TripleRich Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 The injected Mk1 Granada was only available for about a year or so. The Granada was basically developed by the Germans during the big rivalry between the two divisions of Ford which eventually resulted in all design and production being controlled by the Cologne side. Mk1 Granada production in Britain didn't last long and stopped some time before the Mk2 came out. All LHD cars were equipped with engines not offered in the UK. LHD Mk1 RHD MK1 1.7 Taunus V4 2.0 Essex V42.0 Pinto I4 2.0 Pinto I4 2.0 Cologne V6 2.5 Essex V62.3 Cologne V6 3.0 Essex V62.6 Cologne V6 5.0 V8 - South African models only2.8 Cologne V62.8i Cologne V6 The 2.8i engine first appeared on the last year of Mk1s and was then offered from launch on the Mk2 in either S or GL trim. JeeExEll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormee Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 The injected Mk1 Granada was only available for about a year or so. The Granada was basically developed by the Germans during the big rivalry between the two divisions of Ford which eventually resulted in all design and production being controlled by the Cologne side. Mk1 Granada production in Britain didn't last long and stopped some time before the Mk2 came out. All LHD cars were equipped with engines not offered in the UK. LHD Mk1 RHD MK1 1.7 Taunus V4 2.0 Essex V42.0 Pinto I4 2.0 Pinto I4 2.0 Cologne V6 2.5 Essex V62.3 Cologne V6 3.0 Essex V62.6 Cologne V6 5.0 V8 - South African models only2.8 Cologne V62.8i Cologne V6 The 2.8i engine first appeared on the last year of Mk1s and was then offered from launch on the Mk2 in either S or GL trim.The 2,8i was launched in September 1976 and that was the first time the engine size was marked on the bootlid instead of the front wings (model-engine-trim level) which became standard by all 1978 (late 1977 models). The Granada was the only model featuring the 2,8i and only available in Ghia fashion. Later on this engine replaced both 3litre-engines as we all know. JeeExEll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedagain Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 No photo (I'm sure everyone knows what a LHD K11 Micra looks like), in the late 90's Nissan built some with Peugeot 1.5 TUD Diesels for European markets. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 How about this then? No, it isn't a Triumph 2000, 2500 or 2.5PI and everyone knows they exist. It's a Stag estate and the V5 says so. Built by Del Lines of Atlantic Garage, Weston super Mare for his own use, it's basically all the mechanical bits of a Stag in a 2.5PI estate shell. He ended up building 25 more to order before BL shut him down for copyright infringement, and one other estate and a saloon also survive. I'd never heard of such a thing before but now it's in my dream garage. Christine, Yoss, cros and 20 others 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormee Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Sondermodell - 'special model' (limited edition in English I'd say), so at a guess this is a desirable end of production model. Possibly a shortage of the old V6 at the end of production and a need to ramp up and test production of the new V6 (pure speculation on my part).The Traveller L was a runout-model coming with either 2,0 or 2,3 of the standard old V6. Slightly upgraded L where they must have used up the GL seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 That looks the mutts nuts, why aren’t hordes of 17 year olds buying these? The RS3 125cc (as pictured) = £3,999. The Lexmoto LXR125, which looks similar = £2199.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Yugo Sana in pickup flavour! Spotted in Serbia Datsuncog, Jerzy Woking, cros and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshome Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Zunder 1500, made in Argentina. Porsche boxer powered. Seems the Porsche involvement lead to this innovative Coupé styling. https://zunder1500.wordpress.com/ NorfolkNWeigh, jumpingjehovahs, catsinthewelder and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cros Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Vauxhall 'L' van created for the Swiss post apparently. Don't know why you'd bother to do this as the company already offered an off the shelf Bedford van. This creation had to be built on the Australian version as the UK cars did not have a separate chassis. Thus I assume the van was based on this Antipodes only model. Lacquer Peel, pshome and JeeExEll 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Mk1 Granada with the 2.8i engine. Totally new one to me. I didn't think the 2.8i arrived in the Granada till the TRX-wheeled Mk2s of late 1977, even in Germany. I can't translate German, was this a special / tuned version of the German-spec Mk1? Sondermodell - 'special model' (limited edition in English I'd say), so at a guess this is a desirable end of production model. Possibly a shortage of the old V6 at the end of production and a need to ramp up and test production of the new V6 (pure speculation on my part). ^ Thanks Bianconery, Mercrocker also came to that conclusion. In all my years of Ford geekery I'd never heard of it till yesterday. I thought the German Granadas used the 2.6 Cologne, and (possibly) a 2.8 carb for around 1976/7 but injection?? You could get German Capris with the Essex 3-litre but I don't know if 3.0 Granadas were available. Which leads onto the question - which Mk1 models could be bought with ths 2.8i? A 'S' model like the UK 3000S? A Ghia? A Ghia coupe?May be worth checking out if 1977 German Ford brochures are on the net.The Traveller special edition Granada L in that advert comes with a 2 litre V6, although the main text says the 2.8i was also available on other models. I didn’t know the 2.0 V6 Cologne engine was a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Zunder 1500, made in Argentina. Porsche boxer powered. Seems the Porsche involvement lead to this innovative Coupé styling. I imagine Karmann and Ghia might have had something to say about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardthestag Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 never knew this existed until yesterday! egg, John F, MiniMort and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardthestag Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 How about this then? No, it isn't a Triumph 2000, 2500 or 2.5PI and everyone knows they exist. It's a Stag estate and the V5 says so. Built by Del Lines of Atlantic Garage, Weston super Mare for his own use, it's basically all the mechanical bits of a Stag in a 2.5PI estate shell. He ended up building 25 more to order before BL shut him down for copyright infringement, and one other estate and a saloon also survive. I'd never heard of such a thing before but now it's in my dream garage. DEL33.jpg wasnt so much of a copyright issue as he was being supplied body shells and engines by BL. Not sure why but the deal ended and he could only buy fully fitted out cars, so it ended up as not very cost efficient for him to continue. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 never knew this existed until yesterday! ah yes the Crossroad leanycan and richardthestag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeeExEll Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 The Traveller special edition Granada L in that advert comes with a 2 litre V6, although the main text says the 2.8i was also available on other models. I didn’t know the 2.0 V6 Cologne engine was a thing.2.0V6 Cologne was used instead of the Pinto 2-litre in German Capris and Taunuseseses. Heavy and not very powerful basic pushrod V6 but short-stroke revvy and I'd imagine they would have been smooth. And sounded loads better than a Pinto even through a single tailpipe. I'd a 2.3LX 5-speed Granada Mk2 around 20 years ago which was smooth but quite thirsty. Had been converted to a Weber 38DGAS (a brand new one) before I bought it from it's previous owner who'd towed his caravan with it - the 3-litre Capri carb with both chokes opening mechanically on the throttle . When it needed a replacement clutch I had the chance of a really good totally standard 2.8 engine from a wrecked Capri Special so one weekend, with the assistance of 2 friends, swapped in the 2.8 and ran it on the Weber. From memory only the exhaust downpipes were different from the 2.3. It was surprisingly quick with the 3.64 diff and the 5-speed. Handled well with all new springs & dampers, and most of the bushes replaced. Also, being a fairly basic LX it wasn't weighed down with trim. Standard steelies (bonfired the plastic trimz), and 185/70 14s.B713PSH. Edit - whaahey, look what I found. Photo is dated 1995 on the back, crikey, 23 years ago. The e28 was a 1984 528i manual which had replaced an 82 X-reg Capri Injection. BMW was awaiting work, broken rocker-arm and various minor bits from what I remember. Specced from new with a lsd (Sorry, bit of temporary thread-boundary-blurrage but, hey, it's Autoshite). cros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 It's a Sherpa, but not as we know it... Quote from Wikipedia 'The Renault Sherpa should not be confused with the Leyland Sherpa'. Aston Martin, Lacquer Peel, cros and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeeExEll Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 ^ That's a mean-looking Renault.Sherpa from 'Quatermass'. Around 1980. cros and chodweaver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraMikeHotel Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Saw a billboard today advertising the Vauxhall Grandland. Grandland? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Saw a billboard today advertising the Vauxhall Grandland. Grandland? Really? What's the betting that slightly soiled ones will be known as 'Poundland'? Chris2cv and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Vauxhall Grandad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 That's the Badger !! Borgward Isabella, he took great pains to force the 'w' as a 'V'.. LOL.. were they any good ? Don't know if they were good, but they're good looking; Found one rotting on a farm near me over 25 years ago, might still be (a pile of dust) there. Aston Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Well this is a new one on me; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-4-R4-van-Sinpar-4x4-barn-find-project-classic-car/132808501997?hash=item1eec00eaed:g:FK0AAOSw40pbt5rq And https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1968-Lambretta-Willam-Van-Lawil-Micro-car/173576305368?hash=item2869f43ad8:g:06UAAOSw0rBbuhyH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 And https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1968-Lambretta-Willam-Van-Lawil-Micro-car/173576305368?hash=item2869f43ad8:g:06UAAOSw0rBbuhyH Dollywobler's had a go in one of those. 17:00 onward - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Currently in Senj in Croatia. Found this.A Deawoo Tico. pshome and jumpingjehovahs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I'd seen those coaches and assumed they were Chinese, too. King Long, on the other hand, is Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 How about this then? No, it isn't a Triumph 2000, 2500 or 2.5PI and everyone knows they exist. It's a Stag estate and the V5 says so. Built by Del Lines of Atlantic Garage, Weston super Mare for his own use, it's basically all the mechanical bits of a Stag in a 2.5PI estate shell. He ended up building 25 more to order before BL shut him down for copyright infringement, and one other estate and a saloon also survive. I'd never heard of such a thing before but now it's in my dream garage. DEL33.jpgBL at their marketing best again...MG...Trumph etc all squandered. Of course a hot estate is a car staple these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Though to be fair Triumph already had a hot estate in the 2.5PI. That engine had 150bhp in the first TR6's, five more than a Stag, and it was a far nicer engine than the V8. There isn't a better noise out there than a Triumph straight six being wound up. It would be much easier to put the 150bhp camshaft in your engine than go to all that effort. Amishtat and chaseracer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianconeri Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Though to be fair Triumph already had a hot estate in the 2.5PI. That engine had 150bhp in the first TR6's, five more than a Stag, and it was a far nicer engine than the V8. There isn't a better noise out there than a Triumph straight six being wound up. It would be much easier to put the 150bhp camshaft in your engine than go to all that effort. The 2000 and 2.5 PI Estates were produced in batches at Carbodies in Coventry, alongside the venerable Austin FX4, from saloon bodies. I had a fascinating visit there in 1977 and saw the Duke of Edinburgh's silver FL2 being built. cros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Jiangnan TT From what I can figure out it's effectively a rebadged Maruti 800/Suzuki Alto. I know next to diddly squat about Chinese cars. Aston Martin, Lacquer Peel, egg and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Skud Karoq seen this morning. Yet more proof we ran out of car names in 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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