UltraWomble Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 so would one winter kill it and how badly do they leak?From Bob the Morris man, no one winter ouldnt kill it, but like any old BL tin you need to routinely maintain it - grease the nipples, change the oil and every summer rub down and re treat the woodwork with a decent preservative such as sikkens. The secret i is starting out with a good frame and not one that has dry or wet rot in the ends already. Wooden frame parts are relatively inexpensive (this from the man who just makes his own as and when) and can be replaced a bit at a time.He keeps trying to persuade my son to get a traveler and pop a 1.3 A series in it. My son disagrees and wants a V8 something or other.... anonymous user 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Badger Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You could consider an early CR-V/Rav which are more complicated but are a whole world better in reliability than Landrovers or Morris Minors. The reason the parts for theold crocks your looking at are available is that they always need work to keep them going so parts are cheap and usually crap. Buy amk1 giffer owned CR-V with a base spec and it will last you years if you service it, plenty of parts in the scrappy and they share engines with similar age Accords not that much will go wrong. Change the rear diff viscous clutch fluid and the 4 wheel drive is reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Badger Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Pick up one of the workshop manuals and they cover everything you need to know about fault finding with a CR-V, I've got one for my Accord coupe and it's been useful for sorting out some small niggles http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CRV-Factory-Workshop-Manual-1997-99-/252020384394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3aad95e28a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burraston2006 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Toyota Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol? Or are rice burners off the list? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Patrol-Y60-4-2-GR-SLX-Auto-/171863995951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2803e4762f http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-Amazon-4-2TD-Active-ABS-pwr-sr-a-VX-/191630957749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c9e185cb5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Are there many Oxford Travellers left these days?great call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What I'm after is practical advice/experience of the Minor Traveller and the Land Rover. They're not hearing you, brother. (Apart from Ken and Taff and sorry if I missed anyone else) Maybe change the thread title to 'Tell me about series Land Rovers'? @Albert Ross is your man on these - where is Albert, anyway? Mr Ross to the enquiry desk please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castros_bro Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Morris Minor you'll need to talk to Tony Hawks about them. I've had several Minors and even ones with wood as a structural feature and do really like them but an un-modded one is just not up to being a useful means of transport but nice occasional use second car. Struggling to reach terminal velocity with a 44 ton artic behind you will age you prematurely. Anyone with a screwdriver can steal it. Car in front (with ABS) stops at roundabout and guess what happens next. If modded it's difficult to know where not to throw money, engine + 5 speed box with discs at the front is a start, then a rear axle to cope and some real shocks at the front if only the metalwork didn't rot over the past 50 years there'd be something to bolt it all to. I'd go for something 20/30 years younger if it's your only car and then an occasional short trip with dogs on a motorway would not be so frightening. Had a few series 2 and 3 Landys as work vehicles (UK, Europe, Africa, Asia) but was so happy when they started giving us Toyota HiLux 4x4 instead. How about a Citroen XZ diesel plus an old moped (or two) hidden in the cupboard under the stairs. Here's one which is available. and this fit's in the boot and has been here where dogs are welcome and only 1500km drive. Welcome to retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Slow, watertight, easy to fix with good spares availability. What about a 2cv van? Yeah, and Acadiane, if you want to save a tiny bit of scene tax.Which brings me to the better car altogether, a Renner 'trelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I have had loads of later Series Land Rovers, Defenders, Rangies and been lucky enough to have driven virtually every type to have been built. They are all great but you can't beat a Series 1. They are the dog's bollocks. 80s are my favourite, I always wanted one and it hasn't disappointed. Friends have Series 1 86s, 88s, 107s and 109s they are also brill. I've had mine a few years now and use it every day, much for the things you describe. Generally it is very reliable as long as given regular exercise, silly things like the SU pump points sticking and the dynamo belt going slack are the only things which really have let it down. As you have had them before you will know how they drive and all that. The 2 litre engine is mega under-rated, it's got loads of torque and is a real pleasure to drive. Sounds nicer and is more economical than a 2.25. Expensive to rebuild, though but they tend to keep going even when totally borked. It is not fast but will keep up with traffic, motorways are a bit grim but I have no overdrive - it runs at HGV speed though. Spares I think are not quite as much of a problem as some make out... sure a few bits are expensive but they tend to be those parts you would seek during a restoration back to standard spec, not basic wear and tear stuff. Dunsfold have virtually everything but can be a bit snooty; see also LRSeries (Mr Blanchard junior) and John Craddock both of whom are still dipping into ex-MoD stocks bought 40 years ago. The Series One Club also have a spares scheme and various goodies are being remanufactured. Electrics are all vintage Lucas so autojumbles can be very fruitful; a new Autosparks loom isn't dear and is about as simple as you can get this side of an Austin 7. Brakes can be expensive to sort - I had my master cylinder and fronts bored then sleeved in stainless with new seals. Fit and forget. Series 2/3 rears fit using BMC/BL adapters on the hydraulic fittings and only the most dedicated rivet licker will notice. An 80 will be the most pricey, and arguably the least practical. There's bugger all room in the back, no dash storage, the steering is shite (and alloy boxes crack), yada yada. I love them though (I think you have owned one before? So probably 'get it'). 86s and 88s are a bit more refined, more room, ride better etc. You mentioned the want for a Station Wagon so I assume one of these would be what you really want. A Minerva is a top vehicle, there are still loads around barely out of service with the Belgian army, the ones I have driven have all run and gone well. They are all steel but generally only rot really badly around the windscreen which is interchangeable for the galvanised Solihull job anyway. If you buy from the continent they will be cheaper but a lot of people seem to be having the same idea now. All are of course LHD and soft tops, so perhaps not ideal. The values are a bit mad now but if you have always wanted one and are going to keep it... Edit to add this which is fabbo: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-1956-Land-Rover-Series-1-petrol-/171863984907?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2803e44b0b anonymous user 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Don't bother with the Morris Traveller unless you are going to keep it in a heated garage. Even the ones that look sound are only one winter away from despair. Wooden frame. In British weather? Forget it. Consider a Minor Van instead. No easier to find but no wood to rot and just as practical for dogs. Can be fitted with side windows if essential. However, as someone else approaching gifferdom, the Land rover does appeal to me from the maintenance point of view. Easy to get under, to jack up on those rare occasions it is necessary, engine work without bending down as far..... Petrol engined 90, easy to make into a station wagon. £2500 If a V8 doesn't appeal, be patient, there are 4 cyl. ones out there. http://www.gumtree.com/p/land-rover/land-rover-lr90-4c-3-dr-with-new-soft-top-low-mileage-tow-bar-hard-top-drives-superb-any-trial-welc/1125247995 eddyramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Ay up Anon, I am selling this for a friend... it's up here at the moment and it really is lovely. https://flic.kr/s/aHskdK5oXE It's not Autoshite money but it's a very honest motor, too good for OLLI lot. anonymous user and Skizzer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Where the hell is Oakham? It's about 4 hrs or so from me; however, I do have a couple of days off next week so a trip could be on the cards, I'll give you a shout over the weekend if that's ok. scruff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 As some of you may have twigged, I have purchased the red beastie seen above. There will be no collection thread as Mr Spud has kindly agreed to bring it down, but it has given me an excuse to hit ebay for some bits for it (don't worry no checker-plate will be applied) but I have bought an Ifor Williams canopy for it so that the dogs can be transported. I'm hoping it will be my main car fairly quickly so my Suzuki Alto will be going, although after 43000 miles in two years I doubt that I shall get much for it trigger, drum, Asimo and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauserplenty Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED...AW YEAH. Me coat? I was just going anyway, ta wack innit eh. Nice car. RESULT. Happy :dog: :dog: happy humans. WINNAR. P.S. I've never seen one of those over 'ere; closest thing was a Defender in a shop once. But those cost 50 G's and we don't get that much rain here in SoCal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Land Rovers are ace. Mine is in the Top 5 'cars I wish I had never sold category'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripped fred Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I will scratch the land rover itch one day. Can we have lots of updates please? motormatt and Cavcraft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 I'm still smiling and pretty sure I have made the right decision, so much so that today Webuyanycar has become the new owner of my Suzuki Alto. I've been using it for work but otherwise not done much with it so far; ok I've fitted the Ifor Wiliams top to the back, fixed an indicator and reverse lamp and sorted the blow in the exhaust. Next on the list is replace the barrel on the driver's door lock. I bought a pair of barrels so will do the passenger one as well to match the key, but that can wait for the weekend. It's a pleasure to have a vehicle again that's like a big meccano set. I will be putting the spare wheel back on the bonnet and a dog mattress in the back for them when they go out in it. holbeck, Lacquer Peel, Jim Bergerac and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmatt Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Just seen this thread and have to say you made the right choice in the end. A well maintained landie will out live us all. I'd hesitate on putting the spare on the bonnet as they reduce visibility quite a bit and make it so fooking heavy that you have to take it off every time you want to do the slightest thing in the engine bay. Have a look at swing away carriers as an alternative or fit a hydraulic ram under the bonnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 I've had them with the wheel on the bonnet before and been able to open the bonnet also I'm tall enough to see over it, so until I'm too weak and feeble to lift it that's where it's going; I may get a spare, spare wheel to keep in the back as well, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 After taking out 2 tyres on the way back from SF15 2 spares is a gr9 idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmatt Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Fairy nuff, I was just thinking about what you said in the original post. A Land Rover is as easy, if not easier to work on, but the parts are bigger and heavier, something I have to bear in mind as I get more weak and feeble, but at least I could probably get under it to keep the chassis in good order without jacking it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Fair point Barmatt, I just think they look right with the wheel on the bonnet, but ask me again after I have had to open the bonnet a few times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 alto details please - i WILL get mammy to buy a tiny car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Sorry hairnet, the Alto has already gone, I took the thirty pieces of silver offered by WBAC as I hate having to deal with people when selling cars. Today I have done a couple more little jobs on it, The switch panel was cracked so I got a new one, two accessible screws to undo pop out the hazard and panel light switches. I noticed a bit of green corrosion on the panel light switch connections (the panel lights weren't working) so cleaned them up and I now have working panel lights. Replaced windscreen washer pump so I now have working washers. The driver's door lock was seized, either that or needed a different key to the one I have. I ordered a pair of barrels and decided to have a go at changing them. All the door fittings and panel unscrew easily, but I needed a socket for the window winder handle. (I have now stuck a piece of red tape on the top of my little used socket set) After I had picked up all the sockets and put them back in order the handle came off quite easily. I peeled off the plastic inside the door and took a look at the back of the lock. Eventually with my best reading glasses on I could see the head of a small bolt on the back of where the locking barrel is. Tried getting a socket on it before I realised it had a locking tab. bent those back and unscrewed the bolt. I withdrew the piece from inside the door. That was my first mistake. Then the locking barrel fom the other side, I noticed two small ball bearings drop out, one never to be seen again. I then stupidly reassembled without the ball bearing and surprise, whilst it would unlock the door if locked, it would not lock the handle from outside. Obviously those little ball bearings did something important. had a closer look at the bits and worked out where they went and what they did. Spent a while crawling around underneath the Land Rover trying to find the missing one. I eventually gave up and decided to put it back together with just the one. Unfortunately this was not easy, as I didn't have anything to reverse gravity, and it kept falling out before I could slide the one piece in that holds it there as it had to go in first. I then had my brainwave as a distant memory came back of using a blob of grease to hold things in place. I did not have any grease handy, surprising when it's a Land Rover I'm working on, so I improvised using a bit of Savlon (well it heals things so it can't do any harm can it?). This worked, slid in the back bit and then the barrel the other side, bolted up the little bolt and it all works; I can now lock the driver's door from the outside. I now know, when I do the passenger side, not to pull that internal piece out, but to use the key to pull the barrel out on the outside. A few minutes later the door panel and bits were all back on. I then had a look at the door check which wasn't working. (The door has obviously gone into the hinge post a few times). Unscrewed the cover to find a bolt missing, found a suitable sized bolt in my pile of random crap and now that the bracket is secure the check strap works. I just had time to put all the bits away and clean up a bit before taking the dog to the vet to have his stiches out. scruff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Following the success* of changing the lock barrel on the driver's door, I thought I'd do the passenger side while my tea was cooking. This time it was a lot easier. Start by removing the door furniture This time I did keep the socket set the right way up You should be able to see a little bolt head with a tab washer in the hole Bent the tabs back and unscrewed Used key to jiggle the barrel out from the other side In the words of Mr Haynes "Reassembly is the reverse of the above" The first time it took over an hour (but that did include sorting out my socket set), this time less than half an hour, most of the time being spent putting all the screws back in the door panel Bucketeer, Skizzer and scruff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Rocket Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 You know you have a good Land Rover when there's some metal left for the door trim screws to go into!All four doors on my 110 are to the point of falling off the vehicle.. literally.Looks like a decent one you have there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Amazingly all the screws came out and went back in, without the usual rounded off screw-heads. Structurally it is very, very, good, I've seen much newer ones an awful lot worse. My aim is to keep on top of it and, hopefully by doing that, avoid any major rot in future. It's nice to have a vehicle where I don't have to worry about the odd scratch/dent, it used to really annoy me when I collected car park dings, now I won't be too bothered. Skizzer, mat_the_cat and Rusty_Rocket 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffgeezer Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I'd quite like one of those, or something similarly shambling, perhaps when @skattrd gets bored of the UmmBungo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 So glad you are happy with it, it's a great little motor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yo Shiteaz If anyone else has the horn for a Landy, I can throughly recommend this and the lad selling it, he will take £3500 and it's "a goodun" https://www.gumtree.com/p/land-rover/1987-land-rover-110-with-defender-200tdi-exmod/1136910766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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