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Another Ex-Triggermobile! I quite liked this one, it went like shit of a shovel which was one of the reasons i sold it as i was going ti get in trouble with it, plus the high road tax and crap mpg didn't help my wallet much either, saying that it was a hell of a lot more fun to drive than the current Fiesta TDCi.

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The Arnison used to get packed right out, too. So in terms of kroozin, both deserve an honourary mention.

Fuck Washington.

 

Did the new motor start alright this morning? You will buy old cars etc

Yeah fuck Washington, right in its Concord (no relation). Holy Toledo starts on the button and conveyed me with comfort and refinement. First car Ive ever had that has six, count them, six forward gears. Pootling along at 30 in sixth genuinely feels like getting a shoulder ride off a tiger. Its confortable and quiet and serene but theres the perpetual possibility that events could become very loud, exciting and dangerous if it spots something in the long grass and decides its lunchtime.
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Yeah fuck Washington, right in its Concord (no relation). Holy Toledo starts on the button and conveyed me with comfort and refinement. First car Ive ever had that has six, count them, six forward gears. Pottling anond at 30 in sixth genuinely feels like getting a shoulder ride off a tiger. Its confortable and quiet and serene but theres the perpetual possibility that events could become very loud, exciting and dangerous if it spots something in the long grass and decides its lunchtime.

 

More chance of your big end bearings being lunched than any potential automotive victims if you keep that 6th @ 30mph taxi driver caper up (I know you mean on level ground).

 

How long until one of the window regs drops to bits? :-D

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Shall we have a review from the proffessionals?

 

Heres what Alchoholics Anonymous had to say about the Seat Toledo at the time;

 

Quite why the SEAT Toledo hasn't sold by the shipload in the UK is one of the motor industry's more puzzling quirks. Impeccably screwed together, with a range of punchy engines and offering superb value for money, the Toledo appears to have all the bases covered. There are certainly no drawbacks concerning styling, cost of ownership or safety. Perhaps, as much as anything, the Leon has suffered as a result of SEAT's residual image as the VW Group's bargain basement.

 

Let's start with the much-vaunted 'Mediterranean Spirit' - at which point even the most ardent SEAT enthusiast has to admit that this is no Alfa Romeo. That, however, doesn't mean the Toledo isn't a refreshing change from the family hatchback norm. For a start, it appears to be longer than Astra or Focus-class alternatives (from the outside at least) and is (not that this means a bigger cabin). The styling's smart and purposeful too: the kind of car you really might buy if you fancied a specialist brand but couldn't face the hassle. The Toledo 20VT flagship variant will eventually be available in four-wheel drive form but for the moment, British buyers have access only to a two-wheel drive version. Never mind, you still get the same 180bhp turbocharged 1.8-litre engine - the same as you'll find in the futuristic Audi TT sportscar. When the all-wheel drive option arrives, you'll essentially have a TT that can seat five people. For the time being, the Toledo 20VT is the least expensive 180bhp five-door car you can buy - and it's extremely rapid. How many other family hatchbacks can offer up such a tempting mechanical recipe? As you might guess, the 20VT flagship is there to generate showroom traffic. With all VW-sourced products, you feel behind the wheel that you're in something much more expensive, thanks to the choice of trim materials and the way the switches and stalks snap into place with an expensive click. There are lovely touches everywhere, including red backlit instruments and a steering wheel adjustable for rake and reach. Every Toledo model comes well equipped. Power steering, twin front and side airbags, ABS and EBD (electronic brake distribution), electric front windows and remote central locking are included, even on entry-level S 1.4-litre petrol or 90bhp turbo diesel models. At SE level you get air conditioning, traction control and lowered sports suspension along with a wider choice of more powerful engines: petrol 1.8-litre or that 110bhp turbo diesel.

 

On the road, the driving experience isn't much different to that of a Golf (or an Octavia or Audi A3 come to that). Surprise, surprise. Unless you're in the 20VT, that means a predictable, easy, forgiving but not particularly inspiring recipe. Best of the mainstream bunch has to be the 1.9 TDi 110, with its superb pulling power from almost any speed and exemplary refinement. It's as quick or quicker than all the ordinary petrol engines (0-60mph in 10.7s en route to 120mph) and of course much more frugal. The turbocharged version is Seats Ace In The hole. Reaching 60mph in a mere 7.7seconds on the way to 142mph, the Toledo offers budget power, although those who expect it to handle like a Peugeot 205GTi may be a trifle disappointed. That's not to say that the Toledo is a dynamic duffer - far from it - it's just a lot more mature and relaxed than the eyeball-searing paint and ultra-low profile tyres would have you believe. If you're after something that will corner like a demon, your money would be better invested in a Renaultsport Clio 172. If, on the other hand, you want something that goes a lot faster than it feels, the Leon may well be more suitable. Despite its undoubted pace, the Toledo suffers from that perennial VW Group complaint, fading brakes. This only manifests itself when the brakes are used very hard, such as on a demanding hill route or during track work, and that sinking middle pedal, noticeable drop in retardation and significant increase in the smoke often spell the end of play until some cooling has taken place.

 

 

A used Toledo Turbo fits a strange niche, not through any inherent oddity in the car's design, more as regards its image and place in the marketplace. More individualistic and stylish than a Ford Focus, it's almost a sporty coupe for those who need five doors. With used examples now appearing on the market in reasonable numbers, a nearly new Toledo makes a good case for itself as a way to get VW quality in a package that was a bargain from new. Well regarded by those who know, the Toledo is very much one of the best used secrets around.

 

7 out of ten shots of sherry on christmas morning.

 

Barry Dickins © 2006.

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The Toledo was also reviewed as a second hand purchase by international barrow boy of mystery, Gerg Wallace.

 

"I bought this old china to drive me anyans and spads raaaand instead of usin the van. Its quick as an eel and spicier than a whole pot of jerked chicken with chilly sauce on top, i can tell yer. Ive had it for free years naaah and its safe to say that i liiiiiiiiike it. Its all things to all men and i could eat it with a spoon till the cows come home and believe you me, I wouldnt mind if they were late! I pop me Phil Collins on and thats me, off to work happy as a dutchman in a windmill. Laaaaavly.

In fact, I love it so much I got a tattoo of it on me belly."

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