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#151 OFFLINE   Hooli

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:18 AM

My conclusion is it sounds boring from what I've heard about it. Much like I've got no interest in learning to knit because it appears boring. It's quite easy to make conclusions from you know, most people do it all the time.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:35 AM

Good to see you over here Josh!

 

Re. Marinas in Southend, SWC 229K (yellow/brown 1.8 coupe) was sold on ebay in the Autumn, it had been stripped down by someone in Rochford who abandoned the project when he realised how little remained of the sills and floors. It then reappeared on Canvey, repaired, put back together and MoT'd. Not sure where it is now.

 

WPU 241S (Damask Red 1.3 saloon) is owned by an old chap in Gt Wakering. I spoke to him 2/3 years ago, he bought it as a used car in 1980 from SMAC's (local BL dealer) and had no plans to get rid, although I left my phone number.

 

Lastly WMG 647T (Reynard Metallic 1.8 SDL saloon) is owned by an old chap in Eastwood. This is a one-owner job IIRC.

 

I still have your original front numberplate for Ducky here which I tried repairing in 2013, the crappy chemical metal I used to repair it didn't take properly and after spending ages sanding it down it just cracked again. Which was immensely frustrating, and after putting it to one side it ended up getting scooped up with a load of other clutter and moved over to our top secret storage facility (grandparents loft). I'll sort it out soon, I promise!

 

Good grief, forgot about that numberplate! Definitely no rush!

 

I have seen a picture of WMG but not seen the car. I love Reynard. If that ever comes up for sale I could be tempted. I do fancy a MK2 especially now they are becoming tax exempt. I'd definitely give WPU a home as I love Damask and I love base models... that's if you didn't take it of course!


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1972 Morris Marina 1.3 DL Saloon- For sale soon...

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1995 Peugeot 405 1.8 GLX- Engine being swapped

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:42 AM

I've never been as banger racing sounds boring as hell, but I bet they have age categories, fwd/rwd classes etc

 

I am reminded of Malcolm Muggeridge who felt qualified to do a critique of 'The Life of Brian' without even watching it.

 

That said there are a lot who agree with you - modern bangers are shit etc


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#154 OFFLINE   Willy Warpit

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:44 AM

The difference is of course that in the first case you have come to your conclusion based on other peoples observations

whereas in the case of knitting I strongly suspect you have actually seen it done yourself.

 

I actually attended my first meeting by accident and was astonished at what I saw. Bearing in mind that I have seen a lot of

different types of racing in various parts of the world I did not think that was possible any more.

 

Lots of people think there is no skill involved in short circuit oval racing but bear in mind that for example one of the highest paid drivers

in the DTM is Jamie Green who is a works Audi driver and one of the three drivers of the winning Porsche at Le Mans in 2015 was

Nick Tandy both of whom started their driving careers on the ovals.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:55 AM

I started my driving career driving round the oval Huddersfield ring road, can I drive a car at Le Mans this year please?
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Posted 01 January 2017 - 12:33 PM

I started my driving career driving round the oval Huddersfield ring road, can I drive a car at Le Mans this year please?

 

I doubt Porsche would be impressed with that. I seem to recall seeing a bloke from Yorkshire wearing an

(ahem) unusual T shirt that bore the legend "would you like your Huddersfield?".


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 12:50 PM

Course they would it's about the same as a banger track just got more traffic lights.

Saying that I don't think I could drive a Porsche unless it was a Panther as I'd probably break it.

Oh dear at the t-shirt, needs to be read in my accent to make any sense :-)

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 07:35 PM

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Another one from Brooklands


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 07:45 PM

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A couple from Croxley Green.


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:06 PM

While we're doing pictures. The Marinas what I have seen:

 

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The police replica is alright but up close there are many imperfections and a general air of "not quite right". I think it's a bit tarted up under the fresh paint judging by the rust bubbles when I saw it...

 

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The bloke who owns this isn't really too fussed with it, I think the photo might flatter the paintwork a bit. He lamented losing one of those wheeltrims the last time I saw the car, the steelies underneath are rust free and painted silver and I did suggest it'd not look bad without them! Also the roof is painted a different colour which is a bit weird. He's got another Marina auto I think...

 

There is a distinct lack of Marinas up here, I'd like to help but I'd only really want to part with money for an estate and they seem to command alright money these days. :(


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:29 PM

I have never driven a Marina but have travelled many, many miles in them.  My Uncle Mike had a new Marina every year during the 70s.  Always a blue saloon, and I assume a 1.8 because he had a caravan, and took us on hols a lot.  He had one Ital, IIRC, but then went home to Ireland, where everyone was skint (this was pre the Celtic Bubble) and all cars were scabby Fiats and such (before the scrappage scheme which resulted in everyone having a Honda, except for farmers, who got Mercs).


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:45 PM

A mate of mine posted some shots of a pimped up Ital at Brooklands today, its a blue estate with a Marina grille on, and apparently a 2.0 Rover engine from an 820, and it gets driven hard by it's elderly owner. Different to say the least. 

 

This Marina belonged to a windowcleaner in my parents village in the early 00's

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:51 PM

Is that Marina hatch still around?

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 09:15 PM

I have a real soft spot for marinas. My sisters first car was an L reg mk1 1.3 sdl, my first car an Ital 1.3 SL. I thought it was just fine, roomy, reliable and I don't recall ever being concerned about the handling.
Is this example known to you? It lives locally to me in South Wales
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Reg is CVJ 439L it's clearly loved and cherished

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 09:58 PM

CVJ is well known in the Club, the guy who owns it has been a member for years. It's his daily car and does thousands of miles. He also has a really nice Bracken orange N reg saloon.

 

Both those Scottish auto ones have been on eBay, the other is Tundra green. The interiors are quite something having been patched up with various bits of wood etc. They were both up for just over a grand a few years ago and obviously didn't sell. They looked quite crusty and auto ones aren't very sought after. The police replica now lives down in Surrey with a guy and his son who have quite a few BL lovelies including a MK1 estate, two MK2 GT coupes, a Triumph 2000 and a Maxi.

 

The hatch is off the road at the moment which is probably for the best. I have seen underneath it and the chassis that was there was a patchwork quilt. Other parts were missing entirely.


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1971 Morris Marina 1.3 DL Coupe- Earliest known

1971 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL Saloon- Very crusty

1971 Morris Marina 1.3 SDL Coupe- Nearly back on the road

1971 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL Coupe- Luscious Limeflower

1972 Morris Marina 1.3 DL Saloon- For sale soon...

1994 Peugeot 306 1.4 Mardi Gras- For sale soon...

1995 Peugeot 405 1.8 GLX- Engine being swapped

1997 Peugeot 306 1.9 D-Turbo- Daily


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 06:13 PM

I know this is going to sound twaish but I'd hate to have a car that was "known to the club" and have its history and whereabouts tracked like some kind of sacred object :-)
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Posted 02 January 2017 - 06:36 PM

I saw that hatch years back in Lincoln, it looked utterly hanging back then. I am a miniature Marina apologist, as I've 4 of them now including the Vanguards rendition of that plod replica


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:19 PM

I know this is going to sound twaish but I'd hate to have a car that was "known to the club" and have its history and whereabouts tracked like some kind of sacred object :-)

 

It's for the benefit for enthusiasts really. We don't have any surviving build records etc for Marinas as they were all lost in a fire at Gaydon. Therefore it has only been because of my efforts to track down cars, talk to the owners, and build up a database that we have been able to discover the history of the car, it's development etc so can then answer the questions we get from owners (when was my car built, when will it be tax exempt, how rare is the colour, have you got any old photos of my car, do you know what happened to my old car- by far the biggest query etc etc). It has also proved useful when putting cars back on the road that have lost their paperwork, or reg plate and has been essential when the DVLA contact the Club asking for proof when somebody is asking them for their car to be made tax exempt. Most clubs have a register of cars and it is done for the benefit of the owners. Generally those who own an old car become interested in the history of that particular car. At least that's how I try and justify the work I have been doing for the last few years. My background and profession is heritage and and unless we share it and our studies of it then it's pointless preserving anything.


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1971 Morris Marina 1.3 DL Coupe- Earliest known

1971 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL Saloon- Very crusty

1971 Morris Marina 1.3 SDL Coupe- Nearly back on the road

1971 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL Coupe- Luscious Limeflower

1972 Morris Marina 1.3 DL Saloon- For sale soon...

1994 Peugeot 306 1.4 Mardi Gras- For sale soon...

1995 Peugeot 405 1.8 GLX- Engine being swapped

1997 Peugeot 306 1.9 D-Turbo- Daily


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:27 PM

I have never driven a Marina but have travelled many, many miles in them.  My Uncle Mike had a new Marina every year during the 70s.  Always a blue saloon, and I assume a 1.8 because he had a caravan, and took us on hols a lot.  He had one Ital, IIRC, but then went home to Ireland, where everyone was skint (this was pre the Celtic Bubble) and all cars were scabby Fiats and such (before the scrappage scheme which resulted in everyone having a Honda, except for farmers, who got Mercs).


Don't suppose he moved home to Wexford? Ital's were really rare here and I took the only one I'd ever seen as a scrappage scheme car in 2000; was a blue imported Ital that the old boy told me he'd had from new. I drove it for a few days because it was taxed, wasn't a bad old thing; but because of the scheme, we had to scrap it.

Farmers didn't get Mercs btw; diesel Jettas in the 80s and diesel Ventos in the 90s :)

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:33 PM

Found my photo of the Coupehatch, it looked rougher than Trigger after a few sherberts

 

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:49 PM

Don't suppose he moved home to Wexford? Ital's were really rare here and I took the only one I'd ever seen as a scrappage scheme car in 2000; was a blue imported Ital that the old boy told me he'd had from new. I drove it for a few days because it was taxed, wasn't a bad old thing; but because of the scheme, we had to scrap it.

Farmers didn't get Mercs btw; diesel Jettas in the 80s and diesel Ventos in the 90s :)

 

That wasn't my uncle, as he moved back to Dublin, and died in the 1990s.   I recall that the Powerscourt shopping centre was mobbed by silver Mercs after the scrappage thing.  Maybe farmers' wives!


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:09 PM

It's for the benefit for enthusiasts really. We don't have any surviving build records etc for Marinas as they were all lost in a fire at Gaydon. Therefore it has only been because of my efforts to track down cars, talk to the owners, and build up a database that we have been able to discover the history of the car, it's development etc so can then answer the questions we get from owners (when was my car built, when will it be tax exempt, how rare is the colour, have you got any old photos of my car, do you know what happened to my old car- by far the biggest query etc etc). It has also proved useful when putting cars back on the road that have lost their paperwork, or reg plate and has been essential when the DVLA contact the Club asking for proof when somebody is asking them for their car to be made tax exempt. Most clubs have a register of cars and it is done for the benefit of the owners. Generally those who own an old car become interested in the history of that particular car. At least that's how I try and justify the work I have been doing for the last few years. My background and profession is heritage and and unless we share it and our studies of it then it's pointless preserving anything.

I understand it might be useful to know some stuff it's just me not understanding these one make clubs and stuff like that.

My everyday car is 28 years old but I don't really care that much what it's done before just weather it's going to break down in the future! As normal it's each to their own and all that.

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 04:36 PM

I love that manky hatchback Marina, almost enough to offer some free welding on it to keep it alive! Almost.


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 04:54 PM

This one has turned up near me.

 

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The owner has had a series of automatic shitters, including a nice Mk1 Escort, a Capri and currently a Maestro.


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 05:47 PM

I know it's a real long shot but I wonder if you know of an orange or maroon saloon that was parked up for years in Chislehurst with a car cover over it in the 90s all I remember is it really looked in good condition

When I lived in Chislehurst a neighbour around the corner from me owned the car and the poor guy bought it to pass his test in and really looked after the car but he suffered from epilepsy and every time he got to the 2 year deadline for getting a licence he would have a fit so was unable to use the car or get a licence.

I went back past my old address about 15 years later and the car was still under the cover but recently I went past the address and the house has been extended and the car has now gone and I think the name of the road was called Elmlee close.

I just hope it didn't end up on the bridge.

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 06:14 PM

Has this one been on yet?  Apols if reposting.

 

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 07:31 PM

As everyone else is posting I'll join in with some Marinas what I done seen. I guess all of these are known to the club.

 

This one was at Stondon. Don't know where it went when the museum closed.

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1973 Morris Marina 1300 Deluxe coupe by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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1972 Morris Marina 1800 Super Deluxe by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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1972 Morris Marina 7cwt van by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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1973 Morris Marina 1300 Deluxe by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

Marina with a difference, Gaydon's SRV2

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1974 Morris Marina SRV2 by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

This one's well known around here (photographed at Shitefest)

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1972 Morris Marina 1300 Deluxe by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

Winner of last year's Festival of the Unexceptional. Not bad for something that's spent its life on a potato farm.

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1981 Morris Marina 575 pickup by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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1977 Morris Marina 1300 Deluxe estate by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

The Generally from Practical Classics

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1972 Morris Marina 1300 Super Deluxe Coupe by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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1972 Morris Marina 1800 SDL by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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1971 Morris Marina 1300 SDL by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

Some Itals

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1981 Morris Ital 1.7 HLS by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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1982 Morris Ital 575 pickup by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

The last one

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1984 Morris Ital 1.7 SLX estate by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

And my miniature Marinas from Oxford Diecast

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Marina medley by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

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Happy birthday Heathrow by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

And a link to a story on Craptical Plastics' Farcebook page about a Marina van found on Gran Canaria: https://www.facebook...390517474299869


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:37 PM

Howdy Josh. Pretty sure we've spoken (years ago!) when I was writing a Marina buying guide for one of the classic rags.

 

All these posts, and NO-ONE has remarked on the very early wiper layout. Why on Earth did BL ditch it and move to LHD wipers? Why did the arm shape change too? Those early ones look amazingly weird. I remember being fascinated by one that lived in our road when I was a (very young) child (a very young child with some serious priority issues).

I never knew the early ones had different wipers but then I haven't seen a Marina that old. So they started off the right way round then got swapped to the wrong way?! Typical back-to-front BL thinking. I always thought it was cost-cutting so they could use the same wipers for RHD and LHD but it turns out they go the opposite way on LHD cars, including the dreadful Yank-spec Austin Marina. Not sure it was to do with standardisation either - of the BL tin we've owned the Dolomite's went the wrong way but the contemporary Maxi's went the right way and were never changed.

 

Isn't the Austin Marina lovely*?

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Incidentally, what is the correct pronunciation of Ital? I've always thought it was 'It-al' as in Italy, but I heard Danny Hopkins saying 'Eye-tal' and as the editor of a leading classic car magazine he has no excuse for getting it wrong.


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:38 PM

Is the BAA Fire Service based on a real vehicle?  I started at BAA in 1990 and worked on among other things the Fire Service vehicles.  Before my time but I believe that other sections had Marina yellow estates.  BAA does have form with unusual emergency vehicles, the Airport Police had A60s an one stage.  Fire service had two Maestros, a 4 x 4 Dodge 50 and a Sherpa.

 

 

 

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