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#1381 OFFLINE   SiC

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:53 PM

Only if,
 
A: I get the new engine transported, reconditioned and fitted before the event, and
B: I can be arsed driving it so far. The Doloshite is too loud and unpleasant at 60mph+ for hours on end. Avoiding motorways Google reckons it's a 12 hour trip each way if you avoid the motorways, £175 in petrol at 35mpg... The alternative is taking the Acclaim down the motorway at 7 hours each way and £100 in petrol at 40mpg...


All I see is excuses!
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:03 PM

How much of that is only true because of its utterly horlixed engine though?

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:19 PM

All I see is excuses!


Better get your MGB there then;)
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:40 PM

Better get your MGB there then;)


That is the intention!
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:55 PM

That is the intention!


Excellent stuff!
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 10:07 PM

Excellent stuff!


That's presuming that we've moved house by then (bloody hope so) and it hasn't fall through (bloody hope it doesn't)! Also presuming I haven't fallen in love with the 1100 so much that I'm driving it around everywhere instead.

Or if both cars are usable at that point, maybe mr_70s could fly down from Glasgow to Bristol and then experience driving a proper[ly shit] sports car?

Despite moving to south of Bristol, it will still actually be a nearly 2 hr journey if I keep off the motorways though.

Is it the Morris Oxford for you??
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 10:13 PM

Actually will be by far the cheapest way from up in Coldland down to Warmland. Under 50quid return if the cheapest times are chosen.
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 10:13 PM

That's presuming that we've moved house by then (bloody hope so)! Also presuming I haven't fallen in love with the 1100 so much that I'm driving it around everywhere instead.

Or if both cars are usable at that point, maybe mr_70s could fly down from Glasgow to Bristol and then experience driving a proper* sports car?

Despite moving to south of Bristol, it will still actually be a nearly 2 hr journey if I keep off the motorways though.

Is it the Morris Oxford for you??


That depends on a number of things, mainly financial, and time. Luckily not moving house..
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 12:00 AM

All I see is excuses!

Pretty much. I shall not hide the fact that I'd rather use a car with an overdrive gear! I don't really mind driving it long distances but it's too low geared to be economical or sound happy on motorways where even lorries will outpace you!

 

How much of that is only true because of its utterly horlixed engine though?

 

60mph on the motorway is still 3,800rpm in top even with a healthy engine, the car is more suited to twisty B roads and darting about town. Besides, driving it for over an hour or two gives me a sore back. :P

 

My old 1850HL would've been a far better choice for the trip if it were still on the go, 60mph is still 3,300rpm in top but I used to get 38-40mpg on long runs as it had the torque to make holding a constant speed effortless. The driver's seat was also much less collapsed...

 

Flying would be far easier, faster and cheaper but ultimately I reckon I'd feel like a bit of a ponce for not driving there in something at least 30 years old...


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 07:09 AM

Now I feel bad for thrapping Reliants up and down the motorway at 65-70,which I think was around 4800rpm...
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:32 AM

The long haul in the Dolly would be heroic - going for it in the Acclaim - insane and optimistic - flying down and rolling up in Sic's BGT - helpful, courteous and giving the hard working chod a rest.....

Obviously MPG can be vastly improved by doing a fair chunk of the journey on the back of the old big yellow bus :-D



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Posted 11 February 2019 - 12:17 PM

could always come dowd for a £1

 

https://www.driiveme...rch-rental.html


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:18 PM

could always come dowd for a £1

 

https://www.driiveme...rch-rental.html

 

what a great site, has anyone on here used them?



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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:40 PM

 Besides, driving it for over an hour or two gives me a sore back. :P

 

My old 1850HL would've been a far better choice for the trip if it were still on the go, 60mph is still 3,300rpm in top but I used to get 38-40mpg on long runs as it had the torque to make holding a constant speed effortless. The driver's seat was also much less collapsed...

Replacement seat diaphragms are pretty cheap.


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:45 PM

I seem to remember Dave Numbers using tie-down-straps as a makeshift repair on a seat base to replace broken webbing. Maybe he used cheapie ratchet-type straps.

Amazon do these pull-through-&-lock type, £2.10p for the pair.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 10:29 PM

Pirelli seat webbing was the other widely used material. Still available.


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Squeak, rattle and roll.

 

 

Thanks restorer.

 

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 12:17 PM

Now I feel bad for thrapping Reliants up and down the motorway at 65-70,which I think was around 4800rpm...

The last time the Doloshite's engine touched 4,000rpm it dismantled itself in protest. A decent engine may change my opinions in fairness...

 

With regards the seat, the base isn't all that bad aside from being a bit flatter than it probably should be. The issue is the back rest, there is a steel bar which runs up to support the headrest which digs into my back, presumably the padding has disintegrated over time. Probably a simple enough fix I've just never been arsed as I very rarely drive the car for more than an hour or two at a time...


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Posted 16 February 2019 - 12:50 AM

Beaded seat covers.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:22 PM

I seem to have agreed to collect a Triumph Herald 1200cc OHV engine, sight unseen, advertised on Gumtree last night.

 

The good news is that it's free and only a few miles away. The bad is that I have no idea if a 1200 Herald engine will actually mate up to the Doloshite's gearbox, but it was free. So fuck it.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:28 PM

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:30 PM

Dolomite 1300

This unit provides power and torque figures of 58 bhp (59 PS/43 kW) at 5500 rpm and 92 Nm (68 lbft/9.4 kgm) at 3300 rpm respectively.


Herald 1200

Claimed maximum power of the Herald 1200 was 39 bhp (29 kW), as against the 34.5 bhp (25.7 kW) claimed for the 948 cc model.


But then free and I guess the dollys original engine could have been putting that out around that at the end of its life.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:46 PM

According to the seller it's a high compression engine, presumably from a 12/50, so it should be more around the 50bhp figure.

 

That could, of course, be bullshit. But yeah, I doubt the old motor was generating anything near 58bhp by the time I owned it...


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:49 PM

...60mph on the motorway is still 3,800rpm in top....

 

:shock:  - that is a lot of revs to be buzzing in your eardrums. I thought the CX was a bit high at 2700rpm (60mph), but 3800 is a lot  :shock:  :shock:  .

 

Out of interest, what is the final drive ratio on the Doloshite - is there no taller final drive available?


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:54 PM

:shock:  - that is a lot of revs to be buzzing in your eardrums. I thought the CX was a bit high at 2700rpm (60mph), but 3800 is a lot  :shock:  :shock:  .

 

Out of interest, what is the final drive ratio on the Doloshite - is there no taller final drive available?

You could fit a diff from a 1500/1850 to improve rpm at motorway speeds but you can't really afford to loose the acceleration... O/D Spitfire gearbox would be nice but they command decent money as Spitfire owners all want one.

 

Even the Acclaim with it's 5th gear is doing 3,000rpm at 60mph, exactly the same as my '05 Civic!


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 04:35 PM

This free engine can only go well. If it fits in the dolly, tremendous, a working engine is better than a dead one. If it doesn’t fit, no problem, sell it on and top up the piggy bank.

That’s a win-win in my books.

All I can think of in a constructive manner is that you are in a similar situation as dollywobbler with the Fox. Same engine, different car, so there may be differences between the engines but you have the original to swap parts over so it all comes together nicely.

Crack on I say!
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 04:48 PM

Hopefully the knackered engine will yield parts to make it fit. Iirc someone on here offered ramp or storage space for you to do it? Might be worth taking it up as if it's not a straight swap, it could be a couple of days job.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:15 PM

I can't remember if the Herald/Dolomite gearboxes are a straight swap but the engine backplates are easy enough to swap over. The front plate will probably need swapping too as that has the engine mounts on. That's a bit more hassle as it sits between the block and timing chain cover but still pretty simple.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:40 PM

If it won't fit you could run it 'on the bench' to assess its condition, if it sounds good with no smoke clean it up, paint it and flog it on for a tidy sum. All within your capability.


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:42 PM

If it won't fit you could run it 'on the bench' to assess its condition, if it sounds good with no smoke clean it up, paint it and flog it on for a tidy sum. All within your capability.


If you do this ^^, make sure you have the camera filming so we can all see your grumpy neighbors reaction to an engine being run out on the street with no silencer!
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:23 AM

This free engine can only go well. If it fits in the dolly, tremendous, a working engine is better than a dead one. If it doesn’t fit, no problem, sell it on and top up the piggy bank.

 

This is my thinking. The thing is 6 miles away so I can't really lose*.

 

If it won't fit you could run it 'on the bench' to assess its condition, if it sounds good with no smoke clean it up, paint it and flog it on for a tidy sum. All within your capability.

 

I do like the concept of firing up an engine on the pavement outside my flat... 

 

Several local Shitters offered help with transport and the esteemed Mr 320Touring will be aiding my engine collecshiun by way of veg powered Germanic steel. (Shame it's nae the Oxford tho).


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