CortinaDave Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 CUNTS. there was a mk4 cortina in there.With the FSO, in fairness as much as i love the shiteness of them and they always make me smile, i can imagine trying to find someone who would actually buy one off you other than a banger racer would be tricky to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 The Mk 4 Cortina was strange,it looked like someone had taken the springs out & the bottom of the car was about 2 inches off the ground.It also sounded like the bottom was going to drop out of the engine at any minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torsten2001 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 CUNTS. there was a mk4 cortina in there.With the FSO, in fairness as much as i love the shiteness of them and they always make me smile, i can imagine trying to find someone who would actually buy one off you other than a banger racer would be tricky to say the leastMe!That Mk 4 was the 2dr one right? Looked straight enough too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 The Mk 4 was a 4 door,the 2 door was a Mk 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew e Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Is this a euro grannie 2 door  http://matthowes.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19608&g2_serialNumber=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Shittiong hell, it looks like one, RHD though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 The 2 door Granada was driven by a Belgian driver,not sure where the car came from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torsten2001 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Christ on a bike that's amazing, what is wrong with people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Ross Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 They have this warped impression that they get kudos from other racers for the rarity/perceived value/condition of the cars. Everyone uses Bluebirds for instance, but if a guy comes along in a Celica ST from the late 70s, he gets a pat on the back for killing a rarer car. I know cars have to die sometime, but surely it's better to keep it in legal running condition than fuck it up for the future generations. "What's a Cortina Dad? Did they have them in the Olden Days? Did you ever see one?" It's a perverse "sport" to be honest. I once went to a track in the '80s I believe it was Prestwood.....middle of Buckinghamshire possibly Oxfordshire. I was convinced that trashing a 1973ish Audi Coupe was a good idea. We painted it pink and brown, badly I might add, and killed it in grand style, I can see the face of the guy we bought it off for hardly any money. "You will look after it, won't you?" Yeah......of course, said my "mate". I feel sad about it now, but it was scrap back then. Wish I had it now though................it was Kingfisher Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Prestwood is in Bucks near Great Missingdon, bit of a way from Doncaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Ross Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've moved around a lot. Leicester, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Bermuda, Tamworth,Mauritius, Scunthorpe, Tamworth, Bracknell, Ascot, Slough, Truro, Bridgwater, Glasgow, Twickenham, Lincoln, Nottingham, Swindon, Warwick, Nottingham, Swansea, Nottingham, Lincoln, Doncaster. All roughly in order over 40 odd years or so. I've seen a lot of life.Met all sorts of people. Some I've liked, some I've not. Prestwood is near Great Missenden, you're right, I do recall there being a "water feature" in the middle of the track, and a novice woman driver using it to park a Mk1 Escort...........ruined the car!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've moved around a lot. Leicester, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Bermuda, Tamworth,Mauritius, Scunthorpe, Tamworth, Bracknell, Ascot, Slough, Truro, Bridgwater, Glasgow, Twickenham, Lincoln, Nottingham, Swindon, Warwick, Nottingham, Swansea, Nottingham, Lincoln, Doncaster. All roughly in order over 40 odd years or so. I've seen a lot of life.Met all sorts of people. Some I've liked, some I've not. Prestwood is near Great Missenden, you're right, I do recall there being a "water feature" in the middle of the track, and a novice woman driver using it to park a Mk1 Escort...........ruined the car!!That's quite a list of locations, can't say for Burmuda or Mauritius but a fair few of the others are near oval tracks. Prestwood certainly wouldn't of won many prizes from the HSE. They were quite economical with their use of cars some lasting more than a season and looking like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Ross Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Mauritius drivers picked cars that looked like they'd done a season or 2 on the oval BEFORE being used on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm sad to see banger drivers still being called "cunts" and treated like shit on here - all 155V6 did was ask if anybody was going (a perfectly fair question?) and then the insults all kick off!I race, the old ones are all basket cases in the main - I never give more than £100 for a car & most cars I race are modern tat anyway. Didn't do much in 2008 so it was an N14 Sunny, Mk2 Mundano & a Rover Metro - the only "classic" I raced was a mk5 cortina that I bought for £75 with no windscreen, front valance and a blown engine! Some of you non-racing enthusiasts have probably weighed in more old cars than the one I raced in 2008, but you are all heros and I am a "cunt"? Away from the track I am perfectly "autoshite compliant" - run a C32 Laurel on the road, keep a Triumph Acclaim in running order for a (female, non-racing) friend... Racing frineds of mine run about on the road in perfectly "shite worthy" cars - a Mk1 Granada 3.0 ghia coupe, Mk2 Granada 2.3GL, Mk2 Granada 2.8i ghia, Austin FX4 taxi, Volvo 740 estate - the guy with the coupe has just picked up a Mk3 Granada limo with knackered brakes to repair and smoke about in! How many of the rest of us would have the brass neck to "save" one of them and drive it about!?I thought this site was about having an interest in obscure / old / non-exotic cars, primarily by people who enjoy owning & driving them on a daily basis, regardless of what their other interests and enthusiasms are, automotive or otherwise?Sadly I appear to be wrong? I don't understand why a Talbot Alpine pictured rotting in a hedge or piled in a scrappies is interesting and wonderful, but on the banger track is an abberation? Personally I find it & it's survival to that point interesting wherever it is - regardless that it will never turn a wheel on the road again in any of the above scenarios! But thats just me!ho hum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55bloke Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Can't really argue with any of that Wilko, and I do agree that personal insults are a bit regretable. But, having said that, it does sadden me to see old cars trashed in that way, and I'm not totally convinced they're all beyond hope. It's been said before that if no one comes forward with the readies to save an old motor, then it's a bit pointless whining about it when the banger boys get it! Personally, I've never understood how people get pleasure from destroying things, it seems a bit too much like vandalism to me. But, that's just me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I used to get in a mega flap about rare stuff getting bangered. Now I am past all that. Over the last 18 months i tried to rescue ALL RARE CRUSTY VEHICLES, fix em up and find new keen owners for em but I only got through about 4 or 5 in an entire year, leaving about 100,000 still to do, and at the same time I was responsible for a mega rare Mitsi Sigma estate rotting away in a field, which i had bought to stop it getting bangered! Now thanks to my 'care' the Sigma is as rusty as fook and might as well have done a tour of the oval, as such I have run out of cred for dissing the banger crew. So its just tough luck, stuff gets bangered, just have to get on with my life as best I can innit.The vision of that stolen Datsun 180B SSS off Datmans forum winding up on the banger track will be with me forever though, now that should be punishable by some vile means which has been outlawed for centuries. Anyone involved in that sorry tale is a full on TWAT, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 didnt realise the sigma was still about .wasnt you going to restore it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyloud Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Mauritius drivers picked cars that looked like they'd done a season or 2 on the oval BEFORE being used on the road.Oh yes.       etc I used to go to a few meets, a couple of mates were well into it. Some of the bigger meets I watched (like in Swaffham and Wimbledon firecracker) had some interesting and rare material. I recall several Crowns, big Datsuns and wierd stuff like Moskvitch, Ladas, countless hearses etc ending their lives in some glory. At the time no one bar a few collectors really cared about their survival. The XJ6, Nissan 300C and Granada mk2 ruled the track, volvo 240 estates were just coming into the scene. Now I guess these cars are started to be appriciated which I guess adds to the kudos of racing rarer and desireable cars. I've sold cars to banger racers and its been straight forward deals - I've been pissed around by idiots on ebay who waste my time, yet all the banger guys I've dealt with have been true to their word. As a general rule I say - if you buy a car fair and square, and then you do what the hell you like with it. Can't save them all as bo11ox sez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Nice to see a more balanced view emerging......in some cases, us banger drivers who also have a passion for old cars (not all do) can be quite helpful - DatsunCherry, from your last post, I think it was probably you that I donated a new Datsun Cherry front wing to a couple of years ago!?I agree that the SSS Datsun being stolen & raced was disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 the talk is the driver who raced the sss,also raced a really clean mk1 granada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greenvanman Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 So its just tough luck, stuff gets bangeredExactly. Although banger racing is unpalatable to many of us here, that's not the problem in itself. The problem is the emergence of those few bored, restless souls who use the appearance of any thread discussing this 'sport' as an opportunity to try and wind up the regulars here. Have a look at the main autoshite.com site and please, tell me where there's any mention of celebrating the joys of banger racing. The web is full of plenty of places dedicated to discussing exactly that subject, so if you're not all just trolling for some sort of reaction why not go to one of those and talk about your delightful hobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 So its just tough luck, stuff gets bangeredExactly. Although banger racing is unpalatable to many of us here, that's not the problem in itself. The problem is the emergence of those few bored, restless souls who use the appearance of any thread discussing this 'sport' as an opportunity to try and wind up the regulars here. Have a look at the main autoshite.com site and please, tell me where there's any mention of celebrating the joys of banger racing. The web is full of plenty of places dedicated to discussing exactly that subject, so if you're not all just trolling for some sort of reaction why not go to one of those and talk about your delightful hobby?I think the problem is mainly a bit ignorance on both sides, from the racing side a lack of sensitivity to people's genuine concern about saveable classics being destroyed and then gloated about.  From the classics side a belief that hundreds of potentual concours cars are being destroyed each year. I am sure if you have enough money and enthusiasm you could restore plenty of these cars but for most people the bottom line is economics, these cars, today, are beyond economical repair.Another point which has been made before is that most of the banger racing is not involving classics and does not really effect the amout of older cars later, with SORN and the cost of storage these cars aren't gong to suddenly emerge in 20 years time, if not raced they just get scrapped. About 5000 cars a week are scrapped; more than enough for everyone.  Any troll like posts are usualy a reaction to name calling or daft comments if you can't take it don't give it. Put up a sensible argument and if you then get nonsense back you've made your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 i agree with you simmo.i dont post on here now because of all the name calling,but i enjoy reading some witty comments on ebay and pictures of some crocks of shite that even i would not race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Don't mind a bit of banter or piss taking but as a victim of crime (like so many) it does grate a bit to be called a thieving pikey, even if it is a generalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw118 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 So, just to stir the shit-pot a bit more, who's going to Civil War on Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappylad Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 On a similar vein to whats already been posted... Banger racing classics makes the ones that are left rarer & therefore worth more, yeah? Which should in theory be a good thing from an angle. But then if I can't afford to buy what I'd like now, whats the chances of me being able to afford the same car in say 2 or 3 years time when its value has increased beyond what I can afford then?I'd like a Farina of some description, but one that is solid in all the right places (I have no welding gear/skills) & quite simply its a no-no as far as I can see. I used to see them coming up fairly cheaply a few years ago but now even tired-ish examples are doing quite strong money.In response to the folk that say, you could have bought the car & saved it from being bangered could you not? I expect I'll be able to be in the position to do so at some point, but now is not the time, economically and physically I've no space to keep another car & in the meantime they continue to be raced.I wouldn't say the whole thing boils my blood as I've come to terms with the fact that you can't save everything but I still find the situation disheartening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 On a similar vein to whats already been posted... Banger racing classics makes the ones that are left rarer & therefore worth more, yeah?Not really. Rarity doesn't equate to value as can often be seen in the ebay thread of this 'ere forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 On a similar vein to whats already been posted... Banger racing classics makes the ones that are left rarer & therefore worth more, yeah?Not really. Rarity doesn't equate to value as can often be seen in the ebay thread of this 'ere forum.It is also human nature not appreciate something until it is gone or unattainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 So, just to stir the shit-pot a bit more, who's going to Civil War on Sunday? You trying to get a North South devide thing going here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
155V6 Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 Where's it taking place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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