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The old chod we bought when we were young vs. the old chod young people buy today


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#31 OFFLINE   flat4alfa

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:04 PM

Citroen Dyane 6 [11] / no idea what the equivalent would be now.

 

Austin Metro Red Hot [2] / what would they be driving now? Korean tin?

 

Morris Minor [24] / can't think of an equivalent for these either

 

Hows about:

 

(PSA) Citroen Pluriel

 

(SAIC) MG3 (90th anniversary Limited Edition)

 

(SAIC) FAW-VW Citi Golf



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:14 PM

My cars always seem to be around 10 years old but somehow worthless, It's rare for me to spend more than a couple of hundred on a runabout. - I started in 1989 with a 1981 cortina - 8 years old but worthless because it needed a front cam seal doing.

 

Next up was a 1979 escort which turned out to be made of isopon and cardboard, then a 1980 capri that wasn't too bad until I understeered it into a lamppost.

 

Another escort followed, that one lost all compression in the west end of newcastle and was on fire when I went back for it.

 

The obvious thing to do then was to buy a 7 year old talbot horizon. This earns the title "worst car ever" but at least someone stole it and set it on fire for me.

 

10 year old mini next - predictably rotten, it had poor brakes, a tired engine and comical electrics that liked to catch fire.

 

After the mini was another mini, but brand new and on motability because the wife said so. It was still a shitheap, and someone stole it.

 

Back to the snotters, in 1995 I got a 1984 montego estate for £100 from the sales which did a 2 year stint and was actually a really nice car despite being stopped by armed police once because it used to belong to a gang of gunrunners who had then vanished. I didn't blame the car, it did well considering. Bottom end of engine killed it in the end so I got an audi sometime in '98

 

Not on finance, a 1986 80CL from the sales (£80, running like a dog) changed the rubber carb mount for a new not split one and drove it until it died (2001)

 

Current car is a 2003 focus.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:38 PM

A £200 1977 Fiat 131 Mirafiori 1300L in 1988

 

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Fiat lineage suggests 2006 Fiat Linea (pun not intended) as it's a saloon in same sector..

 

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...but can't buy one of those here even though I might like one, so I'll have settle for nearest equivalent of a £500 2006 Fiat Stilo 1.4, thanks

 

 

Edit:  I've only gone and found one

https://www.gumtree....wner/1217055807

86_1.jpg  £590, Reading

 

The main downside of that Stilo is it's not anywhere near as rusty as my Mirafiori.

 

 

 

It was on an 'any driver' insurance policy my Dad somehow picked up off a side street independent broker, the like of which would be unheard of today.  The policy that is.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:41 PM

My first car in '84 was a '78 one lady owner Chevette.

I paid £1,000 @ £93 per month for a year.

My first bank loan!


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:07 PM

Free Austin A40 Farina from 1960; this was in 78, not long after I passed my test.  Disregarding the price, today's equivalent would be a 1999 Rover 25 bubble.  Yeah, 18-year-olds are killing each other to get into one of those!

 

Note that after beginning with an 18-year-old car, I now have a fleet of four, starting at 9 years old, then 17, 28 and 44, and except for the 44-year-old, all seem like modern cars to me!  That's progress for ya!  (And the oldest is easily my favourite...)


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:12 PM

The next car was a £880 1979 Opel Manta 1.9 SR, near as damn it like this:

 

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According to the Wiki lineage list it would today be a 2007 Opel Astra GTC, which to me is an almost new car, driven about (rudely) by 'sports boys' in my town. Nothing changed there then.  

 

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The equivalent money would be £2130

 

The car itself was a lemon and cost plenty.  Thinking about it, because of it, I haven't had a GM car since!


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:40 PM

The next car was a 1982 Renault Fuego 1.6TL bought off a neighbour as it was spare, and I wanted rid of the Manta as it was so desperately out of fashion (I was getting bullied off the road, regularly).  A favour to me it was, at £200.  My first FWD motor.  Comfy too, although rear seat passengers didn't agree.

 

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Over six months the dash became progressively like a Christmas tree. In the end it blew its head gasket as bottom house went - water temp dial and light had packed-in weeks before, so didn't know about it ...until it started pinking like mad.

 

Didn't touch Renaults again until the Avantime in 2015.  That also killed itself in an uncannily similar way.  Never again, etc.

 

 

Today's lineage equivalent would be a £410 Laguna Coupé.  Not really possible to fetch one for that money (but give it a few months...)

 

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This one is £4750 and the oldest I could find.  Today's used Renault values are worth 10 times what they were back then, shocker!   :shock:



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:01 PM

First car, 1972, was a 1958 mk2 consul bought for £30. Bench seats,( some fun was had on those, nudge x2,) three speed column change, (a bit dire). Engine went bang 4 months later. Probably coz I thrashed it, a bit.

Don't know what the equivalent would be today. Mondeo ish ? 


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:22 PM

Hows about:
 
(PSA) Citroen Pluriel
 
(SAIC) MG3 (90th anniversary Limited Edition)
 
(SAIC) FAW-VW Citi Golf


I get where you're coming from, but I'm trying to work out what other vehicles the stereotypical buyers of the cars would have migrated to. For example, giffers in the 1980s would have bought SD3 Rovers ("Richard!"). In the 1990s they possibly bought R8 Rovers, but in the 2000s giffers went all Honda Jazz.

I'm kind of thinking that the Metro buyer of the 1980s would be snapping up mega-long warranty S. Korean appliances as they didn't exactly buy Roverised Indicas.

No idea what vegetarian arty hippies are driving now. :D

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:33 PM

No idea what vegetarian arty hippies are driving now. :D


They probably don't drive (my arty cousin doesn't and nor do her friends), although I reckon they may push to a Prius if there was no choice.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:56 PM

Free Austin A40 Farina from 1960; this was in 78, not long after I passed my test.  Disregarding the price, today's equivalent would be a 1999 Rover 25 bubble.  Yeah, 18-year-olds are killing each other to get into one of those!

 

Note that after beginning with an 18-year-old car, I now have a fleet of four, starting at 9 years old, then 17, 28 and 44, and except for the 44-year-old, all seem like modern cars to me!  That's progress for ya!  (And the oldest is easily my favourite...)

 

Now imagine you would have bought a 44 year old car in 1978. And if it would also have been a Cadillac, it'd be a V16!


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1967 Renault 16 TL..................................................with many a pedal

1970 Rover P6 V8........................................................white in colour
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:03 PM

1972, got married, passed motorcycle test, wife wanted a heater, part exchanged the CZ175 and bought a 1967 Reliant Regal 3-25.  The windscreen sticker said £325: 3 years HP available.  Hire purchase it was then 'cos I had no actual money. The Regal was only 5 years and 36,000 miles old but had a leaking head gasket ('cured' by having a Duckhams gallon can as a radiator reservoir, giving me a range of about 200 miles on coolant) and a rusty chassis ('cured' by pop riveting bits of tin cut from a Duckhams oil can and Aruldite to hide the rivets).  When the Regal burnt out on the way to work in 1975, I used the insurance settlement to put a deposit on a brand new Citroen 2cv6 and had 5 lessons in a Triumph Toledo to enable a first time pass just a week before the 2cv was ready to pick up.  Friends generally had Morris Minor/1000s or Austin A30/35s.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:49 PM

First Car (whilst still at school) was a mk4 spitfire which was fecked. It was 10 years old but a proper ringer in almost every way. - I got hold of all previous reg documents and it had started out as a white 1500, registered 2 months before launch, but the chassis and tub was magenta, (and had always been) and the doors, bootlid, roof, and bonnet were originally yellow. and it had a 1300 engine.  It was supposed to be just 10 years old but had had 8 owners Cost me £375 and was sold 6 months later for £375 by my mum.

 

The seats may have been white.

 

The equivalent would be an MGF, registered as a TF, with everything fucked and a dodgy MOT

 

Second car was a mini 1000 1974, which had once been yellow and was purple. Cost £350 and lasted a year. Sold for scrap.  Equivalent would be a knacked corsa b from Cavcraft.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:47 PM

I have been thinking about this recently.

 

My first car was a 8 year old Renault 5TL in yellow/great hammerite. It was one of the last of the phase one models and had 5 gears and a sunroof (leaked), my friends were drooling over basic Fiesta's! It was sadly knackered, the engine blew a headgasket and then the crankshaft, it was part exchanged at a bomb site garage for an even more horrific mark 1 Fiesta.

 

I have been thinking about buying a cheap Clio and seeing if I get the same experience!


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 10:45 AM

I drive a Mondeo, I'm guessing by comparison we're we still in the 1980s it'd be a Granada given the Focus isn't much different in size to a Cortina etc?
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:04 PM

When I was young I bought the cheapest car I could, a £30 popular; no-one wanted them back then. If I was young now the world would be my oyster as there is functioning shite around that is pro-rata even cheaper than 50's shite was in the '70's.
The message to young bucks is that no-one is admiring the 14 plater you're busting your arse to keep up payments on. If I was doing it all over again I'd do it all over a £500 2 door disco.
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:18 PM

My first car was a 1984 Ford Fiesta in 1995. So, today, that'd leave me with one this hideous shit heaps. I'd still rather have a Mk2 Fezza...

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In 2002, my daily driver was a Peugeot 306 turbo diesel dating from 1997 (and my 2CV). In 2017, my daily drivers are a Honda S-MX and a Vauxhall Omega, both dating from 1997 (and my 2CV). I definitely seem to be trying to avoid progress...


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:16 PM

When I passed my test in 2002 I bought a 1974 Capri. I've still got that car now.
I'm also still buying cars from that sort of age, 60's, 70's and 80's stuff is what I've always liked and since I bought that Capri nothing's changed for me.
In fact the newest car I've owned and kept for any length of time was a 91 Volvo 340!
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:42 PM

What does my head in nowadays is that some cars that I could have bought new are now classics.

 

That is a rather disturbing thought.

The few cars I actually bought new are indeed classics now - if you can even find them.


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1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:56 PM

I still like to consider myself young and I'm buying the chod old people bought when they were young

Or something like that. The journey to becoming my dad is a radio retune away from complete.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:27 PM

Other shite I had and what it would translate to:

 

 

1978 Chevrolet Blazer in 1991                     2004 Chevrolet Tahoe

1978 Chevrolet Caprice Classic in 1992      2003 Chevrolet Impala

1973 Chrysler Newport in 1993                    1997 Chrysler Concorde

1974 Citroen GS in 1994                             1997 Citroen Xsara

1980 Audi 100 5E in 1995                            2002 Audi A6

1969 Renault 4L in 1996                             1991 Renault 4 GTL - Wahey!

1969 Opel Kapitän in 1996                          1991 Opel Senator        

1993 Buick Park Avenue in 1997                 2013 Buick LaCrosse

1984 Toyota Carina II in 1998                      2003 Toyota Avensis

 

And all the Granadas I had in the late 90s - early 00s would be Mondeos, right?


1967 Renault 16 TL..................................................with many a pedal

1970 Rover P6 V8........................................................white in colour
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:35 PM

Slightly more than ten years ago I bought a 16 year old Fiesta. This is what a 16 year old Fiesta looks like now:

 

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Mine cost me £360 (delivered to my door, because I always was a lazy shit), and there's a couple of 2001 models on eBay in similar condition for about £450. So that's about the same. The insurance cost me £62 a month. So I ran a quote for myself, in the same circumstances, but today.

 

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Hmm. So I have to amend my post:

 

Slightly more than ten years ago I bought a 16 year old Fiesta. Today, I wouldn't have a car at all because the monthly insurance instalment increased by 2,469% during that time. 

 

(as an aside, how many customers do this lot have?

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:13 PM

It's laughable how many kids these days afford a car. They must spend every penny keeping a crappy Citroen C1 on the road. Can't see how they have any money left to go out drinking and having a laugh with your mates. When I was 18 I spent 70% of my income going out getting pissed and having a good time. I'm 30 now but I've no regrets, I'm happy to sit in now with a few tins, done the going out bit.

What will today's generation have to look back on? Years spent sat in their room paying £250 a month to insure a Citroen C1. Tragic.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:19 PM

What will today's generation have to look back on? Years spent sat in their room paying £250 a month to insure a Citroen C1. Tragic.

 

The overwhelming majority of them doesn't go out, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't shag and most of all, doesn't drive.

If one of them dares to do just one of the above, he gets immediately ostracised, so they all think trice before they decide better not to do it.


1967 Renault 16 TL..................................................with many a pedal

1970 Rover P6 V8........................................................white in colour
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:43 PM

I think you are right. Bearing in mind a lot are in Apprenticeships doing something like admin. From what I recall you did apprenticeships in a trade, not working in a call centre. It's another excuse to pay them pennies.
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:51 PM

I think you are right. Bearing in mind a lot are in Apprenticeships doing something like admin. From what I recall you did apprenticeships in a trade, not working in a call centre. It's another excuse to pay them pennies.


The apprentice I work with (19, and in a trade) has a W reg Polo 1.4 and almost all his monthly income goes on the insurance! He does go out still too but he pays for it. He can only do about half a month on his wages before going into his overdraft. I think he said he's about £800 overdrawn this month and pay day is another week off yet. I'm glad I'm not his age anymore, it sounds fucking grim!
Still, at least he saw sense and bought an oldish car instead of like all his mates and got mummy and daddy to get them a new midgets car on lease.
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:09 PM

So nothing changed with apprentices.

When I was an apprentice, it was the high life until about the tenth, then Zündapp scooter and pasta until the end of the Month.

Still managed to chain smoke Gauloises sans filtre at two Marks fifty a pack, though.

 

Okay, if it wouldn't have had to be a '60 Buick convertible, I probably could have deferred scooter use until the 15th or so.

So I finally caved in and bought the Jag MKX to save some petrol. We soon found out, that one tank holds a gallon less than the other,

which repeatedly caused bickers about who had to pay for which tankfill when a ride was shared. It also needed more petrol than the

Buick, so I didn't have it for long.

 

However, there were months when these problems appeared to be rather distant after I was at the trotting track.

Then there were months, when they became more pronounced, of course.


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1967 Renault 16 TL..................................................with many a pedal

1970 Rover P6 V8........................................................white in colour
1971 Mercedes 280SE............................................................fucked
1979 Mobylette AV89............................................................running

1985 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X......................................The Beast Estate
1991 Jaguar 4.0 Sovereign.........................with fresh MoT and fucked wings
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate...................................almost mint


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:21 PM

The apprentice I work with (19, and in a trade) has a W reg Polo 1.4 and almost all his monthly income goes on the insurance! He does go out still too but he pays for it. He can only do about half a month on his wages before going into his overdraft. I think he said he's about £800 overdrawn this month and pay day is another week off yet. I'm glad I'm not his age anymore, it sounds fucking grim!
Still, at least he saw sense and bought an oldish car instead of like all his mates and got mummy and daddy to get them a new midgets car on lease.


Jesus that's grim. I could understand being in the financial shit when you've got kids, house, divorce etc...

Who on earth though has given him an £800 overdraft?
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:16 PM

Jesus that's grim. I could understand being in the financial shit when you've got kids, house, divorce etc...
Who on earth though has given him an £800 overdraft?


Fuck only knows!
He's terrible with money though. I know all kids want to do stuff when they leave school and get some freedom but he's got a credit card too (dangerous) and went out to McDonald's the day he got it and payed for all his mates 'Maccy D's' on his credit card! He's done the same in the pub before too.
I think some people that age just don't understand the value of money tbh.

Im 32 and I've only ever gone overdrawn (by about £50) once!
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:17 PM

First car was a Mini City e in Champagne Beige.

It was brilliant and awful all at the same time.

 

With regards to the apprentice stuff, I was an apprentice and I saved up and bought the car when I could afford the insurance. 

This was 27 years ago and I actually think it is about the same price if you include inflation to pay for insurance.

Also there were no iphones that everyone had to have!


1968 Morris Minor 1000

1957 Morris Minor 1000

1968 Land Rover 

1985 Reliant Scimitar SS1

1998 Volvo 940

1972 Triumph Toledo

1986 Talbot Express Camper





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