garbaldy Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Remember this the Trigger John Wilsonx2 sierra, Sunny April was here so I promptly taxed the old gal and today decided to take it for a hurl since it was full of pez, It is a lovely driving car but by hell its gutless, now since driving it home I have been fighting the sensible side of my brain that is saying leave it the fuck alone but the boy racer side is saying give it more grunt, oh what to do. anyhoo after a 25 mile jaunt I pulled into a mates yard and the damn exhaust only decided it didn't like being suspended under an English ford and made a break for freeeeduummm we stuck it on the lift and apart from the exhaust the underside is pretty damn good, I cut the remaining exhaust flush and slipped on a straight length of spare exhaust to keep hot gasses away from the driveshaft cv joint,After many coffees and much talk of old fords I left for home and the damn car actually goes much better,now I am stuck as I don't want to waste money sticking a new zaust on the car as I am not sure I want to keep it cvh powered, maybe I should just sell it and buy a pinto powered one instead.what say the Autoshite massive, rantingYoof, Jim Bell, trigger and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Oh my god moar sierra love I just can't take it. Take the engine out and put a 2.0 zetec in its place reanimation-films 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthecapriman Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 This place is fast starting look like the Sierra owners forum! That's a good thing! Very nice car, in my opinion the CVH is fine in an Escort or Fiesta but it's not a RWD engine. So, if the body is good and rust free then I'd say if you feel the way you do then change it to a 2.0 pinto. Much much better.Or you could go a bit boy racer on this theme with an upgraded 2.1 pinto with go faster mods? Not necessarily cheap but definitely quicker and more powerfull.Or maybe go for a 2.0 'twink' twin cam engine which was fitted to Sierra's and Granada's of this era? Nowt wrong with doing any of this in my opinion if the body etc is good enough to be worth it. I don't think it'll be very hard to actually do any of this either, it is a Ford after all and they aren't exactly known for being difficult to work on!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 It will be a shame to see it's changed but less than a year ago it was due to be scrapped so the fact it's got this far is very pleasing, I gave Type 9 money for it thinking if the worse came then i can get my money back, after many weekends it ended up being transformed into a decent car, but it was gutless and kept running like shit on me so i lost the love rather quickly. I spoke to my mates about zetecing it but it sounded like a right faff to do so didn't bother, I think with the right engine it could be a better car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I also considered a zetec conversion. And a twin cam conversion. And a pinto conversion. And a v6 conversion. The cvh is very hard to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauserplenty Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just hammer a bigger engine over it. eddyramrod, saucedoctor, dugong and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy18s Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Being a cvh should mean the RS Turbo engine will fit????If you go down the selling route,what sort of price are you thinking. .......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownnova Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Go the other way fit a Ka engine... Urko, dugong, AMC Rebel and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixy Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 2.0 Pinto is the easyist option otherwise you need more parts to turn it into efi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantingYoof Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 ST220 engine conversion? STTDCi engine conversion? The car looks fantastic regardless of the engine. :Dw Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixy Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Zetec's fit but unless you want to spend money or like me make parts that dont exist its not an easy swap , I am in the middle of one at the moment . saucedoctor, reanimation-films and dugong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixy Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Problem with Twincams now is the parts cost and availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 I was thinking zetec but I do like a good pinto, I've wrecked a load of cars in my time but now older and wiser (thats debatable) I'm more for keeping things going More info on the zetec swap would be great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixy Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 First thing to decide is what you want Efi or carb ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Vauxhall red top. Station, sutty2006, dugong and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms206 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 XUD11. Skoze, Urko, dugong and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporty-shite Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Where's Scary? He puts Zetec in RWD cars in minutes*, doesn't he? *only a slight exaggeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercrocker Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Reverse the Morris Minor gearbox conversion drain and fit a 1098 with ribbed gear box in it. Skoze, eddyramrod, Conrad D. Conelrad and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabamaShrimp Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 OMG we've gone all retro rides again! Similar to what trigger said and don't change anything! Look at it this way. There's a red low spec Sierra. You get it and don't like that grill, seats are a bit shit, could do with more power and before you know it a unique car is just the same as the rest. It's lasted a long time as it is. I don't get what all this need for 'more power' is as there's speed limits on everything and tons of traffic and I know it counts for noting but it devalues them to the degree where they won't sell. On the other hand it was going to get scrapped a year ago and it is yours so ultimately it's up to you theorganist, fordperv, Urko and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 This thing is getting closer to me so if you want to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 The need for more power comes from the fact it doesn't like to accelerate and by the time your up to 60 then you have to slow down again and then the cycle repeats, I know 60 is not a target but driving around at 40 is not for me, at least not till I'm 70 anyway. If you don't like it then there's two options 1 you can stay clear of this thread and all my other fix it threads.2 I can stop posting about it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-M Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 ST170 Zetec lump. CVH Sierras were always gutless and you've already got the bell housing and sump to fit the Zetec. More power than a Pinto with less vibration. Win win. If I'd had a few more quid when I had the Escort I'd have bought this Sierra just for the box, bellhousing and sump. dugong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 That ST170 conversion is so tempting as you can pick up rusty ones for a few hundred quid. I'd love to put one in my Cortina if it weren't for time/skills/money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucedoctor Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Vauxhall red top.Good call this would be easier than a zetec but the only downside is the initial cost of the engine then the cost of the conversion parts on top of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Go big or go home. Ford Modular V8. danthecapriman and rantingYoof 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 There's only one real solution. 2.06 onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabamaShrimp Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 The need for more power comes from the fact it doesn't like to accelerate and by the time your up to 60 then you have to slow down again and then the cycle repeats, I know 60 is not a target but driving around at 40 is not for me, at least not till I'm 70 anyway. If you don't like it then there's two options 1 you can stay clear of this thread and all my other fix it threads.2 I can stop posting about it here.What the fuck! You ask for opinions and when you get one different from what you think you get a shit on? As I said I honestly don't give a shit what you do with it as it's your car but there's no need for any attitude like that. fordperv, D Spares & Tyres, adw1977 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Indenor turbo diesel. HMC and cms206 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 OMG we've gone all retro rides again! Similar to what trigger said and don't change anything! Look at it this way. There's a red low spec Sierra. You get it and don't like that grill, seats are a bit shit, could do with more power and before you know it a unique car is just the same as the rest. It's lasted a long time as it is. I don't get what all this need for 'more power' is as there's speed limits on everything and tons of traffic and I know it counts for noting but it devalues them to the degree where they won't sell. On the other hand it was going to get scrapped a year ago and it is yours so ultimately it's up to youI can also see this valid side of the argument, i think what the op's angle is he isn't keeping up with BMW and audi drivers, i am guilty for making "improvements" to cars and can say it becomes a slippery slope to which there can be a point of no return as with drivability for daily use is concerned AlabamaShrimp and reanimation-films 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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