dollywobbler Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just back from another 400-mile trek in this thing. It is marvellously stress-free for distance driving, though my lovely bright orange wheels are no longer so bright. Brake dust all over 'em. I need to get an oil leak sorted - cam cover and camshaft seal I think. 5700 miles covered since September, so it'll be due a service soon. It had a fairly quiet winter, but the mileage rate has been going up this year. egg and RobT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 MOT time... No problem! No advisories. One rear brake was a little weak, but they adjusted it up for me. Struggled on emissions until given an Italian tune-up to actually get the cat warm. Problem with the MOT station being downhill from my house... KruJoe, trigger, The Moog and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Dropped the oil on the S-MX, replaced the cam cover gasket and cam end seal (noting that one of the cam cover bolts doesn't seems to spin...). Back together, new plugs, (old ones very white...) and off with the oil filter. Only the f*cking thing won't shift. So I'm now stuck here. Access is absolutely bloody awful, with the filter lodged beneath the air intake manifold, so the only access is from below. Won't undo by hand (which annoys me), my wrench is too bloody big, because the filter is stupidly small, nothing I do will free it off. I don't want to go all screwdriver on it, because then I really am screwed if it still won't come off, and covered in oil. Even repaired a broken strap wrench only to discover there is not enough room to use the sodding thing. There are about three inches of working space around the filter. It's utterly shit, I'm very hungry and I wish I'd just farmed the bloody job out. Apologies for rant. somewhatfoolish, Coprolalia and Bobthebeard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-cylinder Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Dropped the oil on the S-MX, replaced the cam cover gasket and cam end seal (noting that one of the cam cover bolts doesn't seems to spin...). Back together, new plugs, (old ones very white...) and off with the oil filter. Only the f*cking thing won't shift. So I'm now stuck here. Access is absolutely bloody awful, with the filter lodged beneath the air intake manifold, so the only access is from below. Won't undo by hand (which annoys me), my wrench is too bloody big, because the filter is stupidly small, nothing I do will free it off. I don't want to go all screwdriver on it, because then I really am screwed if it still won't come off, and covered in oil. Even repaired a broken strap wrench only to discover there is not enough room to use the sodding thing. There are about three inches of working space around the filter. It's utterly shit, I'm very hungry and I wish I'd just farmed the bloody job out. Apologies for rant. Fill it back up with oil and take it to your local garage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Fill it back up with oil and forget you needed to finish the job 5 months later? dollywobbler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Fill it back up with oil and take it to your local garage? I'm wondering if you can do an oil filter change while it's full of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthebeard Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I'm wondering if you can do an oil filter change while it's full of oil. Possibly,But only on someone else's drive. Sloth in a bowl, Stanky, the judge and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 You can change the oil filter with a sump full - the filter is way way above the oil level and only " wet" while it's running . I've got a tool for those filters but not much use to you in cornwall I'm guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 You can change the oil filter with a sump full - the filter is way way above the oil level and only " wet" while it's running . I've got a tool for those filters but not much use to you in cornwall I'm guessing Ah, that'd be why I don't remember you struggling to get the old one off! (which I recall looked like it had been fitted to the Titanic). I'm chucking new oil in then. Filter can wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Ahh I thought I did it last time . I am known for doing them up a bit tight . Paranoia about having one come loose is what I'm blaming it on . Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Given up for now. Fresh oil is in. Have a slight issue in that I'd forgotten to fit a heat shield, but it's held in place by the one cam cover nut that's spinning. Oh dear. Wonder if I can get away with not having the heat shield fitted then? It does include a reinforcement for the dipstick... Midges have ended play for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Have you got the cam cover nuts muddled ? Some hondas use different nuts in different positions . If you look inside the nut some have 2-3 mm with no threads . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Have you got the cam cover nuts muddled ? Some hondas use different nuts in different positions . If you look inside the nut some have 2-3 mm with no threads . Possible I guess. It isn't coming off again now regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiatPhil Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hello Dw,Re. removing the oil filter. Would one of these fit in the space provided?I found this tool essential for doing this job on Fiat F.I.R.E. engines. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SWIVEL-OIL-FILTER-WRENCH-BAND-TYPE-CAR-ENGINE-REPAIR-ADJUSTABLE-REMOVAL-TOOL-26D-/332171035614?hash=item4d56efc3de:g:UqIAAOSwSlBY33slActually the one I have looks more like this:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Articulated-Swivel-Action-Oil-Filter-Band-Wrench-73-82mm-Capacity-AK6415-/311341750176?hash=item487d6a17a0:g:Ex0AAOSwEeFVNAc1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Not much access for that on hondas. The cap type and a flex head ratchet spanner are best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Aye. Anything with a straight handle is pretty much a no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Badger Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Not much access for that on hondas. The cap type and a flex head ratchet spanner are best Aye I've still got one floating round somewhere I think (might have sent it away with the Accord Coupe), if I can find it you can have it Mr Wobbler. They don't cost much anyway. http://www.coxmotorparts.co.uk/genuine-honda-petrol-oil-filter-removal-tool-p-1912.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm wondering if you can do an oil filter change while it's full of oil. Do things the Richard way, get a Pela pump, extract via the dipstick, change filter and fill again? Or am I missing the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 You don't need to drain the oil so yes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Get a leather belt on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Try putting on a pair of rubber gloves to increase the grip on the filter when you are twisting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 Try putting on a pair of rubber gloves to increase the grip on the filter when you are twisting it? I did. No dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 hmmm, does it slip, or just not move? Can you get 2 hands on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 hmmm, does it slip, or just not move? Can you get 2 hands on it? Starts tearing the skin from your hands, inside the glove. You can only get one hand on it at a time. I'm just ignoring it for now. Engine bay back together, roll on the weekend! twosmoke300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 In other servicing news, I don't much like the look of the old spark plugs. Too weak? Might explain why it's doing 34mpg... somewhatfoolish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 If it was weak it would throw the eng mgt light on with a fuel trim code . Hondas do run v clean but that plug is worn right out - poor spark will need a bridge to jump that gap That's what kills coils and igniters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I changed the oil of wifey's Grand Vitara a few weeks ago and could not get the filter off for similar reasons. Not my car so I didn't want to resort to hammering the brake-windback tool into the end of it ( which worked ok on my MR2) so I bought a selection box of cheap Chinese end-on filter wrenches from Amazon or eBay. About £22 delivered from somewhere in the UK. Sorted. I will never need another one will I? I have had one of those strap wrench Sykes-Pickavant things for years and only found it to be useable once. If I have put the filter on there is never an issue with getting it off by hand. I guess main dealer "servicing" only includes the filter if it is very easy to see/get at so they sit there for years. Why are oil filters on Japanese cars so much smaller than on Ford / Vag etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 If it was weak it would throw the eng mgt light on with a fuel trim code . Hondas do run v clean but that plug is worn right out - poor spark will need a bridge to jump that gap That's what kills coils and igniters Odd. I've never seen plugs end up like that after 6000 miles before. I guess I have done a lot of motorway miles, so it's seen a fair bit of 3000rpm+ motoring - maybe a bit more than that when I was running late for Japfest at Silverstone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I don't remember doing plugs on it - certainly look like they have done a lot more than 6k by how rounded the centre electrode is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiperCub Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Try putting on a pair of rubber gloves to increase the grip on the filter when you are twisting it? Try putting a thick elastic band or two around the filter body, this'll give you the grip you need to move it. Sheefag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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