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#511 OFFLINE   dome

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 11:46 AM

Greetings all.

 

The S4 continues to Go Like Fuck very well, although my list of jobs for it starts to grow. Nothing too major althought here's an intermittent vibration from somewhere that needs diagnosing as well as gearbox and axle fluids to change. My fettling mojo has been pretty low of late though.

 

It was logical, therefore, to buy some more shite...

 

A mate and I had been talking about getting a track car for some Knockhill action. I live about 5 miles away and the lure of the place has been great. I fancy taking the Locost on at some point but would rather find my feet in something more substantial. 

 

To cut a long story short, yesterday we went halfers on this fine chariot.

 

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It's a 2.5 V6 manual with 170 Bhp. It has a stainless exhaust and an induction kit so obviously it has lots* more than that now. It's also cheap enought that if(when) we roll it into a ball it won't be the end of the world. Financially at least.

 

Randomly it has been rebadged as a Mercury Cougar (It was sold as a Mercury Contour in the US I think) and the seller reckoned the grill/mudflaps/steering wheel and fuck knows what else are worth money. We shall see..

 

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Behold our lovely light trims and tinted rear window. Guaranteed 20% across the rev range.

 

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Opps, they fell* off

 

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It drives OK but the tyres are shit so we'll look for some 15" (if they fit) or 16" steel wheels and flog the alloys.

There's something not right at the rear end so that's a priority, then bleed the brakes and probabaly fit discs/pads before taking it to Knockhill to show off our driving prowess. WCPGW?


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 12:22 PM

Check the secondary inlets are opening up,you should get a Vtec style shove at around 3.5k iirc
If they don't get regular exercise then they can gum up....
Most Mondy ST200 bits will bolt on engine wise
There used to be a fairly active forum at UKCougar.org,but was incredibly clichey
One of the members had a totally over the top car that had been on Barry Island Boys,Piston heads SOTW ect. They did their best to defend him but it was an awfull thing to look at....
May be interested in the Mercury grille and rear badge if cheap.....
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

Shit the bed!

I was looking at that on gumtree / ebay (can't remember which) the other day, thinking "hmm, tempting!"



Good work!

I'm guessing it's an alternative to the 406 coupe you didn't win (and nor did I, boo).
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 12:56 PM

I've driven a V6 Cougar... it was EXACTLY the same as my V6 Calibra, i.e. long-legged rather than sporty with lazy, wide-spaced ratios in the gearbox. This doesn't suit the engine particularly well imo.

 

When I get round to it I'll swap the box in my Calibra for the close-ratio f28 6-speed I acquired from a Calibra Turbo a while ago, this appears to be the approved mod. Not sure what box would fit the Cougar if you choose to go down that route though.

 

Plenty of car for the money though, Cougars are sheep as ships nowadays.


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:26 PM

I've had two 2.5 Manual Cougars and can honestly say they are the best built Ford from the 90s after I sold my first one I regretted it so much that I spent another year finding the best that money could buy so bought a fully loaded minter which had done hardly any miles but redundancy forced me to sell it..

The thing is I still see both of them driving about locally years later still looking good I think Silver though is the only colour they come in.
The holy grail in Cougar ownership is owning a metallic red one as a few made it to our shores in that colour by mistake as it wasn't a colour available in Britain also some managed to be smuggled in via Southern Ireland.

Also check the front wishbones as these can only be bought through Ford and are quite expensive as the things aren't shared with any other ford and both mine ended up needing new ones and if you buy them from America cheap you still end up with import tax.

Also the V6 is a gem of an engine and is so smooth that you can balance a pound coin on top when it's running and I found that if I filled the car up I could get 99.9 miles to the gallon on the fuel computer if I rolled it at 70 down a very steep hill out of gear on the A21 so who needs a Hibrid when you can have a V6 lol.
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 04:07 PM

Wishbones are shared with the Mondeo ST200 but aren't cheap anywhere
Front leather seats are allegedly done by the same company who did Lear jet seats
You do seem to sit On them and not In them but comfy enough for me
Front subframe is supposed to get dropped to change them as the bolts drop in from above
Rear subframe are starting to rot out,as are the back of the sills
Rear calipers sieze up
Ect
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Ford priced them right up with BMW'S,hence not many got sold
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 04:19 PM

Flip! you need to drop the front subrame to change the seats?


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 09:12 PM

Well, let's see what we have then?

 

The back end was not right. There was a rattle the seller thought was a shock bush and the RHS rear didn't feel right at all.

 

So, up we go.

 

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Not pictured but the bush going from the bottom of the hub onto the trailing arm was gubbed and the cause of our knock. 

 

Next, can anyone spot the problem?

 

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Yep, the second pic is the RHS transverse arm. It has been fucked somehow and has dragged the rear end out of alignment. This in turn has fucked the bush under the hub. Yet someone has been driving it like this for ages. Makes you wonder...

 

Incidentally the seller waxed lyrical in his advert about this having a zinc coated rear subframe. It's safe to say he was talking shit. Not that we actually care. 

 

A new arm is on the way and a bush will be sourced as soon as I can work out what the fuck it is called. The local factors list two in different sizes at a whopping £5 each. Might just buy both.

 

 

 


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 09:49 PM

Well, let's see what we have then?
 
The back end was not right. There was a rattle the seller thought was a shock bush and the RHS rear didn't feel right at all.
 
So, up we go.
 
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Not pictured but the bush going from the bottom of the hub onto the trailing arm was gubbed and the cause of our knock. 
 
Next, can anyone spot the problem?
 
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Yep, the second pic is the RHS transverse arm. It has been fucked somehow and has dragged the rear end out of alignment. This in turn has fucked the bush under the hub. Yet someone has been driving it like this for ages. Makes you wonder...
 
Incidentally the seller waxed lyrical in his advert about this having a zinc coated rear subframe. It's safe to say he was talking shit. Not that we actually care. 
 
A new arm is on the way and a bush will be sourced as soon as I can work out what the fuck it is called. The local factors list two in different sizes at a whopping £5 each. Might just buy both.


Suspension made out of lolly sticks?

Is that what modern cars look like underneath?

I've said this before and I'll say it again, what is the fucking world coming to?

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:02 PM

that exhaust looks well done....cough
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 06:50 AM

These were fairly savaged in the press, and I think rather cruelly so. Hacks kept whining about over-the-top styling - which by today's standards is anything but. Apparently they weren't quite as sharp to drive as a Fiat Coupe. But what is? If ever a car was damned with faint praise, this was it.

 

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If you get really attached to yours there's a very good 1:18 scale model out there which can be achieved fairly unspendily.

 

FWIW, the Mercury Cougar was also sold in the UK as the Ford Cougar. Contour was the US Mondeo, Mystique was the Mercury Mondeo.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 09:29 PM

Got the transverse arm off tonight and compared it to the new one.

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Yep, that's fucked.

Still got the trailing arm bush to do. Going to be a pain as I don't have a press. Things may get ugly.

Talking about ugly, I posted up on a cougar forum a thread about this. The thread needs to be approved which still hasn't happened 24hrs later. However, within minutes one of the moderators has commented on the previous owners project thread(which never got off the ground) about him selling it. I was open about tracking it, I suspect they've taken the huff and deleted it. Good old one make forums eh?
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:14 PM

I had one of those Cougar V6s. It was quite a nice drive.

The only car I've ever known a scrap yard to turn down. Eventually sold it to a mechanic mate who ran it for a couple of years after spending about £200 on it.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:45 PM

I had one of those Cougar V6s. It was quite a nice drive.

The only car I've ever known a scrap yard to turn down. Eventually sold it to a mechanic mate who ran it for a couple of years after spending about £200 on it.

 

There goes our exit strategy then!

 

Desperately needing wheels/tyres for the Cougar for track antics but am being tight as two coats of paint about it. Ideally OEM Ford 16" or 17" withlegal non shonky tyres. Anyone got anything?



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:50 PM

The chap who bought it may still have the set of Konis he fitted to it. I'll ask.
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:54 PM

I can offer up some 17" tyres from well known manufacturers but which might* be a bit elderly. Yours for the cost of postage if interested?


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 04:23 PM

Ah, so where were we?
 
The S4 vibration was getting worse-it was really noticeable on acceleration, getting to the stage it was undriveable. 
 
Googling revealed a few options with the worst case being clutch/flywheel. Mine has had all of his done to cure a vibration in the past. My fettling Mojo was low so the S4 sat for a week or two while I smoked about in the Cougar. One front arm was worn and while I suspected it wasn't the cause I replaced that which made no difference. My Mojo sank further.
 
I eventually got back underneath it and started with the CV joints-these can go and give similar symptoms allegedly.
 
Well, what do we have here?
 
 
 
That was the drivers side inner CV. The vid should show me holding the shaft with one hand (Steady...) while showing the play in the CV with the other. Safe to say that one is fucked.
 
A bit of Google Fu revealed the same inner CV used across all A4s this shape. I ventured off to my local scrappy to liberate a driveshaft from a breaker. This wasn't as easy as you'd think... The inner CVs are held on to the transmission by 6 bolts. If the cars in one piece then a screwdriver in a vent on the disc will stop the shaft rotating when removing them, of course in the scrappy they were all missing hubs which made things a challenge. I eventually got one removed and headed home. 
 
Old shaft out and dismantled the CV. It shouldn't look like this...
 
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"New" one was stripped down, cleaned up and assembled and then it was time for a roadtest.
 
Result! The vibration was gone so I could actually drive the S4 again. Thank fuck for that!
 
I'll check the passenger side CV again and may end up replacing them both to be on the safe side.
 
I've still got transmission and rear axle fluids to change and cruise control to fit. Oh and the RS4 rear roll bar is in my garage needing fitted. I did say my mojo has been low...
 
Anyone experienced with VCDS? I think I can reprogram it with my version but am not sure. I have the stalk, just need the lower cowling with the cutout for the stalk.
 
Time for the Cougar to get a bit of attention. More to follow...
 

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 04:36 PM

Suspension made out of lolly sticks?Is that what modern cars look like underneath?I've said this before and I'll say it again, what is the fucking world coming to?Ben


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 06:19 PM

Ah, so where were we?

The S4 vibration was getting worse-it was really noticeable on acceleration, getting to the stage it was undriveable.

Googling revealed a few options with the worst case being clutch/flywheel. Mine has had all of his done to cure a vibration in the past. My fettling Mojo was low so the S4 sat for a week or two while I smoked about in the Cougar. One front arm was worn and while I suspected it wasn't the cause I replaced that which made no difference. My Mojo sank further.

I eventually got back underneath it and started with the CV joints-these can go and give similar symptoms allegedly.

Well, what do we have here?

https://youtu.be/05kfFVZmUnE


That was the drivers side inner CV. The vid should show me holding the shaft with one hand (Steady...) while showing the play in the CV with the other. Safe to say that one is fucked.

A bit of Google Fu revealed the same inner CV used across all A4s this shape. I ventured off to my local scrappy to liberate a driveshaft from a breaker. This wasn't as easy as you'd think... The inner CVs are held on to the transmission by 6 bolts. If the cars in one piece then a screwdriver in a vent on the disc will stop the shaft rotating when removing them, of course in the scrappy they were all missing hubs which made things a challenge. I eventually got one removed and headed home.

Old shaft out and dismantled the CV. It shouldn't look like this...

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"New" one was stripped down, cleaned up and assembled and then it was time for a roadtest.

Result! The vibration was gone so I could actually drive the S4 again. Thank fuck for that!

I'll check the passenger side CV again and may end up replacing them both to be on the safe side.

I've still got transmission and rear axle fluids to change and cruise control to fit. Oh and the RS4 rear roll bar is in my garage needing fitted. I did say my mojo has been low...

Anyone experienced with VCDS? I think I can reprogram it with my version but am not sure. I have the stalk, just need the lower cowling with the cutout for the stalk.

Time for the Cougar to get a bit of attention. More to follow...

If you have VCDS issues, let me know, I've got an activated* version of VCDS lite somewhere which will let you code in the CC.

I think you can do it with the trial version though.
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 07:59 PM

Genuine VCDS? If not, then I'd heavily suggest getting one. I used my friends genuine VCDS and it's 1000x more stable than the knock offs. They have reasonable resale value too, so you should get most of your money back. Alternatively get a second hand one.
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 08:10 PM

VCDS sounds something you need to sort with dose of antbiotics after a trip to Magaluf.


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I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 08:11 PM

I have a cracked version of VCDS lite. It reads codes from the S4 fine and gives me various options which I have no idea about. I'll do some homework...



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Posted 29 June 2017 - 08:17 PM

If I'm doing any coding, programming, etc of any ECUs I've learnt that using a genuine tool is a lot less frightful. Remember if it fucks up half way through doing what it's doing when programming/coding it can leave things in a bad state. Sometimes unrecoverable so.

£300 for a genuine one becomes cheap when you've fucked up a module.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:48 AM

Right, back to this fine track weapon(s grade piece of shite)

 

So the rear arm has been replaced, that left the bush on the rear and trying to make the brakes work.

 

So, naturally, we chose to strip it out. Beer may* have been involved.

 

The interiors still in the car.

 

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And now it's not.

 

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Stopped off at a local classic car show afterwards. 

 

A classic ford with racing pedigree, and an old Cortina

 

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And this was on display. Truly the choice of winners.

 

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:59 AM

The tyres on this thing were treacherous on the road, let alone the track. After much classified searching these were purchased and fitted.

 

Toyo T1Rs

 

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Attention turned to the brakes-new pads were fitted, bleeding was next. Despite my best efforts with heat, plusgas and a modicum of swearing the drivers side nipple sheared off.

 

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Luckily* someone had taken the trouble to shear off the passengers side one to save me having to do it myself.

 

In a fit of ingenuity I decided to try and drill them out, tap them and fit new nipples.

 

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This failed.

 

We're waiting for new calipers to arrive.

 

In the meantime I replaced the knackered rear bush.

 

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Insert Cougar bush joke here.

 

 

 

 


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:29 AM

Behold the shiny!

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That's tonight's mission decided. This should be fun

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:55 AM

Behold the shiny!

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That's tonight's mission decided. This should be easy with no issues.

Fixed that for you!

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 10:26 AM

Do you have a mig welder? I have welded pozidrive bits to the stub then wound it out - the heat usually frees it up.




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