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#1 OFFLINE   catsinthewelder

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:12 AM

Would anybody be interested in a big modern van as a project? The oil pump went bang within miles of hitting 100k a few months ago and since we have found that the bottom end is fucked we have borrowed the alternator and gearbox to fix other vans. It could earn someone a few quid to fix with scrapyard bits or possibly be converted to battery power. Offers around £2k. (Worth about £7k running) I know we should just fix it but there is a serious lack of competent mechanics around here and we've got decidedly fed up with broken vans.

I've put this on the open forums as its not Shite yet. Also for sale is a Citroen Relay if anyone is after a 13 plate vehicle.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:26 AM

Van 2k
New engine 2k ish
Gearbox 2k ish
Total 6k plus time and oil coolant filters sounds like it would be more cost effective to just buy a 7k one.

That's eBay prices I dare say a 100 or 2 could be shaved of those prices but still not an easy earner.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:31 AM

I'll move this over to the main board, Rich. Should get more attention on there and unless we get loads of complaints, I can't see why you shouldn't advertise on there.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:38 AM

http://www.ebay.co.u...NYAAOSw-0xYXV6f

 

Engine from this will fit in the Boxer ( as will the 138hp 2.0) cant comment on the gearbox though In afraid.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:41 AM

/\ That's a good find I couldn't find anything under 16 hunna.
Are the gearboxes a week point in these as there are plenty rebuild bits available.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:57 AM

Did it originally have the DV6 engine or the DW12? 

The 4HY/HW/HX engines are pretty interchangeable without any pissing about apart from the fuel pump ECU  - you need the matched pair - though you can bypass the immobiliser if you know how.

 

I know some of the Boxer range were fitted with the Iveco 34N 2.8 diesel - if this then fucked if I know - Im gaining my knowledge from the fact that the bulk of Relay / Boxer / Ducato running gear is interchangeable with the EV2 vehicles


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:59 AM

Got a quote from someone with a 2016 one on eBay who said £3250+VAT for engine and box, so it's still a cheap van for someone..


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 11:49 AM

Got a quote from someone with a 2016 one on eBay who said £3250+VAT for engine and box, so it's still a cheap van for someone..

That's the sort of prices I was getting,
£3900 for engine and box,
Plus two for van so you then have a jicksaw of bits standing you at six grand and that's not counting service items and sundries that may be missing from the engine combo,
Take into account the time involved and if it's only worth £7 k as op suggests well would it not be easier buying a 7k one from a garage with warranty,
It's the same with damaged cars these days very hard to make any money from them.

Would it not be more cost effective to just park it up and use it as a spares van to keep others going.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:32 PM

But someone can probably buy the mechanicals cheaper again, and it's a ladder to a decent motor for someone who hasn't got 7 or 8 grand up front. Nobody who buys it is going to be naïve, it's still a good deal for someone. GLWST, Cats.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:46 PM

V8. Space frame. Done.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:48 PM

Is this the type 69 rally spec? ££££££££'s super raer

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:51 PM

Actually, would an XUD fit it?

 

I guess getting it through emissions would be a PITA though.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:17 PM

But someone can probably buy the mechanicals cheaper again, and it's a ladder to a decent motor for someone who hasn't got 7 or 8 grand up front. Nobody who buys it is going to be naïve, it's still a good deal for someone. GLWST, Cats.

But will someone who hasn't got 7 or 8 grand upfront have 6 grand already to buy a Jigsaw,
Anyway I'm not criticizing the van or price my point is that as a money maker it's not gonna be a big payday unless a breaker or someone who has a damaged one already buys it.

It's a cheep van for someone who wants it for themselves as a project and it will sell pretty easily after all it's only four years old.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:42 PM

would an XUD fit it?

... emissions would be a PITA though.

 

Unless the rules have changed, last I heard is that emissions are tested to the rules for the age of engine if it's older than the car.

So XUD FTW!


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:43 PM

Actually, would an XUD fit it?

I guess getting it through emissions would be a PITA though.

I don't know if it's been changed but the emissions would be taken for the age of the engine,not the vehicle.....

Also.....what's the story with the Vivaro?

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:05 PM

More likely? Somebody will buy it and get somebody to nick one that's the same, hoy the engine out of it, give some scroat £100 for his trouble then kite it off on eBay for £6500.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:07 PM

More likely? Somebody will buy it and get somebody to nick one that's the same, hoy the engine out of it, give some scroat £100 for his trouble then kite it off on eBay for £6500.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:12 PM

I'd hope not. I'm saying if you advertised in on Bumtree... this would be the likely outcome.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:49 PM

Thanks for moving it across Billy, as you say it could be an earner for someone in the trade who can get the bits for sensible prices and has the gear to do it themselves. Reg is CE13CKL if anyone wants to check it out.

We were hoping to fix it but quotes to replace the engine were silly high considering it is due to retire from the fleet. Other bits were pinched as known good parts to get other vans back into service. These 6 speed boxes seem to be strong, the 5 speeds fitted to earlier vans were a bit feeble. Our box broke after a crash put a hole in it and all the oil drained out.

We are updating the fleet so this one is of limited use for parts now.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:09 PM

Considering all that's been said, £2000 van + £100 collection + £100 XUD 1.9turbo breaker + £50 full service kit + a weekend tinkering = £4500 ebay sale + £2250 wages. Winning!


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:14 PM

Buy

 

Insure

 

Remove ignition barrel

 

Tow somewhere quiet

 

Burn

 

Pocket £5K profit


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:12 PM

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 02:16 AM

How much is the Vivaro ? Could well be interested in that !

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 10:54 AM

What about fitting a Perkins Phaser in it? Or a Peugeot 'Suitcase' engine?

Seriously though it'd be a mammoth fuck about to fit an XUD wouldn't it? I'm not even sure it'd haul the weight would it?

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 01:52 PM

Having driven an early boxer with a 1.9d I wouldn't wish that on anyone
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:56 PM

V5, VIN plates, lockset and ECU.

 

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:08 PM

What did I say about not needing parts? Now withdrawn from sale after this happened to the Relay

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 05:08 PM

What's the details of the mondeo ?

I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 06:16 PM

It has now sold

There is also a 1.6 tdci Focus business edition on a 62 plate with about 78k up for £5100. This one still feels like a new car and the engine has only done 40k.

The battered Relay is currently my daily drive as the MOT has lapsed on the Astra and we can't rent it out in this state.
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Posted 14 January 2017 - 07:50 PM

Is the Mondeo a Zetec Business Edition or a Titanium X Business Edition?

If it's the Tit X one then that's a cracking price! We just paid 11 large for a 1.6 diesel in that spec with 51K miles.

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