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French Shite 205 GTi - Merde Alors - MOT Phayel


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#31 OFFLINE   strangeangel

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:51 PM

Ace car, the Barry rear light thing needs to die though.
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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:57 PM

This is an ace project, and nice to see you save it before it got any worse and turned into parts for more pampered ones.

My fantasy 205gti (and with the cost of them a fantasy one is all I'll ever have) would not have some red plastic tat on the boot. Whether I'd remove it from a car that had one would need more thinking about.
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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:27 PM

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....completely fucked paintwork.......

 

 

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"That's not completely fucked paintwork...."

 

 

This:

 

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Is completely fucked grey 1990 1.9 GTi paintwork:

 

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Here's mine (well, technically Mrs_Jon's but it's been replaced by a Clio 172), which we've had for 6 years, buying it for about £900. It's a Japanese import, as are quite a few NZ 205 GTis and they seem to come in two specs, either a detuned 1.9 (105bhp - and sometimes an auto!) or a European spec, like ours. Never really missed a beat but general upkeep is key, as is the utilisation of UK visitors' baggage allowance, for cut price parts. The radiator came this way a few months back when my parents came out last and the dash top did the same in 2013, courtesy of the wonderful Cleland 205 Spares Centre.

 

That orange abomination was a crash damaged 1985 UK import, picked up to help keep the 205 and my Visa GTI ticking over and so far, the spares stash has been pretty fruitful. I do enjoy driving the 205 but must admit that the Visa probably pips it slightly, for me at least. Which is why we still own both and also the Clio, I suppose.

 

That said, it's currently out on long term loan with my cousin, since he's had lots of family members over recently. He's loving it, is giving it plenty of attention and I'll be looking forward to having it back in the fold at some point, so win win all round.

 

 

Top Tip: photograph it after some rainfall and it will look much better:

 

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:19 PM

Feeling like the tailblazer/trailblazer/red reflective thingy is a bit divisive...

It will be staying for now, its item number 374 on the list and we're at about number 8

I definitely prefer the cleaner look of the standard back end though

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:00 PM

Against most of the others - that reflective abortion needs burning, I hated them back in the day when they were fashionable for about a fortnight, and I hate them more now. Would not have one on my GTi but each to their own. 



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:04 PM

I was never a fan of the trailblazer but they were very popular. A Genuine Peugeot accessory, you saw almost as many with one as without.
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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:09 PM

Not entirely surprisingly the MOT was a negative, but the failure list isn't too catastrophic

For the first time ever the MOT tester did actually say 'it looks like a good one' and has no rust, just a few perishable items in need of replacement, so that gave me a little boost....


Reason(s) for failure
offside Headlamp aim beam image obviously incorrect Due to reflector. (1.8.A.1b)
offside rear Shock absorber has an excessively worn bush Lower bush. (2.7.4)
offside Front constant velocity joint gaiter damaged to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc Outer gaiter split. (2.5.C.1a)
offside front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint dust cover excessively damaged so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.4.G.2)
offside front lower Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases Rear box to centre pipe joint. (7.1.2)
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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:49 PM

Not bad at all. That should be back on the road in no time!


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:38 PM

I hit "Like" on your fail sheet but only because that looks pretty good for one of these. I dare say the real work will start once it's back on the road though...



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 05:08 PM

If you do decide to bin the tailblazer, please bin it onto the back of mine. I quite like them but not enough to spend the £100+ that NOS ones go for.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

That fail sheet's not bad at all, good work!



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:08 PM

A breakdown of the failure items after inspection today, all legit fails and luckily as they're on the same side, most of the parts have to be removed together anyway.

offside Headlamp aim beam image obviously incorrect Due to reflector. (1.8.A.1b)

Kinda knew about this, both headlights are a bit ropey, but the drivers side especially all the reflective stuff has come off the...err..reflector. Just going to get a pair of new ones from evilbay, £80

offside rear Shock absorber has an excessively worn bush Lower bush. (2.7.4)

This is annoying because it doesn't appear that you can buy this bush and it only comes on new shocks, so about £60 for a pair of rear shocks

offside Front constant velocity joint gaiter damaged to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc Outer gaiter split. (2.5.C.1a)

Already have the front end stripped down and the drive shaft out, new boot here in the morning. £10

offside front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint dust cover excessively damaged so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.4.G.2)

A new one of these was already in the boot from the previous owner £FREE

offside front lower Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Also slightly annoying that you can't replace the balljoijt and have to replace the whole lower arm £80+VAT from a local motor factor, will be here in the morning along with the boot

Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases Rear box to centre pipe joint. (7.1.2)

Not really sure what he's on about here, at worst it was minor, had the joint apart and retightened it up, looks fine to me now.

So all in not too bad, it's just delivery on parts that will be the delaying factor, should make the 10 day partial retest deadline and aim to tax it and be legal the 1st march, a month later than originally intended, but that's quite good for us. Then we can get onto solving the reason why it's almost unriveable..

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:48 PM

If you do decide to bin the tailblazer, please bin it onto the back of mine. I quite like them but not enough to spend the £100+ that NOS ones go for.


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Seriously? Folk actually pay a ton for these awful things? Wow. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:45 PM

Not too bad in terms of MOT items, as you say all easy enough to sort.

Were the emissions tested with the exhaust leaking though?

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:04 PM

I bought a load of booty for mine recently - front and rear shocks and headlamps among them. The shocks I bought from Micks Garage when there was a 25% sale on and I can't remember the price but they post internationally for nowt when you spend large, hence why they were very competitive in my situation.

 

The headlamps also came as the relief package in my parents hold luggage (along with the radiator) and IIRC, they were bought from Amazon from a French based seller for less than £25 a pop, delivered to the UK. I remember having to cross reference part numbers or something as one didn't come up in an official search for 205 bits but thankfully the gamble paid off and my folks could check them before bringing them out.

 

It may not save you a packet but every little helps. Actually, that's quite a nice phrase; perhaps I should copyright it.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:51 AM

Cheers for the heads up, just checked out Micks Garage and he doesn't seem to stock the parts we need anyway

Right now it's a race against time to get it in for retest before the 10 working day deadline, otherwise any money we save on parts is likely gone in paying for a full retest

Always interested in possible cheap parts suppliers for the future tho

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:59 AM

I bought a load of booty for mine recently - front and rear shocks and headlamps among them. The shocks I bought from Micks Garage when there was a 25% sale on and I can't remember the price but they post internationally for nowt when you spend large, hence why they were very competitive in my situation.

 

The headlamps also came as the relief package in my parents hold luggage (along with the radiator) and IIRC, they were bought from Amazon from a French based seller for less than £25 a pop, delivered to the UK. I remember having to cross reference part numbers or something as one didn't come up in an official search for 205 bits but thankfully the gamble paid off and my folks could check them before bringing them out.

 

It may not save you a packet but every little helps. Actually, that's quite a nice phrase; perhaps I should copyright it.

 

If the headlamps came from France - are you sure they're dipping the right way? Are they LHD or RHD set up?






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