Isaac Hunt Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Fix that spacer with Araldite. Clean up,the hole, fill it full of Araldite. When set, drill the Araldite plug and countersink. The other fixing is going to stop it going anywhere. If the 'fix' doeasn't work then there is the Rimmer Bros route. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 I did think that - but wasn't sure how much of a bodge it would be. The spacers are £20 so not the earth but might try it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 My Dad fixed an indicator stalk with Araldite whilst we were on holiday in Italy once. Upon return to the UK a new indicator stalk was purchased. The new unit is still in its box on the shelf and the repaired unit is still on the car and working fine. The repair was in 1974, must have been a proper quality bodge. But as you say, it is only £20 and at best that will get you a couple of randoms in the next rofule chodweaver, The Moog, Shep Shepherd and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 But as you say, it is only £20 and at best that will get you a couple of randoms in the next rofuleLuckily I am sworn off roffles at the moment... Twitches... Shakes slightly HMC, chodweaver, warninglight and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodweaver Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Nice updates. A most worthy patient. What's not to like! (Head for garage hoping to find ones own mojo. Fail and put the kettle on. Again) The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Luckily I am sworn off roffles at the moment... Twitches... Shakes slightlyYou best order up the new b racket thingy cos if you save the £20 it may lead you not into temptation The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 crazy MF fondler weirdo The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Whens a free car not a free car is the life long question. Just ordered a camshaft and associated bits including cam belt. Most of it is general service stuff to be fair but the costs mount up quickly. This is why I never keep track normally! Current Rover spent list is £0 Car £0 Tyres £36.00 Battery £8.00 Waterpump £39.00 Camshaft £4.00 Rotor arm £8.00 Sparkplugs £3.00 Coolant sensor - gauge £6.00 air filter £6.00 thermostat £64.00 Rimmers - Bolt, oil filler cap, timing belt, tensioner, cam gasket, oil seals £20.00 oil £15.00 Coolant £7.00 Coolant sensor £216.00 Total Will need exhaust patching (or depending on state some of it replacing) to get through MOT at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernMonkey Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Whens a free car not a free car is the life long question. Just ordered a camshaft and associated bits including cam belt. Most of it is general service stuff to be fair but the costs mount up quickly. This is why I never keep track normally! Current Rover spent list is £0 Car £0 Tyres £36.00 Battery £8.00 Waterpump £39.00 Camshaft £4.00 Rotor arm £8.00 Sparkplugs £3.00 Coolant sensor - gauge £6.00 air filter £6.00 thermostat £64.00 Rimmers - Bolt, oil filler cap, timing belt, tensioner, cam gasket, oil seals £20.00 oil £15.00 Coolant £7.00 Coolant sensor £216.00 Total Will need exhaust patching (or depending on state some of it replacing) to get through MOT at the very least.Ah, yes but... Feeling of smugness when sat along side some prick in a PCPd Audi that costs half as much again every month just to borrow from VAG so they can fund legal hate mail to Vulg and knowing your big green lump of longbridge loveliness will get you home just as quickly and probably in more comfort.....Priceless Shirley Knott, Shep Shepherd, Supernaut and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Shepherd Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Exactly! The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 As pointed out above it was worth trying to fix the dizzy spacer plate and save £30. Filled with putty and hole drilled in it. Then a case of countersinking the screw Once roughly there. Cleaned it up Then some go faster black Once dried didn't look too bad Last time left the radiator covered in krust. Gave it a quick brush back and then a coat of black Comes up a treat. Safety hound has got a rover addiction. Wandered out to see what I was doing Then sat waiting for me to let him in the back seat for his sleep 406 showed up some codes yesterday EGR was unplugged hence that code. MAF was removed and sprayed with electrical contact cleaner. Doesn't seem to have made any difference although the code went. New MAF ordered as only £30 - there goes the saving dome, rainagain, Bucketeer and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Shepherd Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Two lovely old Rovers there ^^ The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 dog better looking and quieter The Moog and Cavcraft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJay Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Luckily I am sworn off roffles at the moment... Twitches...Shakes slightly Ha Ha Ha sporty-shite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Ha Ha Ha It was entered prior to my giving up your honour! chodweaver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Slightly shiny things came today Some surface rust which needs to be taken back a bit but has the important bit intact Stanky, Exiled_Tat_Gatherer and Supernaut 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Couple of hours ago this turned up Ignoring all the important jobs I cracked on with it. New camshaft cleaned and oiled. You can see the wear on the old one Then the mating surfaces were carefully cleaned before reassembly At which point I realised what a bellend I had been. In my haste to take out the bolts I had take the head bolts for this side out. I have put them back in and torqued to correct number in correct sequence. I am not sure if it is going to effect it or not. Whilst flustered I also managed to break the timing belt cover - will see if I can find another one. After cup of tea I set to putting the camshaft in. After 20 mins of trying I have called it quits. It won't sit flat in the head. I don't want to force it by doing the bolts up unless someone says that is ok There is a gap both sides and it isn't obviously caught on anything. I checked with old camshaft and that is the same. (I know it is missing oil seals and also will need a smear of sealant) Any hints or tips? To feel some success I changed to the new oil cap. Also found this in HBOL Bucketeer and chodweaver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Don't take this as gospel put there's usually a procedure in tightening camshaft bolts similar to a cylinder head. this will gradually pull the cam down onto the valves. What does the HBOL say? The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I Don't take this as gospel put there's usually a procedure in tightening camshaft bolts similar to a cylinder head. this will gradually pull the cam down onto the valves. What does the HBOL say?That. When you fit the cam it has to compress some valve springs in that setup. Doing it in the right order means you don't strip threads or bend the shaft. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just feels like a massive gap Instructions Number two question what is a patch bolt? Hbol says there are two types But they are all the same Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Not successful Fucksticks Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geep Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Did you make sure the cam timing marks were correct if the crankshaft was on the tdc mark or that all 4 pistons were midway whilst it was fitted? If installing it in a different position to the old one when removed, it might have opened a valve as it was tightened that then came in to contact with a piston, therefore no further movement and ended as it did. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Did you make sure the cam timing marks were correct if the crankshaft was on the tdc mark or that all 4 pistons were midway whilst it was fitted? If installing it in a different position to the old one when removed, it might have opened a valve as it was tightened that then came in to contact with a piston, therefore no further movement and ended as it did.Simple answer is no. That sounds like what I have done. Can't find any heads so will see if I can get it welded up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Fucksocks The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Spoke to a local place and they said to bring it in next week and they can weld it up - so not the end of the world and a lesson learnt. Tickman, RobT, chaseracer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketeer Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 so not the end of the world and a lesson learnt.Shit situation but that's defo the best way to look at it. The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3VOM Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Luckily I am sworn off roffles at the moment... Twitches...Shakes slightlyYou could give them up anytime you wanted, couldn't you? The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 You could give them up anytime you wanted, couldn't you?Absolutely.... Just after the next one gadgetgricey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Bollocks. Have a beer and forget about it for a while. Go and play with your 4 legged Rover The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 The patch bolt is the one with a patch of preapplied threadlock type gunk. You can see it in the HBOL picture. Yours look like they were patch treated, you can see some of the compound left in the threads. Just clean the threads up and put threadlock on (guessing that HBOL tells you to put it on plain bolts but not patch ones) The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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