1972 Triumph Toledo 1300 - £1300 ono

[JohnK]

Reluctantly selling this but the arrival of another 70's car in the fleet (mid fleet reduction) really should see this moving on to somebody else.

 

I bought it last year from an old boy and his son.

 

It runs and drives absolutely ace, engine is sound and will be serviced tomorrow.

41k showing, it's recently had some clutch adjustment and it now drives a lot nicer than it did.

Underside has been caked in old engine oil and all sorts - it's absolutely solid!

 

It's in fairly good shape for its age, it has had a blowover when the previous keeper had it, it's far from perfect but it's a good 10 footer. Some bubbling at the base of the doors but otherwise nothing major and some chrome pitting.

 

Interior carpet could ideally do with replacing and the seats would need a deep clean if you wanted to be picky. It's pretty sparse in there!

 

I've got some history with it and also rosettes from shows the old boy had taken it to.

Breezed it's MOT with 0 advisories so is now tested until Feb 2017.

 

In short she's ready to get in and drive and use over the summer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[brownnova]

Oooh now that really is lovely!!

[trigger]

Well worth the money for a tax free summer runabout.

[JohnK]

Aye tax exempt and something ridiculous like £85 for a years classic insurance. At them prices nobody can use the excuse of not being able to afford running a second car.

[MarvinsMom]

now that is a really bonny little car, glws unless i buy it!

 

which at that asking price the car is a steal!!! 

 

it is lovely. 

[Fabergé Greggs]

Is this kinda useable on the motorway? Does it have overdrive? What kinda revs are we talking at 65mph?

 

eeekk

[cort16]

lovely

[captain_70s]

Is this kinda useable on the motorway? Does it have overdrive? What kinda revs are we talking at 65mph?

 

eeekk

For a Dolly 1300 you'd be spinning at around 4,000rpm+ at 65mph in top gear, Toledo has the same engine/gearbox/diff but is a touch lighter...

 

To be honest without an O/D unit I wouldn't even bother with regular motorway use although it'd probably handle the usage better than the more powerful 1500cc lump which likes to eat it's main bearings if sustained high revs are a regular occurrence. I used to sit my Dolly 1300 at 70-75mph on the dual carriage way and I'm sure it'd hack it but I always felt guilty!

 

This car really looks like a bargain though, my 1300 was £1400 (haggled from £1600) and is a complete heap...

[JohnK]

I've had her sat at 65mph on A roads with no major issues. She's not overly noisy, but there's no over drive.

 

If I hadn't bought this new mystery car I would have been taking this Toledo to shitefest and wouldn't have had any issues with doing nearly 500 miles in a weekend in it.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

This is SWEET! Mrs_N.Sack defo WOULD, but I'd end up paying the actual £££ for it probably.

[Squire_Dawson]

So the burning question is, what's the new shite?

[JohnK]

All will soon be revealed.

 

Hopefully it won't be a massive anti-climax and leave you all disappointed.

[Fabergé Greggs]

Soo, umm, you definitely don't want a BX Diesel wagon in part ex? 

 

I've been hankering after a new daily for a while...

[JohnK]

Whilst I would usually be open to discussing a part ex deal, I really do need to downsize the fleet a little bit - I can just about justify my latest purchase on a 'one out, one in' basis unfortunately.

[stripped fred]

I'm interested in this JohnK. I would need to sell my mr2 first though. I want something I can take my son's out in occasionally and tax exempt is a bonus. Does it have rear seat belts?

[JohnK]

No rear belts, although all of the mountings are there to fit them. It was going to be something to do if I was keeping it with having 2 little ones as well; Mrs JohnK has never been overly happy about the 18month old being in the front secured in his seat with a belt whilst her and the 5 year old were chucked in the back with no restraints. She specifically used the term that she didn't like 'being bounced around in the back of it' now whilst I would happily oblige with making this true she later confirmed that I drive like a dick and therefore it was meant in no other sense than that.

[stripped fred]

OK, I'll look into it. Will give it some thought. Looks a nice car though. I take it that it's the base model. Not much on that dash!

[JohnK]

Yeah it's basically a steering wheel, gear lever and switches for lights, wipers and heaters!

[purplebargeken]

That's all anyone got in a Toledo. They are charming little cars, easy to fix and maintain. 

 

John's Tolly seems bloody good in all of the important places. 

 

The carpet can be easily replaced in a weekend. Coverdale do a good set for about 130 quid. The seats are a 4 bolt and they're out thing. The rears lift out/undo a couple of screws. 

 

They are ace!

[JohnK]

The carpets from Coverdale do look really good value - I was going to buy one and chuck it in. Still might do if I change my mind!

 

I'm just off out for a run in her actually!

[Fabergé Greggs]

Would it be possible to see some more detailed pics of engine bay, interior, shabby bits etc?

 

Also, BX... go on go on go on go on 

[Tamworthbay]

Have the tyres and clutch been changed?

[Richard]

Yeah it's basically a steering wheel, gear lever and switches for lights, wipers and heaters!

 

That's pretty much all you got at any level on 60s/early 70s family cars. The top model might sprout a few extra gauges but other than that all you got was posher materials.

[JohnK]

Have the tyres and clutch been changed?

Tyres are practically new, clutch hasn't been changed as it didn't need it but it no longer Judders like it did when I bought it and is nice and smooth.

[Richard]

If you take that out of the quote boxes the pictures should show.

 

 

 

Decided that I would turn this into a more general thread to keep up to date with the fleet in general and not just Rovers.

Starting with themed Rover news however, the silver 214 has put in sterling service this week. I've worked out it will probably cost me about 10-15 quid a week more to run than the Civic CTDi. Add in that I claim mileage for all work based driving this is negligible so I am going to sell the Honda and use the Rover as a daily.

Rob did advertise it as needing rear tyres and until today I hadn't realise just how bad the perishing was and not something I'm willing to risk 2 children in.



With this in mind, I've now parked it up and stuck the Civic back on the road - I would rather put up with the knackered exhaust and loose heat shield as opposed to risking a blowout. This means that I really do need to get my backside into gear and visit Joe in Costa del Malhamdale to pick up the scrapper 216. That can donate some much needed rimmage to get mine safe again. I can then fix the Civic's faults and flog it.

Moving away from Rover's for a bit, some of you may remember a few months ago I picked up a Triumph Toledo. Story behind this is that I have been fancying a small Triumph such as a Toledo or Dolomite for a while. A mate spotted this on Car & Classic for sale locally one Sunday evening and after a couple of phone calls, arrangements were made for me to view it the next day.

The owner was a proper old boy who knew the car inside out. He had done lots of preventative maintenance work on it alongside his son who was a joint owner, but ultimately old age for the guy and his son being made redundant meant this was no longer needed. Not one to exploit such a situation, but understanding that business is business and the son was strapped for cash, I bid the car down by just over 500 notes to get it well into 3 figure territory and drove it away with its 2 months MOT, after I had taxed it for £FREE.

I had it out a few times for enjoyable bumbles through the North Yorkshire Moors and over to Whitby one day for fish & chips.
MOT ran out last month and it has been parked up since.

Dragged it out this morning:



Here's what South Cleveland Garages (Reg Vardy Rover) looked like in 1995 when Mr BL-Mad picked his brand new 214 up after 23 years of faithful Toledo service:



It's a good 10-footer that's for sure











Not perfect up close to be honest - it has had a cheap blowover in the past and its poor quality, orange peel and runs apparent. Tried to capture it in this pic of the roof but it hasn't come out great



Probably the only major noticeable bit of grot



Sills have seen a paintbrush



Chrome pitted



No major plans at present with the bodywork as it will do and adds to the character. Car seems solid though

Floors



Inner wings



Wheels in good nick too



Underneath is caked in underseal which has no doubt helped this little motor stay alive, but everything underneath is just heavily coated with the stuff. I will remove it and check everything out in detail.

Interior is basic, but nice -



Not loads to do on the interior, it does need a clean though







This cardboard shelf is knackered - I am going to replicate the full lot by using this as a template but the replacement will be wood that will be covered in black vinyl



Carpet has been fobbed together at some point, cut, repaired, the footwell carpets got damaged by a leak in the past and replaced with black etc - full lot will come out and be replaced in full -



Engine purrs like a kitten, runs and drives beautifully



Genuine mileage



Proof it won a category at a local car show. And some history




Needs some electrical connection issues sorting to get it through a test but touch wood shouldn't have any issues.

It needs very little mechanically, just a good service, bosh a clutch in as it is shagged and rear suspension needs a bit of a check over. Plans over the next few months are to do this and just give the interior a good clean up, install rear seat belts to be child friendly for the 2 sods and put a stereo in it.
Bonnet cable to be replaced too as it is a fucker to open (hence why it is open and staying open in the pics above).

My main work over the next few months is to work on one of my E23's, which I will detail here too alongside progress for this.

[JohnK]

Diamond Richard, cheers. Doing it on my phone wasn't the best idea so was just gonna link to the Post instead.

 

Anyway that's more detailed pics taken from elsewhere on the forum.

[purplebargeken]

The seating and door panel vinyl on these is tough stuff and will respond well to being cleaned with 1001 spray on cleaner, scrubbed hard and then wiped off. The headlining has the usual old glue gone brown thing. Solution is to give it a couple of wipes with meths, let is dry and vent, then using a good quality small fluffy roller, paint it with a couple of coats of boggo vinyl silk emulsion. Use a small brush for the seams and edges. It will make it look like new without obscuring any of the grain in the material. Have done this about 3 times on various small Triumphs and it really does make a huge amount of difference and is piss easy. Take off the sun visors, rear view mirror (be careful as they are fragile) and other gubbins to get the best result. Ford Ka rear view mirrors are the same size but stick onto the screen and don't look out of place. Replace as many fasteners with stainless, this will bode well for the future. Clean as many earth points as you can find as they are responsible for most electrical FTP. 

 

LED bulbs in the sidelights give a brighter light. Dash planks are straightforward to take out but the clock connections can be fiddly. Front shelving can be fiddly and finding a better one is not easy. Millboard can be bought easily if you fancy having a go at DIY.

 

MGF steelie spares will fit and give a better choice of tyre and fill the wheel arch better. 

 

Oh John, why did you buy the *******************!

[JohnK]

I've just taken it for a run down to the Crematorium to see Mother_JohnK and now off for a run out before going for lunch.

 

Somebody buy it before I change my mind and keep it! She's a lovely little car.

 

And Ken, I've bought *********** because I've been fancying one for a while!

[purplebargeken]

Terrible excuse mate, just terrible lol. 

[purplebargeken]

Why you'd want a lime green Lada is beyond me. Ooops!