The Moog Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Had a 3am thought that maybe I am an idiot (no maybe about it) and that changing the glow plugs I might have left one loose hence chug-a-lug. So late tonight with aid of head torch had a check and ....... Nope. All done up tight. Nothing loose or any hoses not connected. From cold it is fine, once hot it is surges from 600 - 1000. On FCF there is a rebuild guide for the epic pump which frankly scares the shit out of me. Apparently you can just change 4 seals with pump in situ which might manageable. Alternatively it is change to Bosch pump but that is a bit of an arse. For £500 I can get c5 hdi with mot. Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Lobbed a bid on a 406 estate located in Preston. - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-406-hdi/222927635011?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649 No one else bid please puddlethumper, Bucketeer, Tickman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketeer Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Fix a broken car by buying another. I approve. Lacquer Peel and eddyramrod 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Well hoping I can swap wheels over and see if there are any other bits that will swap then frag the first one - or offer it on here if anyone fancies it. The pump rebuild on FCF looked very scary and probably not worth it on the roffle pug. Swap to Bosch is a bit involved as elctronicals are part of EPIC pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hood down Mx5 on the drive to work today, with Roni Size blasting out so da kidz know I am cool, I am definitely not a fat 40 year old man in a smoll red car having a midlife crisis. issue with MX5 is that it has started idling badly. Coming to stop at traffic lights the idle drops to about 200 and then fluctates from 1200 - 200 and back again. Dont finish work till 9 30pm tonight so hoping that it is something simple that I can fix tomorrow morning before wandering over to closer to Blyton Park . Dave_Q, dave21478, Shep Shepherd and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 give it a blast of carb cleaner? Might be gummed up throttle body butterfly? If not already doing so, stick some posh fuel in before taking it around Blyton, that might help too? The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 My Mk2 MX-5 1.8 did the same. Carb cleaner into the throttle body helped. The Moog and Tickman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 give the throttle body a blast of carb cleaner and check the base idle is set at around 850rpm. open the diagnostic box, identify TEN (test engine) and GND, bridge the two with a paperclip and tweak the idle adjust screw. ideally, you want the idle not to change when you remove the paperclip. if you have a timing light, check for about 14degrees before tdc. and then take it out for a thrashing The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketeer Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Buy another MX5? NorthernMonkey, The Moog, sporty-shite and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hood down Mx5 on the drive to work today, with Roni Size blasting out so da kidz know I am cool, I am definitely not a fat 40 year old man in a smoll red car having a midlife crisis. I was walking through town at lunch and some chap had his music on really loud. It was Madonna's Holiday. I was waiting for it to be some sort of remix with some rapper over the top of it but no, he was proper booming out the original Holiday like it was 1983. I'm not in any strong position to talk blasting out my 'Dad techno' whilst driving my granddad car but it did stand out a bit amongst all the other cars causing the sunny weather noise pollution. beko1987, Dick Longbridge and The Moog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 give the throttle body a blast of carb cleaner and check the base idle is set at around 850rpm. open the diagnostic box, identify TEN (test engine) and GND, bridge the two with a paperclip and tweak the idle adjust screw. ideally, you want the idle not to change when you remove the paperclip. if you have a timing light, check for about 14degrees before tdc. and then take it out for a thrashing The wire for bridging it is also present in the diagnostic box. gm and The Moog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Fixed* idle Supernaut, gm, Tickman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 One can of carb cleaner later and no different. Loads of gunk came out. It is just when revved and then returning to idle seems to be issue. Sprayed all-round with cleaner and idle didn't change. Will look at resetting idle tomorrow if get a chance - otherwise I will just live with it until later. Not sure how I ever survived with hose clamp pliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Took the wee beastie out for a run this morning and idle is back to normal. So I will call that a result. Only thing I did notice was fumes from exhaust manifold - perhaps a gasket is needed (or wait till drunk Will buys a whole new exhaust for sober Will). I just closed the bonnet. Tyre pressures checked - toolkit assembled and off to Doncaster way ready for track tomorrow. puddlethumper, dome, Bucketeer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (or wait till drunk Will buys a whole new exhaust for sober Will). This is the only sensible option really. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Well hoping I can swap wheels over and see if there are any other bits that will swap then frag the first one - or offer it on here if anyone fancies it. The pump rebuild on FCF looked very scary and probably not worth it on the roffle pug. Swap to Bosch is a bit involved as elctronicals are part of EPIC pump.When the lads on the veg oil diesel forum were doing it they used a late Xantia/406 1.9 TD Bosch pump and its primitive ECU. Think it's plug and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 One can of carb cleaner later and no different. Loads of gunk came out. It is just when revved and then returning to idle seems to be issue. Sprayed all-round with cleaner and idle didn't change. Will look at resetting idle tomorrow if get a chance - otherwise I will just live with it until later.Not sure how I ever survived with hose clamp pliersIMG_20180419_203626.jpgIn your pic above, what is attached to the vacuum take offs in the top right corner ? They should be looped / blocked, if you have a leak it would bugger up the idle. Here's Brown Bear looking for vacuum leaks - is the looped clear tube still there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 Yep still got looped tube - being clear it is hard to see Is brown bear available to hire for vacuum leak testing? Dick Longbridge and gm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 Pug 406 got bids raised to over mine and now has been retracted. I assume this is to find my maximum. Can I lower my max bid in anyway? Still want the car but don't want someone bidding up to my max to Schill me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I think you have to contact eBay now. I had to contact a seller who retracted bid for me. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Journey home from the track was interesting. First half was glorious weather, top down, headphones in - enjoying the wind in the hair feeling. Don't stop me now! On way back the black clouds loomed and started to rain. Hurriedly I pulled over to put hood up - I was decidedly feeling smug having beaten the rain - the show must go on. On the motorway when suddenly the car turned into a snarling monster. Did all the usual test - did the handling change, did it disappear when clutch push in, did a different gear effect it, does it change with revs etc. It sounds like hammer was to fall. Limped off the motorway and into a business park. Hoping I wasn't going radio gaga Sounds fruity https://youtu.be/TN0f0p1Xeok Quick look underneath - ahh. The exhaust Wants to break free... A root through the car and it was a kind of magic - the solution. Hackage began - we want the car to live forever Also found this is the box of tricks - surely the princes of the universe were smiling Up in air Mashed into putty and stuffed to hold exhaust then tin cable ties on top (only thing I had and thought gaffer tape might catch fire) - these definitely were the days of my life. Extra exhaust hanger fashioned to help take weight. Just check how long the drying time is 8 hours! Of course doing the calculations and then seeing as they would factor in a safety element, I reckoned that by the time I had finished my steak pie it would definitely* be cured. That would be a breakthru Our finished - time to start the carhttps://youtu.be/SROKEgM2LHo That sounds fixerated. We are indeed the champions Btw that rain I avoided earlier - I had now been drenched from head to foot. Smugness gone. Just in case the bodge didn't hold extra measure taken - headphones in and helmet on. It held for a full five minutes before back to what it was. I don't think pie curing time is correct. The last 20 mins sounded like this https://youtu.be/QE1sqpCNkgs and the vibrations definitely kept me under pressure. Mx5 now needs a new exhaust. Tempted to go decat. I think the idle shenanigans was the air leak on the O2 sensor.VID_20180422_120430.mp4VID_20180422_112320.mp4VID_20180422_113156.mp4 gm, dave21478, Bucketeer and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 You are the champion of breakdown threads. Top work.Now buy a free flowing exhaust so your engine is Under (less back) Pressure... The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I didn't know Brian May had died The Moog, Dick Longbridge and Jim Bell 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernMonkey Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I didn't know Brian May had diedWhat an epitaph though...someone using your grave to bodge a coffee tin onto a knackered MX5 exhaust. It’s what he’d have wanted...(assuming of course he was a fan of slightly shonky 90s Japanese sports cars) The Moog, 320touring, Dick Longbridge and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 on your way back from a trackday with strict noise limits - you are indeed a lucky bugger ! now, if only you had a welder, you could* fix* that have a look on moss.co.uk for exhaust options, cobalt systems are pretty good and reasonably priced. a decat is a good option, I ran with one for several years, but keep the cat incase you need to reduce noise levels for trackdays (knockhill aren't too fussy but others are) The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 you might get away with having a flexi welded in there and save the expense of the manifold ? worth asking around perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 you might get away with having a flexi welded in there and save the expense of the manifold ? worth asking around perhapsHaving a Google it is a different exhaust as is a 421 and downpipe in one. I assume you have changed it? I can get stainless replacement from eBay for about £130 Then just leave cat and rest of exhaust alone for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketeer Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I'm glad I'm not the only idiot who had to repair an exhaust with cable ties and whatever metal tube was to hand recently. Mine lasted about a week though, so we can conclude that Strongbow cans are better/stronger/exhaustier than Nescafé Azera cans. The Moog, puddlethumper and Dave_Q 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Noted for next time! Will make Dome happy - no shoddy coffee cans. dome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Having a Google it is a different exhaust as is a 421 and downpipe in one. I assume you have changed it? I can get stainless replacement from eBay for about £130Then just leave cat and rest of exhaust alone for now.Correct, you currently have a fancy-dan jdmyo jasma 4-2-1 manifold / downpipe which replaced the standard 4-1 manifold and separate downpipe, an eBay replacement should be just the job or second hand standard bits should be cheap enough. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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