Jump to content


Welcome to Autoshite

Welcome to Autoshite, like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community, but don't worry this is a simple free process that requires minimal information for you to signup. Be apart of Autoshite by signing in or creating an account.
  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get automatic updates
  • Get your own profile and make new friends
  • Customize your experience here
Guest Message by DevFuse
 

Photo

Electric nut runners.


  • Please log in to reply
63 replies to this topic

#1 OFFLINE   Nibblet

Nibblet

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,434 posts
  • 3 thanks
  • LocationGlouchestershite
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 05:59 PM

Anyone here own a mains powered nut runner? Considering getting one for the heavier/rustier jobs. Are they as good as air powered? I don't have a compressor and don't want to buy one atm.
1972 Volvo 164 (quite nice)
1972 Saab 96 (pond algae green)
1989 Benz 230E, it's red, very red.
1994 Volkswagen T4 1.9D Max powah

#2 OFFLINE   DodgeRover

DodgeRover

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,314 posts
  • 23 thanks

Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:05 PM

Impact wrench type thing do you mean? I cheat and use a hex to 3/8" or 1/2" adaptor and use my cordless dewalt impact driver to wiz stuff up/ down when I'm compressor less
  • DSdriver likes this

#3 OFFLINE   SiC

SiC

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 4,154 posts
  • 16 thanks
  • LocationBristol
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:13 PM

Impact wrench type thing do you mean? I cheat and use a hex to 3/8" or 1/2" adaptor and use my cordless dewalt impact driver to wiz stuff up/ down when I'm compressor less


I do too. The adapter bits I got from screwfix say don't use for impact tools, but they've not broken yet. Plus they were cheap. However 150nm from my Makita impact driver is a bit weedy tbh.

My next plan is to get a proper makita impact driver. However I'm not totally sure how useful it'll be, given the inaccessibility of most bolts on cars. The Clarke mains powered one is supposed to be pretty decent too.
Current Fleet:
1974 MGB GT - A stereotypical classic car.
2007 Honda Civic EX CTDi - The reliable runner that is like the family pet.
2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)

#4 OFFLINE   PiperCub

PiperCub

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,074 posts
  • 4 thanks
  • LocationLow & slow right over your head!
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:28 PM

Not sure if that's what you are after but I got one of these recently - grand piece of kit with some serious muscle. (Think that's what SiC is referring to).

 

https://www.machinem...-impact-wrench/

 

While a cordless is handier to use, mains ones have way more guts. I seldom work away from a mains source (my w/shop or driveway) so it's not an issue for me personally.

 

Wait until they have one of their VAT-Free days on Clarke products, I got it for £59 doing this. 

 

If you just want a nut-runner/electric ratchet then do what I do, use a normal cordless drill with some square drive adaptors in the chuck (usually come in a pack of three - 1/2", 3/8" & 1/4" drive). My normal DeWalt is fine for this. 


  • Dead_E23, M'coli, Banger Kenny and 1 other like this

#5 OFFLINE   Nibblet

Nibblet

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,434 posts
  • 3 thanks
  • LocationGlouchestershite
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:41 PM

Yes an impact wrench. The cordless stuff hasn't got the power for the heavy stuff, the 18v kit is hundreds of pounds, so I thought I'd buy a mains version.
1972 Volvo 164 (quite nice)
1972 Saab 96 (pond algae green)
1989 Benz 230E, it's red, very red.
1994 Volkswagen T4 1.9D Max powah

#6 OFFLINE   Nibblet

Nibblet

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,434 posts
  • 3 thanks
  • LocationGlouchestershite
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:43 PM

Not sure if that's what you are after but I got one of these recently - grand piece of kit with some serious muscle. (Think that's what SiC is referring to).
 
https://www.machinem...-impact-wrench/
 
While a cordless is handier to use, mains ones have way more guts. I seldom work away from a mains source (my w/shop or driveway) so it's not an issue for me personally.
 
Wait until they have one of their VAT-Free days on Clarke products, I got it for £59 doing this. 
 
If you just want a nut-runner/electric ratchet then do what I do, use a normal cordless drill with some square drive adaptors in the chuck (usually come in a pack of three - 1/2", 3/8" & 1/4" drive). My normal DeWalt is fine for this.


Yes, 450 Nm torque is more like it, a Clarke would do nicely.
1972 Volvo 164 (quite nice)
1972 Saab 96 (pond algae green)
1989 Benz 230E, it's red, very red.
1994 Volkswagen T4 1.9D Max powah

#7 OFFLINE   garbaldy

garbaldy

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 3,807 posts
  • 0 thanks
  • LocationBerwickshire

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:06 PM

Yes, 450 Nm torque is more like it, a Clarke would do nicely.


Your welcome to try mine if you think they are that good, I've never used it once since buying the cordless one and not because of the usefulness of haveing no cable either,
It's fooking shite in comparison.

#8 ONLINE   Tamworthbay

Tamworthbay

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 4,483 posts
  • 10 thanks
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:13 PM

I have the machine mart one and it's up to any job I have put it through. The rear subby nuts on the mx5 nearly beat it but it got there after a few goes and they were proper fooked.
  • Nibblet likes this

#9 ONLINE   M'coli

M'coli

    Rank: Lancia Gamma

  • Full Members
  • 7,181 posts
  • 5 thanks
  • LocationSemper semi somnus
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:14 PM

^^^ I too bought the Machine Mart one, and it's very good.


  • Banger Kenny likes this

"How would ya get a maaa-chine to do that?"


#10 OFFLINE   PiperCub

PiperCub

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,074 posts
  • 4 thanks
  • LocationLow & slow right over your head!
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:19 PM

Cordless is great of course but to get an equivilent cordless to the Clarke's power is going to be well over £300. Yes, Ideally, I'd love to get one but can't justify that level of spending (& I'm a tool anorak) on something that I don't REALLY need. 


  • Nibblet likes this

#11 OFFLINE   garbaldy

garbaldy

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 3,807 posts
  • 0 thanks
  • LocationBerwickshire

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:22 PM

The machine mart one might well have been good enough but I don't see the point in having to go around loosening all the wheel nuts prior to using it when the cordless does it first time.

In its defense it has never struggled with alloys wheels just steels which uses conical studs,
I've also used it under cars and it's bloody heavy and huuuge

#12 ONLINE   Tamworthbay

Tamworthbay

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 4,483 posts
  • 10 thanks
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:26 PM

I think you may have a duffer. Mine has had far far worse off than wheel nuts. The mx5 subframe nuts are biggies and were so rusty you could hardly see the thread. It got them off and they were red hot after so a lot of energy needed! There is nothing it's failed on. I have a cordless one as well (about £100 iirc) but it's only good for light stuff (like wheel nuts).

#13 OFFLINE   garbaldy

garbaldy

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 3,807 posts
  • 0 thanks
  • LocationBerwickshire

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:31 PM

/\ maybe but as I've never used it since I bought the cordless I may leave it for someone else to try.

#14 OFFLINE   Fat_Pirate

Fat_Pirate

    Rank: BL Wedge

  • Full Members
  • 545 posts
  • 2 thanks
  • LocationHampshire
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:32 PM

I've got the Machine Mart one and I'm not impressed by it - it failed to shift the driveshaft nuts on my Berlingo (180NM), and was ineffective against some suspension nuts on my 75.  


1996 Jaguar XJ6

1991 MX5

2003 Berlingo Multispace 

2002 CLK230 convertible


#15 OFFLINE   garbaldy

garbaldy

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 3,807 posts
  • 0 thanks
  • LocationBerwickshire

Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:33 PM

/\ thank God it's not just me then.

#16 OFFLINE   vaughant

vaughant

    Rank: Austin Maxi

  • Full Members
  • 330 posts
  • 2 thanks
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:50 PM

Another positive vote for the Clarke mains powered one, undid some really awkward rounded bolts on my cosworth rear diff to prop, couldn't get a good swing with a breaker bar and that munched them with ease.

Bear in mind any issues could be due to either dirt or damp in the brushes, it makes a huge difference, mine actually stopped working from it. A quick reseat of them (power off of course) did the trick.

I've also just had a cordless for Xmas but not had a chance to try it out yet, looking forward too next week or so.

Think that was about £300 with a battery etc, 18v dewalt.
  • Banger Kenny likes this

#17 OFFLINE   Nibblet

Nibblet

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,434 posts
  • 3 thanks
  • LocationGlouchestershite
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:55 PM

I think you may have a duffer. Mine has had far far worse off than wheel nuts. The mx5 subframe nuts are biggies and were so rusty you could hardly see the thread. It got them off and they were red hot after so a lot of energy needed! There is nothing it's failed on. I have a cordless one as well (about £100 iirc) but it's only good for light stuff (like wheel nuts).


Yup, this is the kind of thing I need it for.
1972 Volvo 164 (quite nice)
1972 Saab 96 (pond algae green)
1989 Benz 230E, it's red, very red.
1994 Volkswagen T4 1.9D Max powah

#18 OFFLINE   garbaldy

garbaldy

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 3,807 posts
  • 0 thanks
  • LocationBerwickshire

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:10 PM

Yup, this is the kind of thing I need it for.


Where about are you

#19 OFFLINE   Nibblet

Nibblet

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,434 posts
  • 3 thanks
  • LocationGlouchestershite
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:12 PM

^^^Gloucestershire.
1972 Volvo 164 (quite nice)
1972 Saab 96 (pond algae green)
1989 Benz 230E, it's red, very red.
1994 Volkswagen T4 1.9D Max powah

#20 OFFLINE   garbaldy

garbaldy

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 3,807 posts
  • 0 thanks
  • LocationBerwickshire

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:12 PM

That's a bit far for me to drop it over,

#21 ONLINE   M'coli

M'coli

    Rank: Lancia Gamma

  • Full Members
  • 7,181 posts
  • 5 thanks
  • LocationSemper semi somnus
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:55 PM

Yo, Nibblet, do you want me to pop up from Brizzle with mine one evening next week?


"How would ya get a maaa-chine to do that?"


#22 OFFLINE   Nibblet

Nibblet

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,434 posts
  • 3 thanks
  • LocationGlouchestershite
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:57 PM

For sure, I'll get me rusty nuts out.
You remember my lair? PM me.
  • The Moog likes this
1972 Volvo 164 (quite nice)
1972 Saab 96 (pond algae green)
1989 Benz 230E, it's red, very red.
1994 Volkswagen T4 1.9D Max powah

#23 OFFLINE   bangerfan101

bangerfan101

    Banned

  • Banned
  • 644 posts
  • 0 thanks
  • Locationthe peoples republic of south yorkshire

Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:07 PM

The Clark 450nm battery powered impact wrenches are shite.

Unless it's literally just come off charge its not going to shift anything that's seriously tight.

Then the batteries are nicad. Not a patch on lithium ion.

Not to mention it weighs a tonne and is clumsyer than my Mrs after 3 bottles of rose

#24 OFFLINE   DodgeRover

DodgeRover

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,314 posts
  • 23 thanks

Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:19 PM

Kielder tools cordless impact wrench, either buy direct or from machine mart on the vat free day, they're really good once they've been used a bit and freed up. The demo ones from when they were being developed are still going strong in professional everyday use and they also do a fixed price (£36 I think) repair service if you manage to bust it.
  • overrun likes this

#25 OFFLINE   BenHar

BenHar

    Rank: BL Wedge

  • Full Members
  • 735 posts
  • 7 thanks
  • LocationReigate, Surrey
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:24 PM

Do any of these work on Golf or Civic crank pulley nuts?

 

Ben


CHRIS1980, on 08 Jan 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:snapback.png

Your clearly thick....end of.


#26 OFFLINE   twosmoke300

twosmoke300

    Rank: Lancia Gamma

  • Full Members
  • 7,432 posts
  • 18 thanks
  • LocationCornwall

Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:28 PM

Civic crank pulleys can get silly tight over time . I've had to get a big 3/4 air gun to do them

Skoda Octavia 1.9tdi - the boring modern 

Fiat Ducato 2009 l3h2

Honda Crf250X

Suzuki TS50x

Kawasaki Ke175d

Prilla Pigsasshole 650

Saxo 1.5D

Land Rover 90 2.5 petrol

Honda CB250N super wet dream

 

 

 


#27 OFFLINE   DaveDorson

DaveDorson

    Rank: Austin Maxi

  • Full Members
  • 310 posts
  • 0 thanks

Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:50 AM

I bought a mains lidl one for buttons and it's ace. :) 


  • sofarsogood likes this

#28 OFFLINE   hairymel

hairymel

    Rank: BL Wedge

  • Full Members
  • 521 posts
  • 3 thanks

Posted 06 January 2017 - 07:51 PM

i have a 'clarke type' mains gun and think its brilliant. cant find my version but they all (clarke included) look to be rebadged versions of the same thing.

 

£55 neilson version - http://www.ebay.co.u...fYAAOSwJQdW-9Oa

 


  • Banger Kenny likes this

#29 ONLINE   Tamworthbay

Tamworthbay

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 4,483 posts
  • 10 thanks
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 06 January 2017 - 08:10 PM

i have a 'clarke type' mains gun and think its brilliant. cant find my version but they all (clarke included) look to be rebadged versions of the same thing.
 
£55 neilson version - http://www.ebay.co.u...fYAAOSwJQdW-9Oa

Yup, my one looks like that.

#30 OFFLINE   PiperCub

PiperCub

    Rank: Renault 16

  • Full Members
  • 2,074 posts
  • 4 thanks
  • LocationLow & slow right over your head!
  • Country : Country Flag

Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:06 PM

Mine too, not unusual these days, same product from the same factory (China mainly), different labels/colours/packaging for different customers. 

 

If I'd looked on ebay I could have saves a couple of quid and the journey to my local MM!!!! Never mind. 






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users