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Jag S-Type - first hand experiences?


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#31 OFFLINE   twosmoke300

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:20 PM

My first hand experience of s types was an R with seeming incurable brake judder and a v6 I spend a day welding the sills and rear subframe mounts on .
Didn't rate the drive but the R was bloody quick and some of the best seats I've ever put my fat arse in

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:14 PM

Nice looking cars, but a diesel?  It just doesn't seem right to have a tractor engine in such a plush car.  Go 3.0 V6, the fuel bills are not that bad, my dad had one and drove it conservatively and reckoned it was actually ok on pez.

 

I wasn't impressed with the interior quality, considering its a Jag I thought it felt abit cheap inside but a lovely ride and very comfy.


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:35 PM

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:23 PM

Remember I would like a 3.0 s type as a engine donor and I'll match/ better cartakeback if it's not a billionty miles from me....

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:40 PM

3.0 X type steers beautifully. They're like a slower, more refined Impreza.

S type was, as has been said, a Lincoln / Jaguar shared platform. Same one was going to be the Frogeye Scorpio replacement. So it's not Mondeo... it's a Granada :)
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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:49 PM

I had one as a courtesy car while my old X300 was being serviced. Undemanding to drive, but there was a floaty, artificial and unconnected feeling that I didn't like about it. It was a V8 model which sounded epic however, more so than my X308.

It was comfy, but the rest of the interior (of this very early one) was wank. Nasty touch points and BL-esqe panel gaps and lots of badly thought out lumps of hearing aid beige plastic. Jag interiors normally want to make you stay in the car even after you arrive at your destination, this was the opposite. Although it wasn't helped by the fact this one smelled of fish for some unknown reason.

 

I'm sure later ones are much nicer, but if my experience is anything to go buy, early ones are toss.


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:04 PM

X type appeals. The R75 looked more jaaag that the S type to my blurry eyes.



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:09 PM

S type was, as has been said, a Lincoln / Jaguar shared platform. Same one was going to be the Frogeye Scorpio replacement. So it's not Mondeo... it's a Granada :)

 

That's exactly what mine felt like. And would've been all the better for actually being a Ford instead of a Jag IMO



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:43 PM

I had a look around one on a forecourt and thought it was an awkward thing to get in and out of.    The door aperture seemed too short, so when I had the seat adjusted correctly the B pillar was in the way and I had to kind of throw myself backwards into the seat.   I'm not even freakishly tall at 6'2", so really tall people must struggle.

 

They're also quite cramped in the back because the roof is narrower than the doors so the windows slope inwards, and you just know the electric handbrake is going to be trouble.

 

Verdict: oversized Mitsuoka Viewt.


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:52 PM


They're also quite cramped in the back

 

Verdict: Not a real Jag

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:07 AM

Nice looking cars, but a diesel?  It just doesn't seem right to have a tractor engine in such a plush car.  Go 3.0 V6, the fuel bills are not that bad, my dad had one and drove it conservatively and reckoned it was actually ok on pez.
 
I wasn't impressed with the interior quality, considering its a Jag I thought it felt abit cheap inside but a lovely ride and very comfy.


Wouldn't call a silky smooth V6 diesel a tractor engine.
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:11 AM

the dizzler is not immune from runaway

 

one of the doctors car's did whilst on a test drive by mechanic when it ran away- near enuff crapped hisself as the thing was wheelspinning in 4th!


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:13 AM

the dizzler is not immune from runaway

 

one of the doctors car's did whilst on a test drive by mechanic when it ran away- near enuff crapped hisself as the thing was wheelspinning in 4th!

Drunk it's own oil due to turbo seals?

 

I've seen a Land Cruiser exploderate from that (well & the fact it was on it's side in a rock gulley at the time too).


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 05:20 AM

Owned a cheap 3ltr model and loved it but hidden rust meant it was time to move it on, whilst it feels good inside it is not on the same level as our xl saloon when it comes to jaguarness.

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:11 PM

Gratuitous pics of my X Type.   I reckon that X Types look meh as saloons, but look good as wagons.  Old fashioned, yes, but I like that.  Ford key, but feels more Jag than Ford when driven.

 

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:23 PM

I like those. I've always felt they're the modern(ish) version of Vanden Plas badged BL tat.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:46 PM

My old next door neighbour bought one even though I warned him they could be 'problematic'.  He loved it for about a week until the list of growing faults was getting ridiculous. He paid about 2.5 - 2.7K for it from a dealer who wanted nothing to do with it or him!

 

I really like them though! I'd have a late V8 like a shot but I wouldn't touch an early car with yours! :)



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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:58 PM

 I reckon that X Types look meh as saloons, but look good as wagons.  

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:04 PM

Ford key cheapens it somewhat !

Never understood this sort of stuff - it's like the "hard plastics" and "Mondeo switches" stuff - on my part I couldn't care less if it works I'd rather they spend the development budget on engines, ride and handling :)


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:07 PM

Nice looking cars, but a diesel?  It just doesn't seem right to have a tractor engine in such a plush car.  Go 3.0 V6, the fuel bills are not that bad, my dad had one and drove it conservatively and reckoned it was actually ok on pez.

 

I wasn't impressed with the interior quality, considering its a Jag I thought it felt abit cheap inside but a lovely ride and very comfy.

 

 

Wouldn't call a silky smooth V6 diesel a tractor engine.

 

It's a smooth engine in my Disco 3 (albeit detuned) but the active engine mounts in the Jaaaag make it very refined - true it doesn't sound as sweet as a pez V6, but it is easily as refined.  Not sure how they have done it, but there is no diesel "taxi clatter" at idle to give the game away.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:44 PM

Another thing that put me off was some of the DIY stuff - apparently you have to take the wipers off and remove some lump of plastic to change the air filter, and I saw some dire warnings about not changing the rear pads yourself due to the electric handbrake.

If this was Pistonheads, someone would say "Well you should expect to budget eleventy million pounds a second to run such a marvellous premium car" but I don't/didn't.


You'd need the tool to put it into service mode, you can get these a lot cheaper these days though than they were. But then you are talking an hours labour tops at a garage, for the sake of £40 or so...
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 04:22 PM

No idea how anyone would think changing windscreen wipers was different on this car or simply putting the epb off by holding the switch down when you switch off is any black art.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 04:28 PM

No idea how anyone would think changing windscreen wipers was different on this car or simply putting the epb off by holding the switch down when you switch off is any black art.

As I said, I saw some dire warnings in some Jag mag I used to subscribe to - could have been bollocks though.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 04:57 PM

As I said, I saw some dire warnings in some Jag mag I used to subscribe to - could have been bollocks though.

 

'Jag Mag', snigger.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 06:25 PM

Reminds me of the Daimler Owner's Club magazine which is called the "Driving Member". I shit ye not.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 06:47 PM

A lot of wipers on moderns (that the blades aren't accessible on when parked) have a service mode/position. Often with the ignition off, if you do a wipe/intermittent wipe, etc they'll move and park themselves in the upper most sweep position.
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 07:28 PM

Seems like complexity for complexity's sake - something else to break etc etc.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 07:52 PM

We had a 2003 S Type and it was definitely a Jaguar key.  It had a little Jaguar badge and everything.

 

I can't swear it wasn't a Ford key underneath but who fucking cares?  It's not like you're using a key from a 1987 Escort.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 08:06 PM

Stupid hexagonal profile key ? That's a ford one ? With a service life of about 10 uses before it wears out and fucks the barrel at the same time .
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 08:50 PM

Perhaps on the early ones, but the facelift after 2003 had a normal key, one that pops out like a flickknife.

 

The central locking was on a button, remote boot opening was on a button too which looked pretty swanky.

 

In summary, after having one as our main family car for about 3 years, the key was fine.  However this does not represent a statistically significant sample size and if a very ordinary key puts you off a car, you'll be shitting bricks at the thought of the CANBUS.


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