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French Shite 205 GTi - Sold and replacement collectioned - Warning Modern content.


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#31 OFFLINE   strangeangel

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:51 PM

Ace car, the Barry rear light thing needs to die though.
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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:57 PM

This is an ace project, and nice to see you save it before it got any worse and turned into parts for more pampered ones.

My fantasy 205gti (and with the cost of them a fantasy one is all I'll ever have) would not have some red plastic tat on the boot. Whether I'd remove it from a car that had one would need more thinking about.
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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:27 PM

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....completely fucked paintwork.......

 

 

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"That's not completely fucked paintwork...."

 

 

This:

 

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Is completely fucked grey 1990 1.9 GTi paintwork:

 

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Here's mine (well, technically Mrs_Jon's but it's been replaced by a Clio 172), which we've had for 6 years, buying it for about £900. It's a Japanese import, as are quite a few NZ 205 GTis and they seem to come in two specs, either a detuned 1.9 (105bhp - and sometimes an auto!) or a European spec, like ours. Never really missed a beat but general upkeep is key, as is the utilisation of UK visitors' baggage allowance, for cut price parts. The radiator came this way a few months back when my parents came out last and the dash top did the same in 2013, courtesy of the wonderful Cleland 205 Spares Centre.

 

That orange abomination was a crash damaged 1985 UK import, picked up to help keep the 205 and my Visa GTI ticking over and so far, the spares stash has been pretty fruitful. I do enjoy driving the 205 but must admit that the Visa probably pips it slightly, for me at least. Which is why we still own both and also the Clio, I suppose.

 

That said, it's currently out on long term loan with my cousin, since he's had lots of family members over recently. He's loving it, is giving it plenty of attention and I'll be looking forward to having it back in the fold at some point, so win win all round.

 

 

Top Tip: photograph it after some rainfall and it will look much better:

 

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:19 PM

Feeling like the tailblazer/trailblazer/red reflective thingy is a bit divisive...

It will be staying for now, its item number 374 on the list and we're at about number 8

I definitely prefer the cleaner look of the standard back end though

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:00 PM

Against most of the others - that reflective abortion needs burning, I hated them back in the day when they were fashionable for about a fortnight, and I hate them more now. Would not have one on my GTi but each to their own. 


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:04 PM

I was never a fan of the trailblazer but they were very popular. A Genuine Peugeot accessory, you saw almost as many with one as without.
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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:09 PM

Not entirely surprisingly the MOT was a negative, but the failure list isn't too catastrophic

For the first time ever the MOT tester did actually say 'it looks like a good one' and has no rust, just a few perishable items in need of replacement, so that gave me a little boost....


Reason(s) for failure
offside Headlamp aim beam image obviously incorrect Due to reflector. (1.8.A.1b)
offside rear Shock absorber has an excessively worn bush Lower bush. (2.7.4)
offside Front constant velocity joint gaiter damaged to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc Outer gaiter split. (2.5.C.1a)
offside front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint dust cover excessively damaged so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.4.G.2)
offside front lower Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases Rear box to centre pipe joint. (7.1.2)
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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:49 PM

Not bad at all. That should be back on the road in no time!



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:38 PM

I hit "Like" on your fail sheet but only because that looks pretty good for one of these. I dare say the real work will start once it's back on the road though...



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:08 PM

If you do decide to bin the tailblazer, please bin it onto the back of mine. I quite like them but not enough to spend the £100+ that NOS ones go for.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

That fail sheet's not bad at all, good work!



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:08 PM

A breakdown of the failure items after inspection today, all legit fails and luckily as they're on the same side, most of the parts have to be removed together anyway.

offside Headlamp aim beam image obviously incorrect Due to reflector. (1.8.A.1b)

Kinda knew about this, both headlights are a bit ropey, but the drivers side especially all the reflective stuff has come off the...err..reflector. Just going to get a pair of new ones from evilbay, £80

offside rear Shock absorber has an excessively worn bush Lower bush. (2.7.4)

This is annoying because it doesn't appear that you can buy this bush and it only comes on new shocks, so about £60 for a pair of rear shocks

offside Front constant velocity joint gaiter damaged to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc Outer gaiter split. (2.5.C.1a)

Already have the front end stripped down and the drive shaft out, new boot here in the morning. £10

offside front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint dust cover excessively damaged so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.4.G.2)

A new one of these was already in the boot from the previous owner £FREE

offside front lower Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Also slightly annoying that you can't replace the balljoijt and have to replace the whole lower arm £80+VAT from a local motor factor, will be here in the morning along with the boot

Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases Rear box to centre pipe joint. (7.1.2)

Not really sure what he's on about here, at worst it was minor, had the joint apart and retightened it up, looks fine to me now.

So all in not too bad, it's just delivery on parts that will be the delaying factor, should make the 10 day partial retest deadline and aim to tax it and be legal the 1st march, a month later than originally intended, but that's quite good for us. Then we can get onto solving the reason why it's almost unriveable..
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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:48 PM

If you do decide to bin the tailblazer, please bin it onto the back of mine. I quite like them but not enough to spend the £100+ that NOS ones go for.


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Seriously? Folk actually pay a ton for these awful things? Wow. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:45 PM

Not too bad in terms of MOT items, as you say all easy enough to sort.

Were the emissions tested with the exhaust leaking though?

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:04 PM

I bought a load of booty for mine recently - front and rear shocks and headlamps among them. The shocks I bought from Micks Garage when there was a 25% sale on and I can't remember the price but they post internationally for nowt when you spend large, hence why they were very competitive in my situation.

 

The headlamps also came as the relief package in my parents hold luggage (along with the radiator) and IIRC, they were bought from Amazon from a French based seller for less than £25 a pop, delivered to the UK. I remember having to cross reference part numbers or something as one didn't come up in an official search for 205 bits but thankfully the gamble paid off and my folks could check them before bringing them out.

 

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:51 AM

Cheers for the heads up, just checked out Micks Garage and he doesn't seem to stock the parts we need anyway

Right now it's a race against time to get it in for retest before the 10 working day deadline, otherwise any money we save on parts is likely gone in paying for a full retest

Always interested in possible cheap parts suppliers for the future tho

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:59 AM

I bought a load of booty for mine recently - front and rear shocks and headlamps among them. The shocks I bought from Micks Garage when there was a 25% sale on and I can't remember the price but they post internationally for nowt when you spend large, hence why they were very competitive in my situation.

 

The headlamps also came as the relief package in my parents hold luggage (along with the radiator) and IIRC, they were bought from Amazon from a French based seller for less than £25 a pop, delivered to the UK. I remember having to cross reference part numbers or something as one didn't come up in an official search for 205 bits but thankfully the gamble paid off and my folks could check them before bringing them out.

 

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If the headlamps came from France - are you sure they're dipping the right way? Are they LHD or RHD set up?



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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:25 PM

Well, I've had a right bollock ache of a week, of a month if I'm honest and my patience is at an all time low, anything and everything seems to be getting right on my tits just lately, however despite this, in the last week, mostly after work in the cold and dark we have achieved

2 x new headlights fitted
1 x new lower arm fitted
1 x new CV boot fitted
2 x new rear shocks fitted
1 x new drop link fitted

The only grey area really is the exhaust, we've reseated the joint best we can and there is no way it could be described as having a 'major leak of exhaust gas' anymore, but it's not 100%, probably 97%...

So we'll see how the retest goes tomorrow, oh and for fans of the 'tailblazer' sorry but a standard rear boot panel has been acquired and is currently winging its way to us

I really ought to start taking pictures as I work to make these posts more interesting
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 04:29 PM

MOT achievement status - unlocked

Now to find out why it runs like crap...
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 06:26 PM

MOT achievement status - unlocked

Now to find out why it runs like crap...

 

 

Good stuff!

 

Idle on these and low speed running was always a bit rough. I suggest a service (if you haven' already) and a good kicking down some back roads...


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 06:58 PM

It's under load where the problem is, it just dies and you can't drive it much above 1/3 throttle, although once it did actually run almost right so I'm thinking it's some sort of dodgy connection ignition side. I've only driven it to and from MOT appointments so I'll tax it on Wednesday and when it's all legit take it for an Italian tune up and see where we're at.

Idle and low speed running is actually good, idle is a tad high (about 1300-1400rpm) but I seem to remember back in the day that "they all do that sir"

Feels good getting the MOT tho, still a way to go but the pressure is off now

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:03 PM

Well, the day has finally arrived that it is all legal, so I waited impatiently at work for home time, had some dinner and broke out the keys. I was intending to do pez station shots and dash at night and all that other exciting stuff, but the reality was more 'let's get the fuck home before I'm stuck on the side of the road'

I always knew it had serious running problems but kinda hoped they might just go away, and it has shown glimmers of hope on MOT runs that it might clear itself out with a bit of a run, but no.

Best way I can describe it is severe kangarooing, it revs up fine standing still, go anywhere near the throttle on the move and it jerks violently. It kind of clears if you either feather the throttle ever so gently or if you stomp it to the floor and get it above 3500rpm it will pull fairly (but not totally) cleanly to the red line, get it below 3000 on part or full throttle and it bogs down and dies.

It feels like ignition related to me, but I couldn't swear to that, not really sure what to start with, probably some basic electrical fault finding, make sure everything is getting a good solid voltage, clean up some dodgy looking earth connections, check the rotor arm, dizzy cap, coil etc...then it'll be onto replacing parts on a best guess basis I suppose.

Not quite what I was hoping for, but...on rare occasions it has briefly run almost perfectly, so it can't be anything too serious, right guys? Guys?

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:13 PM

Well, the day has finally arrived that it is all legal, so I waited impatiently at work for home time, had some dinner and broke out the keys. I was intending to do pez station shots and dash at night and all that other exciting stuff, but the reality was more 'let's get the fuck home before I'm stuck on the side of the road'

I always knew it had serious running problems but kinda hoped they might just go away, and it has shown glimmers of hope on MOT runs that it might clear itself out with a bit of a run, but no.

Best way I can describe it is severe kangarooing, it revs up fine standing still, go anywhere near the throttle on the move and it jerks violently. It kind of clears if you either feather the throttle ever so gently or if you stomp it to the floor and get it above 3500rpm it will pull fairly (but not totally) cleanly to the red line, get it below 3000 on part or full throttle and it bogs down and dies.

It feels like ignition related to me, but I couldn't swear to that, not really sure what to start with, probably some basic electrical fault finding, make sure everything is getting a good solid voltage, clean up some dodgy looking earth connections, check the rotor arm, dizzy cap, coil etc...then it'll be onto replacing parts on a best guess basis I suppose.

Not quite what I was hoping for, but...on rare occasions it has briefly run almost perfectly, so it can't be anything too serious, right guys? Guys?

I had a very similar problem with a 6N Polo, car would be very unhappy at anything over 10% throttle and would try to stall. Only happened when damp. It had a new rotor arm, dizzy cap, ignition leads, and spark plugs but still did it when the engine bay got damp. Got shot of it before I ever solved it completely.


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:16 PM

Fuel pump or rotor arm.

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:16 PM

French car. First thing I'd check is the earths. Secondly, anything that maybe affected by water/moisture ingress - especially with all the shit weather we're having at the moment.
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:21 PM

I had a very similar problem with a 6N Polo, car would be very unhappy at anything over 10% throttle and would try to stall. Only happened when damp. It had a new rotor arm, dizzy cap, ignition leads, and spark plugs but still did it when the engine bay got damp. Got shot of it before I ever solved it completely.


I was getting excited there until the last sentence lol

It was damp when we got it but it's been in a garage for the last 6 weeks. I am inclined to think dodgy earths though. Or maybe just hoping, because they're free..

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:23 PM

Never understood the love for these. Drove one back in the day & it was shite, I preferred the Orion I had at the time.

 

 

But it'll be earths, the french can't do electrics.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:28 PM

I had an Orion when these were current and wished I had a 205 GTi, there is every chance it'll be a short lived fantasy though and end up chopped in for some different old not to be met hero

My other thought was throttle position sensor, purely due to the way it seems to be very throttle position related, but I've never known one produce such dramatic running issues and it's not generally come up in the list of common issues.

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:39 PM

No idea what's wrong, but let me be horribly late to say TAILBLAZER WIN!


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:40 PM

I was getting excited there until the last sentence lol

It was damp when we got it but it's been in a garage for the last 6 weeks. I am inclined to think dodgy earths though. Or maybe just hoping, because they're free..

It was much better, don't get me wrong, that car had a load of other issues too. Seeing as they're service items anyway it's worth a go.


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