hairnet Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 friends bro lives in liverpool and says the gearbox on his laguna sticks in first....... itll unstick and drive ok for a bit then seize up again manual 6 speed any recommendations for places to swap it in liverpool - not sure how far itd go to make it here ive asked if its a clutch prob too waiting to hear about that ta edit - she said he was driving to work and it just started happening - no gradual fail etc - (linkage)?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Bren, Cavcraft, UltraWomble and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 In all honesty for what it's going to cost him, it's simply not worth it. Even the manual boxes in these are shit, just not quite as shit as the autos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 so thats one reply here and 4 replys elsewhere whove said bin it off she said he needs to fix it - ive said use the fix money to buy summat else and weigh it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panhard65 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Unfortunatly it probably is bridge time for it. The 6 speed box isn't very reliable and not a quick thing to replace. Autodata give over 7 hours to do the job. They also have dual mass flywheels so not cheap for a clutch. They aren't that difficult to DIY but you have to take the whole front off and it is a bloody heavy gearbox. The boxes also fit traffics so are quite sort after keeping secondhand prices high. The megane 6 speed is much better but won't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Box repair / replacement + clutch / DMF - as Sarah Brightman sang "time to say goodbye". Selector in Garston could do the job but for more than car is worth. Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Would this be a syncro ring problem? Not allowing the gear to engage the next cog in the box? + Bren and messerschmitt owner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 It does sound like a linkage failure though so probably worth getting someone to look at it first before weighing it in under the assumption it needs a new box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 From another forum from 2009 Got the same on my 1.9, 6 speed Laguna. It's done 156000 miles.The 1st and 2nd gears are the worst. I replaced the clutch 18 months ago. I put equivalent grade gearbox oil in (2.4l) and all was ok for a while. Then I noticed the gear changes were not so good. I drained the oil and put the same back in but a bit less 2.2l. This appeared to help but has been bad again recently. I tried to get some Tranself TRP from renault and was told that Renault now recommend Tranself NRP so I used 2.2l of that, it didn't change much. Today I bled the clutch it doesn't seem much different.I believe it could be the oil level (or if I need TRP) but I will have to go to Renault to find out.Other than that I think it could be the gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The old PQ9 box. Is it just sticking in first or is the gearbox actually jamming up so the car won't go? If it's the former, pull away in 2nd. These boxes do suffer bearing failure but they aren't as bad as that - it's only the shagged ones you hear about. The one I had was on 100'000 and it was sweet. 8 million Trafics still going as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf892 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'd maybe spend a bit of time checking simple stuff before the bridge. Might be just a 20p coin stuck somewhere UltraWomble, The Moog and tooSavvy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 :D how far is sochaux from billancourt ill shout to them about poss linkage but depends on how much they might take off him to look pointed them at the omega on here and she said ooh might go look at that good for kids and the tat they haul round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 It does sound like a linkage failure though so probably worth getting someone to look at it first before weighing it in under the assumption it needs a new box. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH CORT16? cort16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overrun Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Place to swap it in Liverpool?Any weigh bridge should suffice. Hopefully he will get £100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Look on the bright side - at least it's only the box. The engine could be running on its own oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ref the oil level , if it's a pk6 then don't fill it to the level plug , the correct level is some way below that and over filling actually damages the box . The best way is to drain out and refill with the correct quantity . I always use the elf gl4+ oil and had no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I might try changing oil first, maybe something decent like Redline MTL to see if that helps. Or chuck a tube of Molyslip in and cross fingers and toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Top Gear transmissions could probably get it sorted for a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 No help at all but I thought it said Iguana instead of Laguna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Iguana would be more reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 We followed an 02 laguna through and out of Aylesbury on Friday, it beached shit out of the exhaust even on gentle acceleration. I guessed it had maybe 7 months to live? Amy then said "but yours does that too sometimes"..." but mines allowed to my dear, it's old. Plus it only does it past 4k revs, and I rarely go that high day to day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Top Gear transmissions could probably get it sorted for a price. Or, as the boss of DMA in Chester used to say: 'It's nothing money can't fix' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 vulg - iguana less hassle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH-R Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I thought of the absolute shoeing these got last time we had a Laguna thread on here when I saw a Y reg one the other day! I don't think I've seen one that early since about 2005. I still like these, even though they're an unmitigated disaster. A car too shite for Autoshite? Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
406V6 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Spending hundreds of pounds on a car that's not even worth £100 and ending up with a heap of *&%£$ that's still only worth bridge money - nonsensical. Buy one of the cars for sale on here and save £££ over the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I still think these are a looker especially the estates. I recon a 2.0 pez would make a decent banger although my mate had one and the boot hinges snapped and the mileage went up 100 for every mile he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 £80 ON SATURDAY CASH cort16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ref the oil level , if it's a pk6 then don't fill it to the level plug , the correct level is some way below that and over filling actually damages the box . The best way is to drain out and refill with the correct quantity . I always use the elf gl4+ oil and had no problems This is what kills these boxes. Renault do a special plastic dipstick with markings on either side, one side for Lagunas and the other for Trafics. The reason is that the box sits at a different angle. Most mong mechanics whip out the filler plug, tip a gallon of EP80 in there and it buggers them. A gearbox specialist I know says these boxes were quite tightly shimmed from new, and the way they are treated inn the first few thousand miles has a lot of bearing. (No pun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I still think these are a looker especially the estates. I recon a 2.0 pez would make a decent banger although my mate had one and the boot hinges snapped and the mileage went up 100 for every mile he did. Yeah, I've got the horn for one. Needs to be a pre facelift Sport Tourer (Estate) - the 2005 facelift was a fucking disgrace. A 1.8 petrol with at least two working keycards please. Still the most insanely comfy car I can recall driving. I really liked the 1.9DCi I had two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Spending hundreds of pounds on a car that's not even worth £100 and ending up with a heap of *&%£$ that's still only worth bridge money - nonsensical. Buy one of the cars for sale on here and save £££ over the next year.when they said what theyd been quoted and likely price of the car no wai it even worth that either - first thing i said was buy another itll be cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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