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#1561 OFFLINE   Talbot

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:28 PM

NOVA declaration completed. Am considering a pre-MOT next week to see what we need to sort out. Rear seatbelts ARE required in vehicles after 1986. It doesn't have any mounts, so my thoughts are seat removal for the MOT,


IIRC you don't have to actually remove the seat. Simply folding it is sufficient for the belts to not longer be a testable item. Certainly in both 7-seat vehicles I currently own, when the 6th and 7th seats are folded, the belts are not tested.

I'd be very surprised if the car doesn't have welded nuts somewhere for the rear seatbelts. The trim might not allow access to them, but of all the cars I've ever worked on I've yet to see one that didn't have welded nuts for the rear belts. Even if belts weren't fitted (none of my Talbots ever had rear belts fitted, because 1985, much to the fright of any passengers I ever carried.)
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 01:44 AM

No, you do need to remove the rear seat. Folding an "everyday" use seat is insufficient, as the tester is actively encouraged to lift such a seat where no tools are required unless it is impractical to do so (e.g. there is heavy stuff on top (which the tester may decide to abandon test on).

The matter is different for those deemed "occasional" folded seats, rather than "everyday" folded seats.

Short-term: remove seat. Long-term: find/fit suitable anchorages and appropriate belts.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:18 AM

Chap who sold us the car reckons there are mounts. I'll have to clear the crap out and have a look.

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#1564 OFFLINE   Craig the Princess

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:32 AM

If you are getting generic rear seatbelts I fitted one of these to the Aconite Allegro last month.

Arrived quickly with all the bolts and washers include and even I could fit them.

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#1565 OFFLINE   beko1987

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:49 AM

Fit 2 child seats! Oh wait...
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 07:02 AM

The matter is different for those deemed "occasional" folded seats, rather than "everyday" folded seats.


DW: "I barely ever take more than one passenger. They ARE occasional seats"

Seems odd that a tester can make a judgement call about whether a seat is "everyday" or "occasional". To a single person or couple with no smalls, a normal back seat is occasional. To a family with 5 children, the rearmost 6th/7th seats are everyday. How is the tester supposed to know that?

We (my company) presented a Berlingo van for MOT a few years back with the front passenger seat in it's folded configuration, and gained an advisory for "unable to inspect passenger seatbelt due to seat in non-travel configuration" (or something similar). Surely a passenger seat fitted to a car is a passenger seat fitted to a car. Where it is or how often it is (currently) used is somewhat irrelevent.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 07:20 AM

Occasional means tip up or similar. Disco mk1 3rd row for example..

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:58 AM

Seems odd that a tester can make a judgement call about whether a seat is "everyday" or "occasional".


There are guidance notes in the old manual that I can't be bothered to dig out. They use the terms and give some definition to them. It's not odd for a tester to make a judgement call on loads of things related to the degree of wear of various components.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 01:55 PM

To be on the safe side strip the whole lot out, bar the drivers seat and present in 'track day car innit' mode


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 02:03 PM

Major news is that I've finally been able to pay for the car! Seller insisted on Western Union, which I've not used before. I pestered him again and again for details before we left the UK, thinking I should at least send a deposit. He never gave me the details.
I spent considerable time at his house trying to make the payment work, only to discover that it takes two days for the payment to go through. Oh, and it restricted the amount I could pay!
Eventually got it sorted, but he's been mithering that the money hasn't come through - pretty much during the whole of our trip back. Turns out he misunderstood how it works, but all is now good. I've paid £947 for the car via two payments, which included the spares, road tax and insurance for a month.

Total costs of the trip will need adding up at some point, but if we average £50 per night for accommodation, and about £40 for fuel every day, you get a good idea.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 04:35 PM

Not sure if it was there as a result of this mega-collection trip, but I have just passed a narrow boat on the Grand Union Canal near Grafton Regis, with a 'Hub Nut'' sticker in its window... :-)
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 04:54 PM

Not sure if it was there as a result of this mega-collection trip, but I have just passed a narrow boat on the Grand Union Canal near Grafton Regis, with a 'Hub Nut'' sticker in its window... :-)

 

 

I really do need to order a HubNut sticker.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:10 PM

Bring some up to SF18 Ian,  I feel the Disco should have one.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:32 PM

This post gets better by the day. I doubt there will be any other contenders for the post of year unless some daft twat tries to drive a Routemaster back from Sri Lanka.

Safe journey, as for Austria or Italy, which coppers are going to get the biggest surprise when they pull a Romanian reg car and find two of the UK's finest citizens in it ?

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 01:27 PM

Bring some up to SF18 Ian, I feel the Disco should have one.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 02:38 PM

Nuts. Knew I forgot something!

Have literally just ordered one to norn iron good sir. No rush as I've nothing to put it on just at the moment.....

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 02:45 PM

Also off topic, but I managed to make Mrs watch one of your videos in full. She's considering a LEAF and she found your video review extremely useful.....

Anyway enough ego massaging, back to Romanian chod

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 11:31 AM

Here we go then. This is how it all happened.

 


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Posted 11 June 2018 - 01:07 PM

gr8 stuff, look forward to episode 2.


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Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:08 PM

I’m sorry, is it only DW who brought a car back?
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Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:14 PM

I’m sorry, is it only DW who brought a car back?

 

Well, technically, there were two of us.


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:13 PM

I'm still working through a vast sea of video clips and pictures. SO MANY!

 

So, here's one.

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