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#181 OFFLINE   Stevebrookman

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 09:58 AM

They are not at the moment-all the left over sealant and gasket are still on-waiting for a new HG and I've ordered a chain block to lower it 0n-might be done on the weekend.

I've got the wet n dry waiting!

 

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 04:28 PM

Best not use any kind of sandpaper, scraper only, unless you have a preference for a blue tinge to your exhaust gas in which case work away. 


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 05:39 PM

Scraper only it is!!!


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:23 PM

Latest on the Senator.

 

Back from hols so thoroughly cleaned the surfaces. New head gasket and "O" ring.  Me and my brother used my newly purchased block and tackle to gently lower the head down-all torqued up using the 3 stage process- 25, 50, 74 lb foot-even had my brother checking the order and settings. All put back together-thought I'd fill it with water. Drips started to form along the gasket joint on both sides of the head.

 

"Oh bother!" I thought.

 

Had a think and the only thing that came into my mind was a faulty Torque Wrench-It's nearly 30 years old-but my brother paid loads for it.

 

I went to Screwfix and bought a new one-all the bolts needed at least another quarter turn before the wrench clicked. Filled with water again-but so far no drips.

 

Hoping this is the problem and may have caused the last one to go tits up.

 

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:54 PM

Torque bars need calibrated once in a while if they're to be reliably accurate. Sounds like it might have been the case, but leaving it a while to settle while you fetched the other bar would've helped.
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 05:25 PM

Hello all,
Got it running this morning-dropped the old oil before starting-adjusted the rockers and then let it run for a while to bleed the cooling system. Changed oil and filter again and put on rocker gasket and rocker covers. Ran it for ages, drove in and out of the car port and all seems ok. Have a slight weep from rocker gasket-it popped out a little-but will do this when engine has cooled down.
So may be ok!

Thanks again for your help.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:56 PM

Hello all,
Got it running this morning-dropped the old oil before starting-adjusted the rockers and then let it run for a while to bleed the cooling system. Changed oil and filter again and put on rocker gasket and rocker covers. Ran it for ages, drove in and out of the car port and all seems ok. Have a slight weep from rocker gasket-it popped out a little-but will do this when engine has cooled down.
So may be ok!
Thanks again for your help.
Steve


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM

Took it out for a short dive on my "private road"-(insured-no MOT) and it went well. Still burning off the oil splashed all over the engine and surroundings. Will take for MOT this week or next.

 

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 07:31 PM

Good news, and good luck with the test.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 02:53 PM

Second that. Good luck and happy smokings!
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Posted 24 April 2017 - 04:22 PM

And here....Good luck, these are lovely things.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 04:54 PM

Thanks all,

 

MOT history doesn't look too bad.

 
MOT history of this vehicle
  • Test date 11 March 2016
  • Expiry date 27 March 2017
  • Test Result Pass
  • Odometer reading 60,181 miles
  • MOT test number 6229 0986 0071
  • Advisory notice item(s)
    Nearside and Offside rear damper bushes perishing
    Slight wear in inner track rod end joints
    Fuel pipe to fuel pump perished
    Slight leak from offside rear damper
  • Test date 28 March 2015
  • Expiry date 27 March 2016
  • Test Result Pass
  • Odometer reading 56,253 miles
  • MOT test number 8682 1708 5021
  • Test date 15 March 2014
  • Expiry date 14 March 2015
  • Test Result Pass
  • Odometer reading 54,187 miles
  • MOT test number 5662 6477 4041
  • Test date 20 October 2012
  • Expiry date 19 October 2013
  • Test Result Pass
  • Odometer reading 52,288 miles
  • MOT test number 2884 4469 2289
  • Test date 7 October 2011
  • Expiry date 6 October 2012
  • Test Result Pass
  • Odometer reading 51,053 miles
  • MOT test number 1452 0018 1288
  • Test date 29 September 2010
  • Expiry date 28 September 2011
  • Test Result Pass
  • Odometer reading 50,105 miles
  • MOT test number 7235 6247 0248
  • Test date 16 July 2009
  • Expiry date 15 July 2010
  • Test Result Pass
  • Odometer reading 49,789 miles
  • MOT test number 3221 6779 9187
  • Advisory notice item(s)
    Offside Front Upper Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 10mm circle within zone 'A' (8.3.1a)
    Centre Exhaust has part of the system slightly deteriorated (7.1.1a)
    Rear Exhaust has part of the system slightly deteriorated (7.1.1a)
  • Test date 8 July 2009
  • Test Result Fail
  • Odometer reading 49,789 miles
  • MOT test number 9027 6928 9118
  • Reason(s) for failure
    Nearside Front Brake hose bulging under pressure (3.6.B.3)
    Nearside Front front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
    Nearside Rear front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
    Offside Rear front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
    Nearside Front Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)
    Offside Front Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)
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    Offside Front Upper Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 10mm circle within zone 'A' (8.3.1a)

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:24 PM

Passed MOT today!!!

 

Advisories on track rod end and slightly corroded rear brake pipe.

 

Friend who took it had a problem on the way-a petrol pipe split-luckily though the car didn't go up.

 

Got a lazy starter motor or battery when hot-will investigate earthings on the weekend.

 

Drives lovely!!

 

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 07:41 PM

I don't suppose you have a spare starter motor for one of these kicking around?


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:33 PM

Pleased to read this. It seemed like you were not far off​ chucking it in, at least in the short term. Now you can smoke about in it all summer, nice one.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:24 PM

Good news, happy days!
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:22 PM

congrats on the mot win!


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 05:16 PM

I don't suppose you have a spare starter motor for one of these kicking around?

 

No unfortunately-looking for one for my Royale.

 

Car running nicely apart from an exhaust blow from the front pipes where they join the manifold-will take the exhaust apart and do it properly.

Not as fast as my Royale-but much, much more refined.

 

Got to fix the temperamental central locking and the passenger window amongst a list a mile long-but the original radio cassette works as does the courtesy lights delay.

 

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:21 AM

Congrats on the passage - good work that man. Still love the look of your Royale, mind.
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Posted 06 May 2017 - 11:56 AM

Congrats on the passage - good work that man. Still love the look of your Royale, mind.

 

So do I!

Royales not going anywhere-I'll get it MOT'd in a few months.

 

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 07:45 AM

Have been using the Senator back and forth to work for most of the week. Its about 12 miles each way-half of it on dual carriageways. The car is excellent-very quiet and supremely smooth. It is higher revving as has been said about the 3 speed -but again not intrusive at 70mph. It is a more sluggish box than the 4 speed on my Royale and the Senator is nowhere near as quick as the Royale (maybe because it is much more refined).
Only problem is the exhaust blowing (cannot hear it from inside!) I think from the manifold / front pipe join. I've got a new set of front pipes and will get a garage to fit them-it's a bit tight under my ramps!
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Posted 13 May 2017 - 06:20 PM

Now with working passenger window, central locking and electric mirrors!


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 06:14 PM

Hello all,

Been using the Senator everyday back and forth to work. Started having a problem the other day with the alternator overcharging-voltmeter went right up. Lasted a few seconds and then went back down. Okay for a few days until coming home today. Started to do it more frequently. Got it home and when it did it whilst idling-checked the voltage - about 16 volts. So suspect regulator. Wanted to use the car tomorrow so used man logic and pinched the alternator off the Royale (not mot'd at the mo). Bit of a faff as had to change an earth wire as Royale alternator slightly different-but all well!

 

Will try and get a regulator and swap back again (or knowing me-leave as is and put refurbed one onto the Royale).

 

Steve


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:28 PM

Aren't they rubber mounted? If so Check and renew the little earth strap from alternator to engine block


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:57 PM

Was going to say, when my 2CV killed its battery, it's because the regulator wasn't seeing a good earth, so didn't know what 12v was.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:58 PM

Thanks,

Checked that before taking the alternator off and was ok.

 

Got a regulator coming so will replace the regulator and put onto the Royale.

 

Thanks

 

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