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The £250 Zafira B - Yey electrical issues! Fixed!

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#481 OFFLINE   Hooli

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:09 PM

Just raffle it, lots of idiots* on here who'd queue up to buy tickets for a car they can't get into.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:19 PM

When the door actuator went on the 75 I had to remove the doorcard and use the linkage in the door to get it open. Could you get the door card off then do that?

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:20 PM

Just raffle it, lots of idiots* on here who'd queue up to buy tickets for a car they don’t want to get into.


True dat
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:24 PM

 

Plan C is to drive to town and call the AA, but what can they do?

 

Deliver it to my house after you sell it for £30?


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:25 PM

When the door actuator went on the 75 I had to remove the doorcard and use the linkage in the door to get it open. Could you get the door card off then do that?


No I've tried that, the deadlock is on, so I hear the mechanism moving, but no one is at home. Obv the bolts to remove said lock are only accessible with the door open!
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:26 PM

Just raffle it, lots of idiots* on here who'd queue up to buy tickets for a car they can't get into.


Lovely single seat motor car, utterly fucking loads of boot space if you don't mind only being able to get to it by folding the middle seats...
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:26 PM

Get the doors unlocked by whatever means and never lock them again...
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:29 PM

If all of this does not work, I am right out of ideas... Anyone local to myself in Thame have an Opcom?


Passing Bristol any time soon? You can borrow my Tech2.

Edit: I'm in Newbury this weekend, so won't be a million miles away from you.

However if the wires are broken to the module, there isn't too much a Tech2 can do if it can't talk to the lock.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:38 PM

Remove inner door panels - fiddly but do-able.

 

Repair wiring loom(s).

 

Win.

 

Tech2 or anything else can't talk to the door control units if they're not connected. It's very common on Astra H and Zafira B. Unsurprisingly as they're the same stuff in a different frock.

 

Do both rear doors 1st. Usually them.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:40 PM

red5 knows his fucking Vauxhalls probably even more so than Cavcraft (yeah I know) if you’re in any doubt
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:44 PM

Remove inner door panels - fiddly but do-able.

Repair wiring loom(s).

Win.

Tech2 or anything else can't talk to the door control units if they're not connected. It's very common on Astra H and Zafira B. Unsurprisingly as they're the same stuff in a different frock.

Do both rear doors 1st. Usually them.


I've almost certainly deffo done the rear passenger side now, the rear drivers side has never exhibited any odd behaviour so was leaving that alone for now. What would I have upset in the central locking mechanism to make it not actuate the deadlocks? The indicators flash when I use the fob and the button on the dash but there's no noise or unlocky stuff
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:47 PM

Iirc you can get a decent repair kit for £35 or so.


The people that do the repair kits (qed) keep listing them on the website but just refund you when you order one . Proper vaux kit is 100 quid .
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:52 PM

The people that do the repair kits (qed) keep listing them on the website but just refund you when you order one . Proper vaux kit is 100 quid .
Did an astra one last week

 

Yeah - I just tried. Last one I did I used Vx kit as well.

 

O/s has far less use (usually) on a family wagon. N/s/r door is usually first to go.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:57 PM

The people that do the repair kits (qed) keep listing them on the website but just refund you when you order one . Proper vaux kit is 100 quid .
Did an astra one last week


That's a shame as that's exactly what I will go for if the central locking starts working! Although now I've dragged the loom out into the car I can affect a proper repair by cutting the loom back nice and far nd soldering in new wire (probably all of the same colour...)

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:06 PM

Nope, nothing. The little LED within the interior lock button is lighting up red though, then goes out. The indicators go with the keys for a few goes too, after about 5 lock/unlocks it stops doing anything.

 

Might pop both the live and neutral off for the night just incase, but something somewhere is not happy. Time for more googling in a bit. It's got to be something simple, the actual wires are, as far as I can see connected perfectly.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:27 PM

I have asked on my local Vauxhall club's Facebook page, they're a good bunch and a fair few have Zafiras. I shall report back if anyone has any ideas.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:30 PM

OK, some progress.

 

In a thread, buried in a thread AND WRITTEN ALL IN CAPITALS a chap says to find a white 25a fuse... Mmmm, been told to find a red 10a fuse before, not a white 25s. So back out there and what do you know, there is a white 25a fuse, and it has indeed blown up! So a 30a (because I don't have a 25a) is procured from the stash in the Gooner, and fitted. Nothing...

 

Off and on again with the battery and THE SWEET SWEET SOUND OF DOOR LOCK MOTORS actuating in their happy joy! All of them actuate! Door check:

Front drivers - Check

Rear drivers - Check

Boot - Check

Rear passenger - NOPE

Front passenger - Check.

 

The motor is moving in the still not working door. I can hear it, I can feel it clunking it's merry tune, but the handle doesnt work, neither does the cable inside. I'm now wondering if there is still a broken cable, but not a blatent one, more of an internally broken one. I'll still take it to work tomorrow, and raid my stepdads garage for all the little reels of wire I stole out of my old Puma before I scrapped it, and tomorrow night, sit down and chop the whole loom right back. New wire EVERYWHERE, crimped for now, then if that works get busy with the soldering iron and heatshrink (or buy a repair loom if I can find one...)

 

The plot thickens, but I CBA now, got to drive the ruddy thing to work tomorrow because I don't quite trust it to not lock Amy out or the children in tomorrow.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:31 PM

I have asked on my local Vauxhall club's Facebook page, they're a good bunch and a fair few have Zafiras. I shall report back if anyone has any ideas.

Very kind, thanks. I asked on the Zafira B Owners Club earlier this afternoon about an hour before posting on here and they've been 900% less helpful than everyone on here has!


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:35 PM

Yeah - I just tried. Last one I did I used Vx kit as well.

 

O/s has far less use (usually) on a family wagon. N/s/r door is usually first to go.

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How bastard much? And that's the cheap pattern one!

 

The wires coming out of the plug on mine are fine (I think), I shall chop crimp and check, then if it works get busy with the heatshrink and soldering iron! Need to glue the rubber cover back over it all too, had to slice it in half just to get to the broken wires before I realised the whole loom just pulled through


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:41 PM

3 have suggested in the space of a minute, a broken wire between the door and the pillar? Is that what you have already checked?
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:44 PM

3 have suggested in the space of a minute, a broken wire between the door and the pillar?


There would be a possibility, if I hadn't pulled the loom back to the main run, however...

It works!

Went out just now to stick the fridge I borrowed for shitefest in the boot to take back tomorrow, and without thinking re deadlocked it. Shit, unlocked it again incase it goes funny, and hear a different clink... It bloody opens! I'm such a fool! I'd just been locking and unlocking it.

So it is fixed. Granted the door loom is now coming out of the door when it's opened, but I'll tidy that up tomorrow and let new wire in to replace the snapped ones!

Celebratory Cup of coffee I think! Still driving it to work tomorrow though, half the interior is missing and scattered everywhere now...
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:46 PM

Well deserved too, fixed!
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:34 AM

You sir are a genius. I would have threw it in a skip.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:31 AM

sometimes the  connectors get a bit grotty and dont supply the full power to the motor so it just clonks ,

 

a parting and rejoining of the connector can fix this ,

 

a lot of the wires in the connector can be unused as well as they can be for electric windows that are not fitted ,

 

rip them out and just repair the used wires , it makes the loom a lot more flexible


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:57 AM

Leg end. Fix my rear lights on the 75 please, i have tried for 15 months and can't.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:04 AM

Beko is now a chod bothering god!


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:32 AM

Beko is now a chod bothering god!


I wouldn't say that, there was a lot of hoping involved! My plan tonight is to chop All teh wires back on both sides and just solder all new wires in just to be sure. Don't care if the colours don't match, if I'm feeling kind to my future self I may write the colours down and stick the post it note to the inside of the door, but maybe not. Then cover the wires in grease, wrap them in tape, feed the loom back through then glue the rubber cover back on and put the car back together.

Drove it into work this morning, backache after 30 minutes! Went well though, but the gear change is really hard and notchy. It's always been like that though...
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:05 AM

Same seats as an astra H? Stupidly uncomfortable.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:55 AM

Same seats as an astra H? Stupidly uncomfortable.


Probably! I even adjusted them a bit (I don't usually as she moans, but since I had to roll the drivers seat right back yesterday to climb over it to get to boot I thought I may as well have a play.)
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Posted 15 June 2018 - 06:19 AM

Hi mate, I work for vauxhall, this sound like you have have a broken wire in the wiring between the B post and the door. If you open front door you can get in and release the wiring plug from the rear door, pull the rubber back and you will see the wires snapped or exposed and touching.
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