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#61 OFFLINE   richardmorris

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 06:50 PM

Mr Panhard seems to have gone quiet, is he just enjoying the drive home or..........

He's probably still in shock after putting 100litres of superunleaded into it.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 06:54 PM

Well it made it and has been faultless. It is a bit like piloting a cruise liner and maybe isn't as sharp on the suspension as it should be. There is also a bit of an oil leak that may be LHM it needs to go on the ramp for a proper look at it. To say I am enjoying it is an understatement they really are class motors. You just want to cruise at 60 to 70 rather than stuffing your foot down. A proper luxury motor that is for sure. I filled it up in Nottingham and stopped again in Bristol so decided to top it up again there 130 miles on £40 wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It will go on the ramp this week for a proper inspection I won't look at that thread until after I have checked it out properly just in case it scares the crap out of me, but there again 2 grand it pretty much breaker money. The flying lady will make £200 on it's own. Grilles run out at £400 so worth it's money in bits.

Anyway here are a few more pictures I will get some better ones sorted when the weather is better. Sorry no petrol station shot I had left the camera in the Izusu. I am sure there will be many more opportunities.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 06:55 PM

^^^^^ That looks like such a nice place to sit and watch the world go by.

 

 

 

This is at 2200 with an hour to go. Looks pretty decent too.


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I've read that.iit looks like a nightmare all double and triple skinned. He's doing a really good job of it though.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:02 PM

Stunning! That interior is fantastic, very clean.
I hope all is good once you get it up on the ramp, it would be a real shame if it was rusty and had to be broken. It looks good bodywork wise in the pics though.
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:21 PM

Shove an Irish plate on it and watch the neighbours curtains twitch


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:27 PM

One does NOT keep containers of oil in the boot of one's Royce. It lowers the tone. If one must carry spare fluids they must be hidden behind trim or kept in a picnic basket.

Jealousy is rampant.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:33 PM

Lovely stuff. Get some old font plates on it and it'll look even better but you've been fortunate in finding one in a non-gopping colour scheme, regardless. My favourite bit of those early ones is the stainless wheel trims and completely outdated steering wheel. I'm guessing they updated them to a padded effort after a while? 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:38 PM

One does NOT keep containers of oil in the boot of one's Royce. It lowers the tone. If one must carry spare fluids they must be hidden behind trim or kept in a picnic basket.
Jealousy is rampant.


It needs the auto shitters tool kit in the boot.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:43 PM

That interior looks mint . You really can't lose at that money.

I estimate this car needs £3000 maybe £4000 spending on it to get it rite and when this is done it will be wotrth about £1500!!


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:59 PM

It looks so good, I hope it' turns out to be a good un

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:02 PM

My one and only ride in one of these was when I was around 15 or 16, as my mate's Dad ran a business as a wedding driver. At that time we often used to camp in the local woods on a Saturday night to have a few drinks around a camp fire, and one morning we were absolutely soaking wet*, majorly hungover, and really couldn't face the walk back so he got his Dad to pick us up in the RR (which was a complete surprise!) Talk about the sort of people you'd least expect to be getting out of one! I remember it being incredibly smooth and quiet, although I didn't check the wheel arches for wob...

 

*The reason for this was that a torch found its way onto the fire, and batteries in a metal case made a reasonably effective pipe bomb, and blasted out the remains of a battery with burning embers all over the tent, rendering it less than watertight.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:37 PM

This Royce is a WINNA!



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:24 PM

Brilliant, looks like a hell of a lot of car for the money. Top purchase.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:30 PM

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:59 PM

Awesome! Nearly as posh as an Allegro Vanden Plas.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 10:01 PM

I should stop reading this thread, it's making me far too jealous.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:15 AM

What I'd really want to know is just how complex or otherwise are these old buses to work on? I mean if you buy one and take it to your local spannerman will he be able to do much to it, and will he be able to get spares for it? Do motor factors sell RR bits?

 


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:28 AM

I've driven a Silver Wraith and it didn't ride as well as I expected it to. A workman at a set of temporary lights took the piss and gave me a mock salute, too.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:37 AM

What a lovely car.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 08:11 AM

That's awesome, for the money it's a steal.

 

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 02:06 PM

That blue forum thread is an eye opener  for sure. I had no idea a RR was mostly filler!


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 09:15 PM

Well it has been on the lift this afternoon. Sorry no pics as it was getting dark. Nothing too shocking underneath all looks pretty good but does have a little rust around the top edge of one of the rear spring cups. I will have a chat with my mot tester and see if he is ok with me cleaning it up and welding a plate on there. There are a few fluid leaks as you can imagine. The gearbox is damp all over so maybe an oil and filter change with new gaskets might help it. Steering rack gaiters are both split £80 for 2 gaiters !!!!! It also has a leak on a rear height sensor another 100 quid. Overall nothing too scary but it is a bit too bouncy on the front which worries me a bit. Shock absorbers are not cheap. I think I can risk a look at that thread on the rusty one now as I am pretty sure that this one is solid and made of metal rather than filler and expanding foam. The electrics are interesting. It uses special fuses available only from specialists at a quid each I blew 3 of the buggers trying to sort the interior lights. For some reason the previous owner had pulled the fuse for front sidelights instead of the interior lights.  I have now pulled the interior light fuse so fingers crossed I can leave the battery connected and it will start in the morning. Fixing the interior lights properly is going to be a pain as the sensors are on the door locks rather than a little push button on the door pillar. Fuel gauge is almost certainly the tank unit another £80 there. So it looks like a few hundred quid might get it into reasonable condition. I even worked out the fuel consumption at just under 18 to the gallon which isn't too bad my hearse is only just getting 20


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 09:35 PM

I'm bitter with jealousy.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 10:00 PM

18mpg is better than my LR90 V8 managed - with about half the engine size. 

 

Regarding ride and handling, in my experience, these early Spirits are a fair bit wallowy. Best by a long chalk are the later Bentleys in this shape. They feel like the entire world of physics is being torn up. Some of them came looking hideously barried up from the factory though - all bodykit and mesh grilles. I think I'd like to dress up one of those Bentleys as an early Spirit, complete with the fab wheel trims.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 10:23 PM

Looks like a decent purchase, like dollywobbler says the early ones can be rather bouncy! A Turbo R front anti roll bar bolts straight on and is rather thicker than the Sprit one, so improves handling no end. I've fitted a few to Shadows/T types too. (not that it helps with the bouncyness!)

Bleeding the height control system can be fun and defiantly a 2 man operation! At least these use LHM and not horrible paint eating Dot 4!

Rear spring cups seem a common problem, after a bit of poking they usually end up looking like this!:

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Posted 04 November 2014 - 10:29 AM

The rear cup on mine isn't quite that bad just a little frilly at the very top so might be ok otherwise I will have to strip it all down and get a new one welded on. I think after reading loads of info about these that I have front sphere trouble which is causing my bouncyness. The lights go out but if you switch it off and then turn the ignition back on it only takes 5 pumps for no1 light to come on. So at 50 quid a pop I think I will change those as well. This is soon going to become a 3 grand roller but it should be pretty sorted in the end.


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 11:08 AM

That sounds like two different issues Panhard - there will be suspension spheres, which could well cause the bumpiness, but there will be separate accumulator spheres (or just one) to maintain brake pressure - that's what you're testing when you turn the engine off. Should be easy enough to replace - some places can regas them. 


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 11:29 AM

That sounds like two different issues Panhard - there will be suspension spheres, which could well cause the bumpiness, but there will be separate accumulator spheres (or just one) to maintain brake pressure - that's what you're testing when you turn the engine off. Should be easy enough to replace - some places can regas them. 

Yeah just spoke to a specialist who can do 2 new ones for £60. I was thinking that it was like the old citroens with all 4 wheels controled by hydrulics but it is just the brakes and the rear end. Looks like I may need front shocks then. At least the company I have found are very sensible on prices,


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 11:32 AM

Ah yes. You've reminded me - only the early Silver Shadows had hydro all-round. 


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 12:17 PM

My old shadow had it but that was a '68. I remember seeing a service bulletin in the paperwork saying that it could be removed and blanked off. I would of thought that they would of gone back to it with the later cars but obviously not. I am right in thinking that some citroens get bouncy if the center sphere goes or did I dream that up?. It has been a few years now since I last worked on one.


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