gears in place without disturbing 'gasket'. 

Refit all six hex screws without dropping any on your head/in drainer or watching them roll away.

 

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Torque (wiv and actual tool an' everyfin') and wait appropriate amount of time (12 hours) before starting. Or 45 min because I need to load workshop.

Check for leaks and oil pressure - none yet and some. :-)

 

Upcoming - 

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:18 PM

I'm surprised the steel gears wear before the housing , nice to see someone bothering though . Quite a frontera fan on the qt

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:28 PM

The end case wears. Gears usually wear due to lack of oil changes. 4500 miles on mineral is the way forward.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 07:58 PM

Well all looks very easy from the pics which must mean it's actually a total bastard when you try to do it yourself.

Is this the same pump on the petrol engines?

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:43 PM

I am impressed! I remember them well when new, being regarded as a bit of a lash-up; and only a handful of years ago I looked at buying a similar one to yours, and the owner was complaining about parts problems.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:49 PM

Glad to see you've still got this. It was a bit of an arse clenching drive from Hampshire when I drove it back, all that overheating I've got some pics of it with an RAC van. Does it still try and overheat under pressure?
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 09:20 PM

Nope. New rad and thermostat fixed it. Rad was 3/4 blocked by baked mud.

 

Top hose was a bit leaky but fixed as well.


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