jakebullet Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Was watching some guff on the haunted fish tank about them building 6 more lightweight e types for 'the right people' ie more money than sense. Only just dawned on me, if you bought one could you actually register it and use it? It's not going to meet modern standards. Or will they ring them with vin plates off ebay? NorfolkNWeigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 They are purely race cars.I doubt any of the originals were really Road legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzy Woking Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I really admire the work the team were putting into building the cars as close to the original as possible. But am I the only one that finds E-Types a bit, well, unappealing? Essex V6, Partridge, Rocket88 and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 am I the only one that finds E-Types a bit, well, unappealing?No, they've never done it for me either, much prefer the XKs. (including the XK8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Was watching some guff on the haunted fish tank about them building 6 more lightweight e types for 'the right people' ie more money than sense. Only just dawned on me, if you bought one could you actually register it and use it? It's not going to meet modern standards. Or will they ring them with vin plates off ebay? Mark Evans said in some article that they could never be road legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Creep Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I really admire the work the team were putting into building the cars as close to the original as possible. But am I the only one that finds E-Types a bit, well, unappealing? I've always thought the roofline of the 2+2 was ugly, but an early convertible is a thing of beauty Timewaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I've always thought the roofline of the 2+2 was ugly, but an early convertible is a thing of beauty Except for the skinny wheels and the enormous overhang of the wings. Even as a little boy, when you could still buy them new, I was disturbed by the poor aesthetics of the recessed wheels and the overhang of the wings. Bristols from the same era have a look which is much more "complete". Uncle Jimmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundig Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I liked the wristwatch they made to go with the car beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 This was always my favourite E-type... Odd, I know. warren t claim, Magnificent Rustbucket, mat_the_cat and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 /\/\/\ Me too, but in hard top 2+2...I'd even add extra flying plughole badges... I did watch this. Even though I have zero interest in E-types...Over rated and ugly...although the 'lightweight' looks miles better than the production gubbins. My main reason for viewing, was the assumption that the craftsmanship side of the project would be excellent. It was. I got extremely pissed off with pretentious bollox such as the watch, the vin plate case and the suitcase and the two chimps who were in charge of that. I also had to leave the room when the 'classic' car dealer bloke was being interviewed at the beginning... Apparently they were going to build 18, but they only did 12, leaving 6 allocated numbers in the Jaguar book of Vin plates... In the end I felt uneasy about the whole project really. I think I'm with Lord March regarding them as replicas, albeit built in a multi-million pound shed as opposed to a garden one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire_Dawson Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I watched this shit tonight whilst cooking tea. One of Junkman's pearls of wisdom: the She-type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssDeeWon Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 E-Types, never looked twice at one tbh, even as a kid I was slightly odd and would wet my pants at seeing a primered up MK2 Granada or a poo brown SD1. These glamorous five figure classics have never got my heart racing. An example below... In the 80s other kids would talk about Ferrari's and Lamborghini's whilst me and a mate of mine would spy this tatty MK2 V reg Granada with blacked out rear lights and a bodged twin centre exhaust. Eventually we found out whose dad owned it and made friends with the kid just to try and get a ride in the Granada, we were 8. Never did though fred, Essex V6, Dippy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In like them but you can get an xk140 for not far off the same money and they're more interesting and better looking in my eyes anyway. The level of craftsman ship in building it was impressive but it was as a marketing stunt as 7 million quid is nothing to them . That's probably their annual muffin basket budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 i was gonna watch it but then that yank opened his mouth in the teaser for it racing ones are gr12 but e type? meh prefer the saloons or an ss100 or something french or german from the 50s or 60s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 E-Types, never looked twice at one tbh, even as a kid I was slightly odd and would wet my pants at seeing a primered up MK2 Granada or a poo brown SD1. These glamorous five figure classics have never got my heart racing. An example below... In the 80s other kids would talk about Ferrari's and Lamborghini's whilst me and a mate of mine would spy this tatty MK2 V reg Granada with blacked out rear lights and a bodged twin centre exhaust. Eventually we found out whose dad owned it and made friends with the kid just to try and get a ride in the Granada, we were 8. Never did though Same here, always went weak kneed at a jacked up Cortina with slots than any E type. Still do to this day.Guess its like looking at these uber skinny super model women, rather have a big knockered old steamer ! Dippy, EssDeeWon and AlabamaShrimp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Liked the Engineer chaps house filled with 1/18th scale jags mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucedoctor Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I read in CAR (I think it was CAR, anyway) that they had originally, that is, "back in the day", intended to build 12 of these cars, but didn't, and only made 6. Something about the VIN numbers already being allocated, and that they were allowed to use them now. Can't remember for sure. Maybe I imagined that lot after beer and kebabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbotman Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 What really grates me about the whole recent e type hype..and especially after watching this programme is how what was effectively a mass produced,shoddily and cheaply built car, has been built up in to some herculean god. As nice as a well restored S1 e type is a lovely piece of kit.......im a bit fed up of people constantly trying to rewrite the history books....as I like many of you here remember them from the 70s and eighties on many a street corner barely 10 years old looking forlorn and shagged out. E types weren't pieces of art as people seem to be portraying them as these days..they were cars that lived fast..died young..you ragged them senseless and they bore the scars. I can't remember seeing a 'used ' looking e type as they used to be in donkeys years..they've nearly all been restored as investment trinkets for those who can't quite stretch to a 60s Aston or Ferrari...but over a million quid for one...that actually could only be registered on a Q plate? Pull the other one.............!! mouseflakes, martc, EssDeeWon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 This was always my favourite E-type... Odd, I know.Nope, I get that 100%. chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think you are all wrong: the E type is a thing of beauty and was originally a world beater. The lightweights are gorgeous and I would give several vital organs for one even if it wasn't road legal. I don't understand the reverse snobbery on here sometimes, I love ratty old heaps, slightly less ratty old heaps and stupendous resto jobs that have cost the price of a house. They are all cars, the only difference is some we can afford and some we can only dream about. I was disappointed in the programme though as, once again, it was superficial and just went on about the cost. I really wanted to see me of the building of the cars, the stats and specs and the workmanship. Skizzer, stephen01, mat_the_cat and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I've been shifting round a hard top E type recently and would really like the chance to get to work on it (I've dropped a few hints). I know they are out of my league to buy but so are Interceptors and even Capris now. They were on the list of cars I loved when I was 8 with Cobras and Ferrari 250GTO's and still are. I know nothing about the program but arn't going to diss them just because they are worth a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Morose Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I used to know a Spanish chap who services exotica for wealthy clients (e types did not get even get close) he educated me in the fact that it's all nut and bolts. The only thing that really changes is how expensive the nuts and bolts are and how they're put together. Having been in the (I suppose) enviable position to have driven all series of e type is that the series one was the most involving to drive with beautiful handling (of its time) but sodding uncomfortable for a portly bastard like myself. The series three is nice and comfy as a GT car but nothing else. It's badly compromised as a sports car and really handles like a cow. Personally I'd have an FF but I don't have the money. Lord Sterling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I never liked E-types, even as a kid, always found them awful inside out, and this despite there were times in my life, when I could easily afford one.But I bought an Iso Grifo Sette Litri and then a Maserati Ghibli instead, before I settled on the only real sports car of EVAH. Lacquer Peel, Partridge, Dippy and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Give me a scabby '40 with a blowing backbox and squiffy suspension anyday! RE Italiano shitazonie, Junkman, do you urinate money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rml2345 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The series 1/1.5 E-Types are properly gorgeous but as with many things, attempting to appeal to one market just made it worse. That and Jaguar building them very much to a price rather than a standard. Jags used to be a lot of flash car for the money but they certainly weren't in the same quality leagues as the likes of Rover or Humber. It seems to get forgotten in the reams of mince written about E-Types and MK2s and the like. Yes they were good, but they also harboured horrendous built in rust traps that rival the BMC 1100 for comprehensive dissolving credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbotman Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I don't understand the reverse snobbery on here sometimes, I love ratty old heaps, slightly less ratty old heaps and stupendous resto jobs that have cost the price of a house. They are all cars, the only difference is some we can afford and some we can only dream about.I don't think it's a case of reverse snobbery...well in my view! But what we get from the programme was that if you did buy yourselves a genuine lightweight for say between 5 to 7 million...these days it would be far too valuable race, and if you bought one of these Jaguar "replicas" for one and a half million...you still couldn't race it because it's not historic enough..and you can't even road register it due to type approval legislation...yet the programme didn't actually go in to where they sourced to running gear,axles and transmission from?...Your not telling me that they didn't use existing castings from a donor vehicles..and I think this is why they didn't go in to the spec of the cars on the show too much. Therefore the car effectively becomes a a full scale 'burago' model and therefore a bit of a waste of all that effort..and whilst I realise that 1and a half mil is a drop in the ocean for most high end car people these days it does seem such a terrible waste of all that effort. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I do like the E type in all its variations. True, they are not the prettiest thing out there and for me to actually get into one would require back surgery and a fat sucking session or twelve. However, having watched most of the programme I was really impressed with the degree of enthusiasm and ability re: the blokes putting these cars together. Great craftmanship. I was also wondering where they got the running gear from but what the heck. It was a decent enough prog given the usual parameters involved and given what passes for TV nowadays. No ordinary TV watching person is going to want the bits on screen that we might like to see, however, Mark Evans made it bearable. Now, would I have one? If I had the money then yes I would. Would I use it on track, yes I would. Are they just big toys, yes to a degree. I would never get tired of the thing though, just looking at the workmanship would keep me amused for many years. If I had multi-millions I would also have the perverse pleasure in having a fully restored, concourse rated Triumph Toledo, Volvo Amazon, Rover 75, Mk2 Granada, K11 Micra, Daf 44, Daf 33, FX4 taxi and an F reg Landie 110 in my stable! Oh yes I would. Just because. Not getting invited to Goodwood? That would not faze me as I have never been anyway. Do I want to go? Not really sure tbh. I get what that March bloke said about the replica thing though it was a bit harsh given the curiosity value of the cars and just how interesting the whole thing was as an exercise. Having one on display there would not hurt anyone. The suitcase was a bit OTT, but the VIN presentation case was ok. Kind of what you would expect. The two blokes? Well, marketing is their job after all ** Oh, also a BRG 1998 1.8 VVC MGF xtriple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainagain Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I loved the Danny DeVito look alike when he was looking at the holes that had been cut to save weight: " what are theses holes for? Are they staying there?". The poor guys making it must have wondered why they bothered. Yes we just cut some holes out so we can plate over them later on. Talbotman, purplebargeken and Banger Kenny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I don't understand the reverse snobbery on here sometimes I don't see that, but I do see differing opinion... I think you are all wrong ...and this is yours! AS is a broad church. xtriple, purplebargeken, Vin and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I love E types, I almost bought an early coupe in about 2003 for what looking back was not a lot of money. Sanity and buying a house got in the way! I dont really understand why they are replicating them now though. I say 'replica' but there is simply no comparison to how an E was put together then and the painstaking way in which there have been put together for this project. In fact although he had an eye for publicity he was also very tight with costings and production techniques so it will be interesting to think what Bill lyons would have made of it. I suppose its being done to reinforce the brand and remind us of the heritage in a high profile way- yet in period Lyons simply pragmatically targetted motorsport events (mainly le mans) to build the brand identity. There was little sentimentality. (Ferrari especially would order obsolete racing stuff to be caniballised and/ or shoved under a road roller when it was no longer useful). Over recent years jag has given mixed messages about they're heritage- for a while every new xj was a modernised copy stylistically of the original xj6 and when it was widely popular they really went to town with retro styling yet in the last 10 years they seem to be looking more into the future with the current saloons. Then they commission these new builds. Then again perhaps Lyons would have approved- its probably cheaper than launching another attempt at F1..... The Reverend Bluejeans and stephen01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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