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Rusty Triumphs in Scotland - DON'T POKE THE RUST - 22/02/19

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#1411 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:42 PM

If it won't fit you could run it 'on the bench' to assess its condition, if it sounds good with no smoke clean it up, paint it and flog it on for a tidy sum. All within your capability.


If you do this ^^, make sure you have the camera filming so we can all see your grumpy neighbors reaction to an engine being run out on the street with no silencer!
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#1412 OFFLINE   captain_70s

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Posted Yesterday, 12:23 AM

This free engine can only go well. If it fits in the dolly, tremendous, a working engine is better than a dead one. If it doesn’t fit, no problem, sell it on and top up the piggy bank.

 

This is my thinking. The thing is 6 miles away so I can't really lose*.

 

If it won't fit you could run it 'on the bench' to assess its condition, if it sounds good with no smoke clean it up, paint it and flog it on for a tidy sum. All within your capability.

 

I do like the concept of firing up an engine on the pavement outside my flat... 

 

Several local Shitters offered help with transport and the esteemed Mr 320Touring will be aiding my engine collecshiun by way of veg powered Germanic steel. (Shame it's nae the Oxford tho).


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#1413 OFFLINE   captain_70s

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Posted Yesterday, 04:08 PM

Don't poke the rust.

 

Don't poke the rust.

 

Don't poke the rust.

 

Don't poke the rust.

 

Don't poke the rust.

 

Don't poke the rust.

 

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OH FUCKING SHIT STICKS. I WENT AND POKED THE RUST.

 

Suspicions of Bodge It and Scarper Ltd quality repairs confirmed. Waste of a decent repair panel, that.

 

The original arch hidden underneath still had giffer touch-ups in the wrong shade of green. Was probably half decent prior to the "repair"... TDC do panels to cover the area affected so it's aaaaall good*


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#1414 OFFLINE   Conan

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Posted Yesterday, 04:14 PM

Wow that arch looks totally fucking fucked m8.


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#1415 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted Yesterday, 04:16 PM

You need to get this car fixed asap. If you don't, the lack of driving it will mean more poking of it. More poking of it means more incidents like that.
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Posted Yesterday, 04:21 PM

I had a similar experience this afternoon with my Triumph.

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Wished I'd just left it well alone.

I fucked it off and will sleep on it before I look at it again tomorrow.
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#1417 ONLINE   junkyarddog

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Posted Yesterday, 04:22 PM

If you keep picking at it,it'll never heal!

At least that's what I was told as a lad.
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#1418 OFFLINE   somewhatfoolish

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Posted Yesterday, 04:26 PM

That's some 24ct bodgery there.


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Posted Yesterday, 04:38 PM

The other side is the same deal but looks less shit and is already partially repaired so I'll pretend it doesn't exist for now. The current range of TDC panels cover this area:

 

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Which is pretty much what I need. The yellow panel is £60 and I only need the leading edge so I may try and fabricate something to fit instead... Will likely also need some extra metal for the area above the arch lip which the red panel will cover but it's a simple enough shape. The inner seems comparatively decent. I'd say the end result of peeling that repair panel off is actually slightly better than I thought it'd be in that there is actually still some metal there!


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Posted Yesterday, 04:47 PM

Oh no.
You poked the rust.
It's all YOUR fault.

(Ahh well, it had to be done. At least it's not a major repair).
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Posted Yesterday, 04:56 PM

I still get the Dollymix (from when I nearly bought a dolly). I was especially surprised me how reasonably priced the TDC panels are.
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#1422 OFFLINE   captain_70s

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Posted Yesterday, 04:58 PM

Arches are going to be about £100 a side I reckon. Easily the biggest bit of bodywork which needs doing...


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Posted Yesterday, 05:32 PM

As a repairer of rusty old bodge, may I recommend you find a way to get the £60 for the panel.  It'll be shitloads easier than making it from scratch.  I wish someone made rear arches for Princesses, you don't know how easy you've got it, m8.

 

I'm impressed that the level of bodge on that arch far outweighed what was actually required.  They could have just used bunched up newspaper and fibreglass filler instead of going to the trouble and expense of a repair panel.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:18 PM

I'm genuinely shocked that they weren't made of cornflakes.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:22 PM

As a repairer of rusty old bodge, may I recommend you find a way to get the £60 for the panel. It'll be shitloads easier than making it from scratch. I wish someone made rear arches for Princesses, you don't know how easy you've got it, m8.

I'm impressed that the level of bodge on that arch far outweighed what was actually required. They could have just used bunched up newspaper and fibreglass filler instead of going to the trouble and expense of a repair panel.


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Posted Yesterday, 07:24 PM

Can you not just buy similar style arches for cheaper and weld them in? I'm sure derskine used fiesta arches on his imp.
I need to do the rear arches on my 305 but can't find replacements anywhere so ended up going up to knaven with a battery powered grinder and chopped some out of a couple of 305 vans.
The knobvan I used volvo 360 arches because I had a set lying around, it didn't look that bad.
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#1427 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted Yesterday, 10:02 PM

I fucked it off and will sleep on it before I look at it again tomorrow.


What does MrsImp think of having to sleep next to someone who is sleeping on top of some rusty old steel?
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Posted Yesterday, 10:34 PM

Time for JDM arches?

 

You could also use the universal arch repair panels.  Not ideal but much cheaper.

 

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I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!


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Posted Yesterday, 10:50 PM

Do you still own the 1850?
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Posted Today, 12:52 AM

Don't poke the rust.
 
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OH FUCKING SHIT STICKS. I WENT AND POKED THE RUST.
 
Suspicions of Bodge It and Scarper Ltd quality repairs confirmed. Waste of a decent repair panel, that.
 
The original arch hidden underneath still had giffer touch-ups in the wrong shade of green. Was probably half decent prior to the "repair"... TDC do panels to cover the area affected so it's aaaaall good*

  

I had a similar experience this afternoon with my Triumph.
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Wished I'd just left it well alone.
I fucked it off and will sleep on it before I look at it again tomorrow.

Triumphs and large quantities of rust go hand in hand. You would have to be a monumental idiot to go poking and think everything will be alright...

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Despite the lessons learned that day, I still poked at the rust on the 75's sills, which had predictable results.

Don't be like Captain70s, HillmanImp and I chaps, DON'T POKE THE FUCKING RUST.

P.S: Great result on landing the free engine.
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#1431 OFFLINE   MorrisItalSLX

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Posted Today, 01:48 AM

It just goes to show that hammering another one over the top is not always the best solution.
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#1432 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted Today, 07:37 AM

I'll also say don't pick at previous repair panels with a screwdriver either...
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Just ends up with more awkward work to do.
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#1433 OFFLINE   captain_70s

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Posted Today, 01:07 PM

Can you not just buy similar style arches for cheaper and weld them in? I'm sure derskine used fiesta arches on his imp.
I need to do the rear arches on my 305 but can't find replacements anywhere so ended up going up to knaven with a battery powered grinder and chopped some out of a couple of 305 vans.
The knobvan I used volvo 360 arches because I had a set lying around, it didn't look that bad.

 

I did have that thought but the Dolly arches are an unusual shape and 'cause the rust extends so far I'd need to recreate the swage lines which'd just be a fuck about.

 

Do you still own the 1850?

 

I do, but I can't steal it's arches 'cause it's nearly back on the road, and it's arches are made of wob. ;)


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#1434 OFFLINE   lanciamatt

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Posted Today, 03:14 PM

Are you using 1850then?

#1435 OFFLINE   big_al_granvia

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Posted Today, 04:05 PM

get some aluminium mesh, tin of fiberglass and tin of filler, cut and fold mesh to shape of arch, layer on fiberglass to cover holes and mesh, trowel on filler and sand back until you have something resembling a wheel arch... spray with rattle cans.... a true 70's repair



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Posted Today, 04:43 PM

Some bodging twat did something similar on my Capri years ago. They obviously had rotten arches so chopped off the outer arches, then chopped off the rusty inner arch where the two spot weld together. Then slapped a new arch over the top, lap joined it on with spot welds to hold it on, filled the join and most of the rear quarter panel and painted it.
They didn’t even attempt to replace the inner arch they cut out though so the two were left unattached! Eventually damp and road crap worked it’s way into the gap and then the badly welded seam and it rotted again, bubbling and pushing all the filler out from the inside.
It’s not that much more hard work to do it properly!
I needed whole new rear quarters to restore it this time. They’re huge and cost over a grand each!

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