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Smart Roadster - The poo brown go-kart.


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#121 ONLINE   Tickman

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:15 AM

I am more than slightly envious of you to-do list having so many things crossed off.

 

You are turning this into a very sorted example for a very reasonable sum of money, well bought and well fixed.


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

The other day, I had a Groupon offer pop up on my phone for a aircon regas at my local Mr Clutch fast fit centre. For £32 I thought it was worth a shot to see if this will actually take any gas. As these cars are notorious for cracking their aircon pipes at the compressor, I wasn't expecting much...

 

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Not only did it take a vacuum, it still had over 200g of gas left still in the system! A very much perfectly fine. After a 5 minute run, the vent temperature was already 8C, despite being 23C outside. 600 odd grams of gas is also an awful lot. I guess because the system stretches from one end of the car to the other, there is a lot of pipework.

 

I'm pretty chuffed it managed this. Not totally essential in a soft-top, but really, really nice when stuck in traffic in a city on a baking hot day.

 

I've done around 900 miles since having it, so still not done loads - but then its only supposed to be a fun car that I take out occasionally and have a blast in. Being so small, its super great for getting around the city mind. You can weave in and out, squidge between gaps that other cars can't go and have great fun blasting around in it. 

 

Its also one of the few cars that people look at. I'm not sure if its admiration or just trying to figure out what car it is. So very different and distinctive against so many other bland modern things out there.


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:08 PM

Since I've had this, the interior fan has never been able to run on fan speed 4. This is commonly caused by the switch contacts being dirty. The official way to get to the switch is to pull the dash completely out. However the very useful evilution guide says that its possible to get to by taking the instruments out.

 

So after attacking bits of trim with a torx T10...

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You can just see the white fan switch connector in the middle of this picture behind the steering column.

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After scraping my hands to bits I managed to free the switch.

 

Unfortantly the reason the fan didn't work on speed 4 became clear.

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Bugger. :(

 

The remains of the burnt connector were stuck down in the switch housing. I did try to scrap the contacts clean on the connector and also gave the fan switch contacts a rub down in the hope it might make some difference. Its usually these contacts that cause the problem when they oxides up.

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As the connector burning is a fairly common problem, it is possible to get replacement looms from Mercedes/Smart. Handily there is a dealer up in Newcastle who sells all this stuff direct on eBay. So after relieving £18 from my wallet, I ordered this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131672836837

 

It seems a lot for a connector and some wire, but I guess its not too bad considering 1) its German, 2) its a genuine part and 3) its available in stock.

 

Looks like some more hand scraping action will be needed to try and extract the dud connector, so I can splice on a replacement loom and terminals...


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 08:05 PM

Are there any electrics that work on these? it's beginning to look like a goona2 that's shrunk in the wash...



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Posted 12 June 2017 - 08:25 PM

Well they do suffer similar problems. Water ingress in the body computer (I've sealed the main source of leak on this), chaffed wiring in the engine bay (which I fixed and was causing the gear fault originally), dirty connectors, burnt connectors, etc. However most of it is well known now and relatively easy to get to most.

 

Unlike the Laguna, at least its fun to drive! 


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:00 PM

LOL, they do look fun. Only modern I've seen that is nearly as small as a Midget & those are the perfect size for driving around sideways in...



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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:05 PM

They're surprisingly hard to get the back out on! Or I haven't had the guts yet to push hard enough to get it to. There is a bit of reputation that when they loose grip, it can happen all very suddenly. However its suspected a lot of that is due to the factory tyres weren't that good.


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:13 PM

Rear engine adds a lot of pendulum effect as well I bet.



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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:50 PM

I think it was Bridgestone tyres that the roadster got fitted with from the factory as standard and it was supposed to be the best quality bit of rubber on the car as you couldn't wear the tyres out and people would joke that it was a shame that the seals wasn't made of the same stuff.

But I think it was due to the weight of the little smart though that the tyres lasted so long but I must say I never had any trouble with the handling or grip on the car but maybe I just didn't drive it hard into the bends but I've lost my Z3 in the wet in ford capri style on its mismatched rubber.

My mate had a Brabus coupe exclusive and scared the life out of me in it and he hit a nasty 90 degree bend at over 60 just to prove that if you get in trouble the computers will take over and get you out the other side ok and I'm sure it was that and not his driving talent that saved the day but his car did have the large bendy Brabus wheels on but he changed to standard wheels at a later date as he was fed up with having to replace them or getting them repaired due to running over potholes or cigarette packets but they did look nice when they were round.
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:55 PM

The Spikeline wheels on mine are my favourite and actually was something I was looking for on one! I'm not a fan of the brabus monoblocks tbh and they're obviously not the strongest either. The rears that I replaced where date coded as original to the car - even after nearly 100k.

Mines currently sporting 4 brand new Goodyear F1s, so plenty of grip now. Just need to get that tracking sorted.
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 03:01 PM

Taken it into garage this afternoon to get the wheel alignment done. A rather nice P6 V8 is sitting outside too.

Irritatingly the smart has rewarded me on the drive to the garage by not boosting at all. Boosted fine on the way in. Suspecting boost control valve may have heatsoaked and died. Ffs :(
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 03:29 PM

Had to come back again as it was way out the wrong way. Oh dear. They did tell me they had £35k of hunter gear. Which is good but you need to know how to use it...!

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:02 PM

Well that'll explain the lack of boost. Nice easy one this time.
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A quick run down to the local independent motor factors for some overpriced e clips. Still, at least 6 quid is funding local business and is far cheaper than paying someone to fix it.
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Then 5 minutes of faffing around under the car trying to avoid the hot exhaust.

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Fixed! Boosts back. :)
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