They_all_do_that_sir Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Fantastic times one million chaps. I have thoroughly enjoyed picking my way through all this..... I totally understand if its something you don't wish to divulge, but perhaps as a reality check for the rest of us it would be useful to know just how much the trip cost outside of the purchase of the car..... It would certainly help put into context just how big an undertaking this was outside the time required and mileage travelled.... Looking forward to the videos and I shall toddle off to buy a hub nut sticker in a feeble attempt to contribute something to all of this!! Sent from my F3211 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The UK imported version (Dacia Denem) was last sold here in 1984 and they've all since been scrapped. Some useful info here https://www.quickfitsbs.com/PDFs/practical_classic_november_2010.pdf featuring Fuzz. Might be of some use to you DW cpjitservices, SiC and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Nobody likes the Roma, they both look out of place, the police are probably expecting to clear up every robbery/ theft in the area every time it gets stopped.Roma != Romanian. Upsets Romanians if you do that. Got told by a past college who is Romanian. A mild mannered man who got all very frothy when talking about the Romani people. I just avoided that topic entirely there after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Yeah, anyone who moans about "originality" when fitting rear seatbelts is a tool.Have I accidentally stumbled into PH forums? They might never carry passengers for starters. Wingz123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdjones Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Didn't anything sold in the UK have to have rear seat belt mountings from the mid 60s on? Just check a 12 break for where to put them.Surely they had started to put them in ,even in Romania by 1990? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Was going to say, I'm sure my R12 estate had rear seatbelt mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Some useful info here https://www.quickfitsbs.com/PDFs/practical_classic_november_2010.pdf featuring Fuzz. Might be of some use to you DWThe first vehicle I fitted rear belts to was a VW Type 2. I reused the front belts from a scrapped 405 that I bought from Fuzz. Rear belts are going in at some point but probably not before the MOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Didn't anything sold in the UK have to have rear seat belt mountings from the mid 60s on? Just check a 12 break for where to put them.Surely they had started to put them in ,even in Romania by 1990? 1964 was when front belt mounts were compulsory, '67 when belts were compulsorily fitted in the front. Spent the last 15 minutes internet browsing for info on when Romania fitted rear belt mounts, very hard to do. Just found an advert for a 1999 Dacia 1310 saloon and it's not got any rear belts that I can see of. https://www.olx.ro/oferta/vand-dacia-1310-1999-IDaJ6O5.html#bc93bee8fc;promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Didn't anything sold in the UK have to have rear seat belt mountings from the mid 60s on?1981. I had all the fun and games comparing and altering a 1976 Reliant Kitten chassis to 1981 spec. during a body swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillock Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The UK Denem brochure lists lots of extravagances but only blithely states inertia reel belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1964 was when front belt mounts were compulsory, '67 when belts were compulsorily fitted in the front. 1965 actually. 1967 for certain goods vehicles and 1970 for 3 wheelers over 5 cwt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1965 actually. 1967 for certain goods vehicles and 1970 for 3 wheelers over 5 cwt. Hmm, the RoSPA site I looked at for this info is telling me a falsehood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Didn't anything sold in the UK have to have rear seat belt mountings from the mid 60s on? Just check a 12 break for where to put them.Surely they had started to put them in ,even in Romania by 1990? My 1984 Lotus Excel didn't have rear belts fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1am Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just been browsing - are these realistic asking prices? http://www.theparking-cars.co.uk/used-cars/dacia-1310.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 lol, they're ambitious at best IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Rear belts from April 87. Any 12's fitted with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The UK imported version (Dacia Denem) was last sold here in 1984 and they've all since been scrapped. Some useful info here https://www.quickfitsbs.com/PDFs/practical_classic_november_2010.pdf featuring Fuzz. Might be of some use to you DWThe UK imported version (Dacia Denem) was last sold here in 1984 and they've all since been scrapped. On that practical classics note, pretty sure Sam Glover of that/this parish still has his dacia denem and the mot only ran out recently and is currently on sorn. Might be worth a message to see if his has rear belts fitted. http://autoshite.com/topic/13841-made-it-in-life-dacia-denem/page-1 egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Wow. I'd forgotten that! Seller tells me the 1310 should have rear mountings - I haven't found them yet, but we've still got wings and a dashboard in the boot. I'll have a look next week. Rear belts were not fitted as standard until 1998. oldcars, catsinthewelder and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The UK imported version (Dacia Denem) was last sold here in 1984 and they've all since been scrapped. On that practical classics note, pretty sure Sam Glover of that/this parish still has his dacia denem and the mot only ran out recently and is currently on sorn http://autoshite.com/topic/13841-made-it-in-life-dacia-denem/page-1 Not according to howmanyleft https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=✓&q=dacia+denem&commit=Search I'm sure Sam will confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Dolly,I've sent you a message on face book. Unsure if it's if relevance or not though but may help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Not according to howmanyleft https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=✓&q=dacia+denem&commit=Search I'm sure Sam will confirmReally wouldn't trust that site for actual facts.... Inspector Morose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Showing as on sorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Not according to howmanyleft https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=✓&q=dacia+denem&commit=Search I'm sure Sam will confirm It will be under Dacia 'model missing' on HML no doubt. 'Model missing' often explains why there are more cars in real life than you'd expect. E.g. I think the Allegro says only 162 taxed - and given the number that come up for sale, it is surely more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 E.g. I think the Allegro says only 162 taxed - and given the number that come up for sale, it is surely more.In the case of BL chod, it's Austin, Leyland, Leyland Cars, Austin-Morris, Austin Morris, etc. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 In the case of BL chod, it's Austin, Leyland, Leyland Cars, Austin-Morris, Austin Morris, etc. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisItalSLX Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The UK imported version (Dacia Denem) was last sold here in 1984 and they've all since been scrapped. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 It will be under Dacia 'model missing' on HML no doubt. 'Model missing' often explains why there are more cars in real life than you'd expect. E.g. I think the Allegro says only 162 taxed - and given the number that come up for sale, it is surely more. Yeah there are quite a few Dacia "missing" entries on there, I know it relies on the DVLA database being accurate, which given the massive cock up of handling the log book transfer of that Focus I owned, probably isn't very good at all. Just going on the info I could find while chipping potatoes for dinner! Just shows up as this for me. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 If you think we are mad listen to this from 8 minutes in https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00schhg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 NOVA declaration completed. Am considering a pre-MOT next week to see what we need to sort out. Rear seatbelts ARE required in vehicles after 1986. It doesn't have any mounts, so my thoughts are seat removal for the MOT, IIRC you don't have to actually remove the seat. Simply folding it is sufficient for the belts to not longer be a testable item. Certainly in both 7-seat vehicles I currently own, when the 6th and 7th seats are folded, the belts are not tested. I'd be very surprised if the car doesn't have welded nuts somewhere for the rear seatbelts. The trim might not allow access to them, but of all the cars I've ever worked on I've yet to see one that didn't have welded nuts for the rear belts. Even if belts weren't fitted (none of my Talbots ever had rear belts fitted, because 1985, much to the fright of any passengers I ever carried.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 No, you do need to remove the rear seat. Folding an "everyday" use seat is insufficient, as the tester is actively encouraged to lift such a seat where no tools are required unless it is impractical to do so (e.g. there is heavy stuff on top (which the tester may decide to abandon test on). The matter is different for those deemed "occasional" folded seats, rather than "everyday" folded seats. Short-term: remove seat. Long-term: find/fit suitable anchorages and appropriate belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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