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#151 OFFLINE   garethj

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:23 AM

They're definitely getting market share among Autoshiters.  In fact if they offered yellow lensed spotlamps mounted on the scuttle, sales would probably leap up even further.

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:25 AM

Just had a look on their website and they don't do autos! What a sod, I was quite into the idea.



#153 OFFLINE   Kiltox

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:46 AM

Just had a look on their website and they don't do autos! What a sod, I was quite into the idea.


Coming very soon but not in the shite spec
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#154 OFFLINE   They_all_do_that_sir

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:49 AM

might be tempted by one as a daily next year........

 

are they any good at towing? for me it would be white shite spec with 4x4 and diesel.

 

I would love to buy one new, and waxoyl the shit out of it and keep it forever



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:27 PM

They can tow 1500kg according to Google.

#156 OFFLINE   Kiltox

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 05:34 PM

No diesel in the shite spec you need to get the one IainL has at a minimum
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:39 PM

No diesel in the shite spec you need to get the one IainL has at a minimum

That's a shame. Seems odd really as the diesel in shite spec would surely be a good utilities wagon. Anyway parking near work the other day I was faced with this, bonus laguna coupe content....

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#158 OFFLINE   Kiltox

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:42 PM

They know that though - Dacia/Renault don't actually want to sell the Access model at all I don't think :)

That's ace!
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:12 PM

I'm hoping they bring the logan pickup to the UK

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check the interior

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epic, Mr. google reckons they are £6345

 

EDIT - mrs wikipedia reckons they have discontinued and has been "replaced" by the van dokker :(


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:51 PM

They know that though - Dacia/Renault don't actually want to sell the Access model at all I don't think :)

That's ace!

 

Very much so, a low priced model to advertise widely - then bait and switch - I smile like fuck when I know I got a tarted up access for £8.5k.


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Shite at present: New Autoshite Gold -  A 64plate DACIA DUSTER ACCESS: to quote a widespread takeaway - i'm lovin' it....

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:52 PM

I'm hoping they bring the logan pickup to the UK

http://www.daciagroup.com/sites/default/...

check the interior

http://www.daciagroup.com/sites/default/...

epic, Mr. google reckons they are £6345

 

EDIT - mrs wikipedia reckons they have discontinued and has been "replaced" by the van dokker :(

I'd love to see the Duster Oroch sold here. Midi-pickup with 4x4 running gear - much better than those Great Wall efforts with better back-up too.


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Shite formerly owned: Primera renault 11, peugeot 405, renault 19, renault laguna x3, all more shite than the previous one), kia clarus, mondeo, jeep cheroshite.

 

Shite at present: New Autoshite Gold -  A 64plate DACIA DUSTER ACCESS: to quote a widespread takeaway - i'm lovin' it....

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:56 PM

I believe finding replacement body panels for Dacias is still rather difficult at the moment.

That difficult that there's a 66 plate at work 386 miles and what I'd class as a light bump... Needs wing headlight front panel and bumper /grill.... Written off total loss due to cost of sourcing panels

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#163 OFFLINE   Kiltox

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:07 PM

That's got to be influencing the insurance costs then - not cool
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:08 PM

No different to anything else old and shite though. Plus panels will be 1000% easier to find than our current Aveo. The parcel shelf hinge popped off and went missing. It's just a wee lug thing that slots into the side trim in the boot but it's completely unobtainable online and there are no dealers any more either.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:11 PM

My local Vauxhall dealer still has a Chevrolet sign outside - massive pillar thing not just something on a wall easily forgotten

No dealer support at all?
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:19 PM

Must be a relic as Frasers who were our local Dealer got shot of the sign pronto and replaced with with SsangYong and MG ones.

Actually, when we bought our Chevy it was from Peter Vardy in Motherwell who area Vauxhall Dealer.

The showroom was Vauxhall at the front and then in the rear section, partly divided off, was the Chevy area. The Renault dealer in Stirling was exactly the same with Dacia. It's amazing how 2 similar ideas can turn out so differently.

Chevrolets were not cheap enough, our mid range Aveo was £11995 otr, look what kind of Dacia that gets you.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:56 PM

One thing I have noticed on the Dacias is their high rate of interest, so the monthly repayments aren't as low as they could be.

E.g. the note is £159 P/m no deposit
http://www.motorpark...17&src=motoring

While the duster is £189 P/m with £1338 deposit.
http://www.motoring....8e-0b376486287e

Despite being similar purchase prices. I wonder if the banks are thinking that the Dacia second hand value could be more volatile than other cars?
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:47 PM

Or perhaps they think the potential owner demographic is a higher credit risk? But I suspect you are right, it's projected residuals.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:50 PM

Or they're building more margin into the credit products - the finance is provided by Renault Finance

3% gross margin for the dealer in an Access Duster.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:52 PM

Probably more likely in that comparison that Notes just aren't selling.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:55 PM

One of my credit card providers has just offered me 4.9% on money transfers for the life of the balance with no fee so I'll be financing my purchase that way rather than the HP deal I've signed up for with the dealer I think!
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:58 PM

What's your credit rating like? Sainsburys loans are 3%.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:58 PM

Paying cash may not get you as good deal, as some offers are based on getting finance from the dealer. Also HP also has the added benefit of extra security. The loan is secured against the car, not you. Which also means that half way through the term you can give the car back, Scott free and no mark on your credit record. So if life takes an unexpected turn, you can get out quicker to reduce personal expediture. This happened a lot in the 2008 crash when people were paying more on a car than what it was actually worth.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:59 PM

It also has more protection if the car is a Lemon as you get more comeback laws on finance.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:13 PM

What's your credit rating like? Sainsburys loans are 3%.


Doubt it's 3% good unfortunately especially since I've already been searched and approved for the RCI finance recently
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:28 PM

No different to anything else old and shite though. Plus panels will be 1000% easier to find than our current Aveo. The parcel shelf hinge popped off and went missing. It's just a wee lug thing that slots into the side trim in the boot but it's completely unobtainable online and there are no dealers any more either 

 

I know someone who might be able to 3d scan the other side, put it through some software and 3D print it back to front



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:14 PM

Cheers chap but I'm not worried about it now the car is going. Plus the parcel shelf still works ok, you just have to prop it open and closed by hand, not something I wanted to live with if we were keeping the car though.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 10:13 PM

Must be a relic as Frasers who were our local Dealer got shot of the sign pronto and replaced with with SsangYong and MG ones.

Actually, when we bought our Chevy it was from Peter Vardy in Motherwell who area Vauxhall Dealer.

The showroom was Vauxhall at the front and then in the rear section, partly divided off, was the Chevy area. The Renault dealer in Stirling was exactly the same with Dacia. It's amazing how 2 similar ideas can turn out so differently.

Chevrolets were not cheap enough, our mid range Aveo was £11995 otr, look what kind of Dacia that gets you.


Peter Vardy did completely get shot of the Chevrolet franchise in all their branches, however other dealers which held Chevy franchises when Chevy pulled out of Europe still do Chevy repairs, servicing, warranty work and parts department. I know for a fact Arnold Clark Linwood do, as do Arnold Clark Mount Vernon, Dundee and whatever other Arnold Clark Vauxhall franchises ran Chevrolet franchises. Frasers of Falkirk website says they still do Chevy after sales and parts, and there's a Chevy website which says Belmont/Murray Sighthill Edinburgh still do them too.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 10:23 PM

Jeez oh man don't get Hendry started on dealerships!


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 11:06 PM

Paying cash may not get you as good deal, as some offers are based on getting finance from the dealer. Also HP also has the added benefit of extra security. The loan is secured against the car, not you. Which also means that half way through the term you can give the car back, Scott free and no mark on your credit record. So if life takes an unexpected turn, you can get out quicker to reduce personal expediture. This happened a lot in the 2008 crash when people were paying more on a car than what it was actually worth.

Won't make a difference on price to what I've ordered but it's a fair point for a lot of the PCP deals around with deposit contributions!

VT thing is a fair point but the cost of higher interest finance negates it i think

Protection against it being a lemon is covered - I have paid £250 directly on a credit card which means it's covered by the same part of the Consumer Credit Act as the HP would be in that regard.
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