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#1111 ONLINE   BorniteIdentity

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:30 PM

I’ve noticed myself struggling to see in the old Avensis of late. Collecting an eBay purchase the other night was quite difficult at times; I put it down to it being a particularly dark night, every other motorist having new modern lights and me being absolutely knackered.

However.

The wife has just pulled out in it and the rear lamps are also notably darker than (I think) usual. The car runs well, and there are no current signs of any other maladies.

Thoughts? I’m immediately thinking that the alternator might be beginning it’s declaration. What’s the best way to test? Across the battery or at the bulbs?

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:35 PM

Engine running you want to see a good 14v across the battery.
Try turning some power hungry things on, hrw, headlights, heater blower and other things that might begin with h, see if the volts stay stable or plummet.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:35 PM

- Check across the battery first with the engine off to make sure that is ok, should be 12.6 - 12.8v ish if its fully charged.

 

- Start the car, should see around 14 volts or so across the terminals. Then put some load on it - heated window, headlights, heater and check the charge rate isn't falling off.

 

ETA: beaten to it!


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:37 PM

One other thing. The indicator stalk is on its way out. Indicating left requires a couple of attempts or a slow and purposeful pull.

Same stalk also turns on the lights.

Coincidence? I have a replacement ready to fit but I never cba to do it for reluctanfe to have an airbag go off in my face Alan Partridge style (!)

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:38 PM

- Check across the battery first with the engine off to make sure that is ok, should be 12.6 - 12.8v ish if its fully charged.

- Start the car, should see around 14 volts or so across the terminals. Then put some load on it - heated window, headlights, heater and check the charge rate isn't falling off.

ETA: beaten to it!


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:41 PM

One other thing. The indicator stalk is on its way out. Indicating left requires a couple of attempts or a slow and purposeful pull.

Same stalk also turns on the lights.

Coincidence? I have a replacement ready to fit but I never cba to do it for reluctanfe to have an airbag go off in my face Alan Partridge style (!)

 

I've had a knackered light stalk operate the headlamps but not the tail lights so I guess it's plausable!

 

Shouldn't need to disturb the airbag to fit a new stalk.



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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:43 PM

I've had a knackered light stalk operate the headlamps but not the tail lights so I guess it's plausable!

Shouldn't need to disturb the airbag to fit a new stalk.


The wheel needs to come off. I even checked the internet and everything. Garage sadly confirmed.

No biggy. It will need going soon enough so I should just stop ignoring it tbh!

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:45 PM

The wheel needs to come off. I even checked the internet and everything. Garage sadly confirmed.

No biggy. It will need going soon enough so I should just stop ignoring it tbh!

 

Ah. That's a bugger.



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Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:17 PM

Blimey. Read the title and immediately thought the engine must have started knocking or smoking. To discover it was only a minor electrical fault pleased me no end.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:25 PM

Blimey. Read the title and immediately thought the engine must have started knocking or smoking. To discover it was only a minor electrical fault pleased me no end.
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I think this is about as broken as they get tbh. Fog light stopped working in the week. “Meh - a bulb” I thought. Negative. Original bulb had just become dislodged. Back on the air immediately.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 08:56 PM

- Check across the battery first with the engine off to make sure that is ok, should be 12.6 - 12.8v ish if its fully charged.
 
- Start the car, should see around 14 volts or so across the terminals. Then put some load on it - heated window, headlights, heater and check the charge rate isn't falling off.
 
ETA: beaten to it!


For a better idea of what is going on measure the current being delivered......output voltage check not that reliable

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 05:09 PM

Decided to have a go at fixing this bloody indicator stalk. YouTube indicated it was possible to do the job with the wheel still on - albeit on a Camry - so went for the kill.

Got the stalk off in about 5 minutes having accidentally obliterated one of the cowling clips. Meh. Not immediately clear why the last one is beginning to fail other than it being a bit sloppy. Plugged the new one in - boom! “And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”

Then things got a bit Autoshite.

See. I didn’t realise this but - 14 months ago - I bought a stalk from a car sans front fog lights. Mine has front fog lights. The result is the front fogs are permanently on and unswitchable. Bollocks.

As I started to put the old one back on, I realised I’d rather have indicators than front fogs, so set about disabling them. Well - not them - it. The offside one has stopped working again. First I tried to unplug the working one but the undertray is stuck AF. Arse. Couldn’t get in from the top either because washer bottle.

Fuse!! Ah!!

Having spent 30 mins looking for my pliers, I ended up removing the 15a fuse with my wife’s tweezers!

Job jobbed. There are no correct parts on eBay so I’m looking for one whilst muddling along with this. It works - so it’ll probably be on there forever.
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 02:49 PM

I MIGHT* be guilty of overthinking things. I realised if the alternator was shit, it’d probably be flashing the battery light occasionally.

Checked tail bulbs.

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This could potentially be a cause.

Gonna have a further think about the front light issues. Bulbs are relatively recent but they are on a fair bit. I might splash on 6 H7 osrams but if it still makes no difference then I’m down a fair few quid and not much wiser.

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 04:03 PM

How are the headlight lenses? Might benefit from a polish up.



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Posted 12 November 2018 - 08:10 PM

Check the voltage at the bulb holder, might have a touch of corrosion somewhere and halogens brightness really dims down with a slight voltage drop.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:45 PM

Just seen this on bumtree might be if use to the base

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Posted 16 December 2018 - 10:14 AM

A rare issue to report with The Granvia.

It sounded a little bit rough last week and I thought then that the front part of the exhaust was probably on its way out.

However, within the space of 150 miles it’s properly given up and it sounds as gruff as a tractor. I can’t be arsed to climb under it as it’s wet AF and I’m crook, but will have to later.

The concern now is being able to source the part, get it and get it fitted before Christmas. It’s the only 7 seater we have and the only way we can get over to family etc. Everyone’s miles away so taxi etc won’t work.

BBC spares in Hemel seem to have most bits but I don’t fancy getting the car another 60 miles without knowing what wear/damage exists under there - so it’s all fingers crossed stuff.

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Posted 16 December 2018 - 12:30 PM

How is your local National Tyres place?   I dive in my local one when things like this happen asking for them to look at my exhaust.   They let me under the ramp with them and over the past few years I have found them top blokes - they have helped me get at least an extra 9 months life out of my 190E system.


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 12:42 PM

NT do seem to have people who know what they're about, more than certain 'competitors'.  The Cannock branch has always been good, IME.


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 12:52 PM

Certainly been my experience, the fellas down here all drive shite too - W124, 740 Volvo and an old Pug.....


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 03:01 PM

I had as good a look as possible earlier and it’s definitely somewhere near the front. I will try to get it to a fast fit place tomorrow for identification purposes and hope to source a part swiftly.

When I had a rear box and pipe two years ago it was £170 from the garage’s supplier or £50 on eBay which I had delivered straight to the workshop. So fingers crossed for a similar deal this time.

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 10:01 PM

Got the Granvia back - about £450 lighter after an entire genuine exhaust (front to back) and a set of pads for good measure. Just needs tracking up but time was against me, and the local place say it’s too big for their ramp.

Next up for TLC is the 190. It’s running very poorly when cold (autochoke seems to perhaps not set properly) and rev hard when cold the revs actually dip rather than rise. Fine when hot. There’s also a small leak of oil and a bit of coolant on some hoses so that’ll keep me busy. MOT due imminently too so will probably do that first.

Sierra still dead. I’ve done precisely nothing on the engine rebuild as my garage is leaking and I had a really good lead on a proper good pinto engine. Sadly the seller was a cock nosher so I left it. It’ll get done - eventually!

Plans for 2019? I’d like a Morris Minor. The wife is fully onboard with getting something that’s a qualified classic, so that’ll be the job for the spring.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 09:36 AM

So, with the Sierra bASe laid up at the side of my garage, and the engine being on my bench for the last 3 months, and my son nagging to get it fixed so we can go out for a spin in it... I did the logical thing and spent 3 hours of New Year's Day on the road picking up a bumper.

 

Diehard bASeists will know that the car is currently rocking the rear bumper from a Nissan Sunny.  Whilst amusing to those who don't have to look at it each day, and arguably a part of the car's story, it was only ever fitted when Leroy (previous owner) had to replace the original and he just stuck on what he could find.  I've now found an original Ford bumper, so it's going on.  It's been in a field for the last 15 years, and cost me the princely sum of £20 from the most AS of eBayers I've ever met, and I'll probably* set about fitting it before even starting on the engine rebuild.

 

The vivacious ALF892 is my biggest supporter on the project, and has kindly offered further assistance in getting the head rebuilt.  I'm just waiting for the damage of my HMRC bill to die down before getting everything sourced.  I want it on the road by March 1st really, so wish us luck.

 

Pics later, as it's been a bit wordy on here of late amirite?


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Posted 04 January 2019 - 10:39 AM

Progress is progress! Look forward to hearing more about the engine rebuild.

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 01:08 PM

Best of luck! Plus I support you 100% in getting the correct rear bumper back on.

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 04:46 PM

Fit the bumper before you start on the engine rebuild. The improvement in the car's appearance will help motivate you :)


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Posted 04 January 2019 - 05:27 PM

And then... the shite world moves to balance the yin and yang and find equilibrium.

My little 190 has become a bit of a pain when cold. The autochoke was always beautifully behaved until a few weeks ago. It's now not happy idling from cold and needs a bit of manual intervention on the throttle. However, give it too many beans (over say 2k) and the revs actually dip to the point where the car wants to stall.

Do you think this is a carb issue and I'm due a tune up? I've not had to do anything on it yet and have now had it a year. It's due a service and MOT but just wondered where to start with it! I also wondered whether it might be ignition related, but the car runs well when warm.

Where should I start?!
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:23 PM

And then... the shite world moves to balance the yin and yang and find equilibrium.
My little 190 has become a bit of a pain when cold. The autochoke was always beautifully behaved until a few weeks ago. It's now not happy idling from cold and needs a bit of manual intervention on the throttle. However, give it too many beans (over say 2k) and the revs actually dip to the point where the car wants to stall.
Do you think this is a carb issue and I'm due a tune up? I've not had to do anything on it yet and have now had it a year. It's due a service and MOT but just wondered where to start with it! I also wondered whether it might be ignition related, but the car runs well when warm.
Where should I start?!


Could you buy another Avensis, pull the lump, and drop it into the 190? Seems the logical solution.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:26 PM

Could you buy another Avensis, pull the lump, and drop it into the 190? Seems the logical solution.


Mercedes, from memory, made a test mule a few years back - a w201cdi using the 220d engine. It was almost the perfect compromise between old and new. Other than the ball ache to make it work!!
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:27 PM

Edit. It was a 250 cdi.

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