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#1171 OFFLINE   The Moog

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:22 PM

Unplugged MAF and the car would go to 2500rmp then no more power, so not that. I think it is slow.

Not helped by getting in it after been treated to a blast in GMs Mx5. I think I have a go faster box sitting at home now - will plug it in when I get back.

Fuel wise it seems ok, got 340 to half a tank so far.

The key is actually getting worse over the day. Seems odd that it has just started today. Oh well.
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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:34 PM

A bit late, but by heck that Rover is a honey. Needs pairing up with the FTP 200 just for number plate LOLs.

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#1173 OFFLINE   Tickman

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:43 PM

Not helped by getting in it after been treated to a blast in GMs Mx5.


He did that to me, what did you leave with?

I left with a car...
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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:53 PM

A shopping list. As always...

Plus set of track tyres and a welder.

And crossed off V6 conversion

Added on roll bar
And brake brace
Etc
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#1175 OFFLINE   Tickman

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:55 PM

A shopping list. As always...

Plus set of track tyres and a welder.

And crossed off V6 conversion

Added on roll bar
And brake brace
Etc


Not a lot then...
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Posted 03 August 2018 - 10:11 PM

And some driver tution ... Or many more track days.

Also won a new* gearbox on eBay today for the princely sum of £30. Hoping it will fix the 4th gear crunch. So will end up sticking in a new clutch at the same time.
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Posted 03 August 2018 - 11:26 PM

And I'm now trying to figure out a way to get to the Enid Blyton track day - I've already got hols booked for the end of september to go and do stupid running stuff but may have to cancel and get some stupid car stuff done instead.

Glad you enjoyed a wee shot of the mazda, wait 'til you see what it can do on track :)
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Posted 04 August 2018 - 07:43 AM

do stupid running stuff


GM have you tried running, but on a mountain bike? It's far more fun. Having seen how you drive, you'd be a natural ;)
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:05 PM

Was hoping to get the Rover in for a MOT today but it needs quite a lot doing to it before then. So MOT is on hold for a week.

eBay was employed to the full and ordered battery (£35 delivered)
water coolant sensor (£3)
Thermostat (£6)
Air filter (£5)
Bosch sparkplugs (£7 for 4)
Fuel filter (£5)
Oil filter (£3)
Rotor arm (£3)

On to buy list are a distributor cap and HT leads at some point.

Njgleeds has kindly given me a set of new(old) tyres that are newer than the Yugoslavian Tigars that are on the beast.

I need to also do an oil change and coolant flush plus find the exhaust leak before the mot.

406 news - aside from the ignition issues it performed faultlessly over 700 miles at the weekend.

Then the central locking has decided to lock and then unlock. I tried adjusting the striker plates on the doors to ensure that they were closing properly. Seems to have fixed it for now

To celebrate I fitted the stereo that AS secret Santa gave me. For the princely sum of £8 I ordered a fascia plate, iso leads, antenna connector and radio removal keys.

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It challenge is that the two lives I think are the wrong way round so it loses memory and has a permanent live. Will fix that tomorrow.

Got loads of old stereos now knocking about so will stick them on shitecycle tomorrow as they are cluttering up the garage.

Getz has got a new MOT now that a front subframe has been fitted. The rear arches need vactcan treatment as they are getting a bit scabby

The Mx5 - just works.

Saab 900 - awaiting collection and fettling. Will move the Rover on once it is tested and then can bring this over.

Other news - now have a sparkly stick machine. I need to get some metal and start having a practice
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:30 PM

The Mx5 - just works.


Good to hear after the work you have put into it.

Other news - now have a sparkly stick machine. I need to get some metal and start having a practice


I look forward to the pictures of progress.
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:07 PM

Headrest covers are Halfords Panorama right?


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:30 PM

Peugeot got PAS change as the steering was getting quite heavy. Fluid colour of coffee

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Slurps
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Then topped up with fresh. Feels 100000% better.

Air flow in the car has been a bit shit. Better check cabin filter.

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Errrrr that isn't good. Perhaps it is betterer inside.
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Nah. Probably got the plague. Luzzed it into Blackburn as they have the plague already. New one ordered.

Rover has a new set of pixies
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£35 delivered next day from ebay. What a world we live in.

And this I am hoping has a better 4th gear than the one in the current box. Probably half the weight of the mx5
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All the Rover bits have arrived at Argos from eBay so will crack on with that tomorrow.


And more importantly I did a buyage. Cost less than £300! All revealed tomorrow.
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Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:55 PM

Due to demand from Neils -a clue is that it has runflats.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:59 PM

And more importantly I did a buyage. Cost less than £300! All revealed tomorrow.


Safety related?

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 09:00 PM

Safety related?

Nope. Is vehicle with wheels and everything.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 09:05 PM

Nope. Is vehicle with wheels and everything.


Well done :)
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:17 AM

The big reveal

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:23 AM

Ha! Brilliant!


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:24 AM

Ideal for autotesting I'd wager
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:26 AM

Ideal for autotesting I'd wager

I almost put that as a clue but wouldnt be quick enough.
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:29 AM

I almost put that as a clue but would be too quick for me.


FTFY ;-)
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:32 AM

FTFY ;-)

Yeah but it's an automatic - did I mention that?
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:36 AM

Yeah but it's an automatic - did I mention that?


In that case, winner!
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 05:37 PM

All these bits came today for the rover.
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Total cost was £34 for everything.

Car has been stinking of petrol so a service and coolant sensor change.

Time to crack on with it
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Plugs out.
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Looks like it needs a new cam gasket.
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Thermostat next -many gaskets to choose from b15e86ce2a6aecf0a931931f852f56a4.jpg
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Sparky end now
Cap looks ok
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Had a rotor to swap over
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This is where it all went wrong - the rotor arm would just spin. 1e0d98559d46fa60a64faf47154cef6b.jpg34e60d2176df9e3fc0e0e36cdda06496.jpg

It looks like the end of the camshaft may have snapped - I took expert advice and will wait for car to cool down then take off camcover to have a look.

It might be the reason for the petrol smell for the green beastie.

Luckily there are brand new camshafts on eBay for £40!
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Posted 11 August 2018 - 12:16 PM

Bright and early I got on with the important things in life - removing the cam cover for the 820

The beauty of having more recycling bins is a larger work area

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Cover off
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Someone has been in here before
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First challenge is the back plate for the dizzy cap. One bolt is stuck fast
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Steps were taken. I removed the cambelt cover and ensured that timing marks were clear. Then just cut the belt as it is going to be replaced anyway.
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This allowed enough room to wiggle the camshaft off
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This is the stuck bolt which will have to be drilled out
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The broken bit
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It looks like it is held in with rubber which has just disintegrates over time.

Camshaft itself looks ok
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Will need to clean all the sealant off
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A good use for a bag for life
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I have been pretty organised with bolts. Normally I put them back in the area so I know where they go
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The rest go into cardboard
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Now to look at cooling of the car

Undertray off - someones 10mm
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Expansion tank is minging
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Rinsed then bleached
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Much better.

Rad out
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Flushed with hose
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Got loads of rusty water out. Overall it is in pretty good nick. Just a little crispy at the bottom where it mounts
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Wire brushed and then Krusted
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Left in sun to dry. Then will paint it black

Connector was a little furry so cleaned with fibreglass pencil
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One thing I will say is that it is a very easy car to work on. All the bolts bar two came out easy enough.

Current job list is

Drill out the bolt on dizzy backing plate
Clean up all mating surfaces then
Buy and fit replacement exhaust cam shaft, new oil seals,
Buy and fit cambelt kit and water pump,
paint the rad and refit
Find the exhaust blow
Change tyres for new (old ones)
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Posted 11 August 2018 - 10:41 PM

Jesus fuck, and I thought my old 200 was bad for sealant in the cooling system. 

 

That's INSANE.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:04 PM

Great progress. Good to see you've had a good experience of a battery delivered from an on-line order.

I'm a regular user of on-line for car parts but have never managed to brave a battery order.

Fear of 'Damaged Held Lost' , 'Parcel Farce' or 'Damaged Parlcels Deluvered' tipping the fekker upside down so that when you open the package, battery acid pisses out over everything in sight has prevented me from ordering.
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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:14 AM

I think that most of the gloop is the stuff I chucked in to get the car home. Not so concerned about that - more concerned the amount of rust in the water - that rust is effectively bits of engine that have corroded.


Never had an issue with batteries delivered. They are normally packaged week, wrapped and sealed in a strong plastic bag. The breathing plugs are sealed - to stop anything leaking out.
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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:26 AM

Great progress. Good to see you've had a good experience of a battery delivered from an on-line order.

I'm a regular user of on-line for car parts but have never managed to brave a battery order.

Fear of 'Damaged Held Lost' , 'Parcel Farce' or 'Damaged Parlcels Deluvered' tipping the fekker upside down so that when you open the package, battery acid pisses out over everything in sight has prevented me from ordering.

I've had half a dozen batteries from Tayna in the last 5 years, never had so much as a dent in the outer packaging and the batteries are cocooned in expanded polystyrene; whoever their courier is they know what they're doing.
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