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505 Turbo Injection - back to Austria part 2


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#61 OFFLINE   pshome

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:15 PM

Looks very nice, car has nice lines. Are you not worried about the parts situation though on what is still a relatively recent model?

 

Indeed, i am scared. One headlmap has a stone Chip, TÜV will not like this.

Went to the interweb and actually had a choice of shops to buy from. Buy a part without weeks or months of searching?

Tagora driver is now deeply confused.

 

Do they have a night service at the loony bin?  I may need urgent assistance.


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#62 OFFLINE   pshome

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:16 PM

Did these get better looking with the facelift? Like the 405, I think they did.

Yes, facelift gave it more character, much prefer over the early ones.


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1981 Talbot Tagora GLS
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#63 OFFLINE   pshome

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:39 PM

Home!

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Careful examinination finds nothing wrong. Faultless all over, even electric windows, central locking and speech synth thingy work.

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Much much happiness here!

 

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End of the story? Stand by, surprise to follow!


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1989 505 SX
1982 Talbot Tagora SX
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Posted 03 February 2017 - 08:24 PM

That is lovely! Didn't you have one of these catch fire? Don't risk this one, it looks perfect.

#65 OFFLINE   pshome

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 08:56 PM

So what did we expect to bring home today? According to the previous owner, a 1986 Turbo 505 with the second version of the engine, 160hp with intercooler. Paperwork confirms this.

 

The first generation was without intercooler at 150HP. There was a later variant with 180HP which is pretty rare because it quickly dissapeared in favour of a catalysed version taking it back to 150HP. At the very end of the 505 Turbo  career, a catalysed version with 174 HP appeared 1998 with only few cars being delivered in Europe.

 

So what did we actually get? A car with chassis number 1922905.

 

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This clearly makes it a 1986 model, even though a very late one.

 

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Let's check that engine ID plate:

 

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1NA11 176 C it says.

 

Quick look at the reference book:

 

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Seems Peugeot was so kind to install the 1987 180HP engine into the last of the 86 models.

Grin, smile, happiness.

 

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1982 Talbot Tagora SX
http://www.altefranzosen.de
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#66 OFFLINE   pshome

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 09:14 PM

That is lovely! Didn't you have one of these catch fire? Don't risk this one, it looks perfect.

Yes, 2015. Story is here: http://autoshite.com.../20474-hot-505/

Apparently it was necessary to find this 505 Turbo.

2016, "Auto Bild Classic" a german classic car magazine reported about the accident.

That lead in 2017 to the call resulting in this collection.

 

God moves in mysterious ways!


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 09:19 PM

Dammit, that's FIT.


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 10:48 PM

I haven't see a 'protected by slick 50' sticker in years!


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:00 PM

I haven't see a 'protected by slick 50' sticker in years!

Obviously it didn't come up to its promises.


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Posted 04 February 2017 - 07:02 PM

Surprise is GOOOOOOD!!!
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Posted 04 February 2017 - 08:12 PM

I assume that Pininfarina had something to do with the shape.  It be stylin' yo.


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 12:34 PM

head off...

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cylinder 2 converted into a swimming pool.

Is it maybe only the gasket?

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nope...head cracked

 

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#73 OFFLINE   pshome

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:20 PM

Good progress made today. 

Tagora donor engine...
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is now headless.

 

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505 preped and eagerly waiting for the "culasse".

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Now things started to not work out as smooth as we thought.

 
Nothing here to fix that last bolt?
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We decided, it's a typical case of french overengineering! if 8 bolts are good enough for a Tagora, 505 will run just fine with that.

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We found those rings in a box. To strenghten the exhaust manifold that holds the Turbocompressor?
 
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Won't fit,  no groove milled into the Tagora head! That Garrett turbo is not that heavy, is it? French overengineering!
 
One more... spot the difference:

 

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Tagora

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Yes, you got it, 9 bolts to fix the injection is french overengineering, 8 will do.

 

At the end, it's where we want it, one way or another.

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If you need 505 Turbo parts, just follow us on the Autobahn. Once we hit 200 km/h, whatever you need can be found on inner lane.


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http://www.altefranzosen.de
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:43 PM

Moving ahead today.

 

All the Turbo bits and some more came in a box, puzzling puzzle..

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At the end, all is in the (hopefully) right place.

 

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Time to turn the key...

 

Yeaahh! Its back to live!


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:00 PM

Oooh, bonus Deutz!


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:30 AM

That's bloody lovely, can't say much more than that! 


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 10:17 AM

Beautiful looking thing - great work!
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Posted 11 February 2017 - 10:26 AM

Handsome car, well done for getting it running again.

 

Why do all old RWD Peugeots (504, 505) with manual gearboxes look like the gearknob is on backwards?


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 10:32 AM

No round the corner fan belt I R dissapoint...
Luvin dem alloys though

The RTC fan belt setup is only on some FWD Peugeot cars with viscous fans.
Obviously not an issue with the engine pointing the correct way.

Inspiring and awesome thread as ever. Good collision of spare engine and lovely 505 with a gubbed engine.
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Posted 11 February 2017 - 10:42 AM

Fan-bloody-tastic!  :) 


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 03:02 PM

Handsome car, well done for getting it running again.

 

Why do all old RWD Peugeots (504, 505) with manual gearboxes look like the gearknob is on backwards?

 

Very true, however once you've used them with the 'hook' to the rear it feels quite right and comfortable.



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 02:42 PM

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:45 PM

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:16 PM

Weißt schon, warum die Österreicher ein "A" hinten auf ihre Autos kleben?


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 04:44 AM

Ewige "A"nfänger?

Ich weiß jedenfalls warum ich es abmache...


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:42 PM

Weils keine Örschlöcher gibt.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:33 PM

Something about rear wheel drive?
I dunno, I understand the word "hinten" as " back" or "rear".
That's as much as I can decipher anyway.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:45 PM

Interesting point. When it's E for Spain and D for Germany...
Me neither.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:12 PM

That's lovely. Does it have normal seat runners?

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:47 PM

My dad had a metallic green 505STI with green tweed for a short time from 1st August 1979 - he bought one of the early ones delivered in the UK, but didn't keep it long since it was so troublesome. I seem to recall that it didn't have the bizarre seat runners that meant he could never get completely comfortable when driving a distance in the 504 or 604.

 

The 505 is a very handsome car - one of Pininfarina's triumphs.


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