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#451 OFFLINE   tooSavvy

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Posted Yesterday, 02:52 PM

Britain is probably not the best country for you to be residing in then! Glad to hear your MOT fail was minor and easily sortable.


.... poor old ToMM© lives on the street >> sure it must have been a 'cossetted garage queen' in a previous life [no UK Toyyo makes 26yr on a diet of saltsoup :( ]

Ah well...


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#452 OFFLINE   danthecapriman

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Posted Yesterday, 03:04 PM

When you disconnected the vacuum actuators, I guess you remembered to plug the holes/pipes?


Yes, I pulled the hoses and taped up the ends to stop shit getting in. Everything is now back on and connected as it should be. No change in running at all.


This is what it's left behind.
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The only way to make it run is to put your foot flat to the floor on the gas and just keep cranking it over. Eventually it catches but it runs awfully.
Once it's running it idles ok-ish. If it's revved it struggles and runs rough until it either clears or dies.
If it's running it'll keep idling for about 30 seconds but consistently then gets progressively worse until it just cuts out.
It's smoking like a mother fucker too when started, and then when it's running rough just before it cuts out.

Nothing I can do is having any effect either. I've pulled all plugs out and cleaned them (all thick black sooty) I've also tried weakening the mix a fair bit too but it's made fuck all difference.



Is your thermo switch connected and working properly?
These have to be able to switch to preheated air when not entirely hot.


Connected and seems to work.


I'm getting fucking sick of this shit now. I've had this shit pile of a car four years now and still after spending a fortune in parts, repairs and time it's still fucked. It's never managed to run consistently for a single year so far despite everything having been replaced or repaired.
It's like a sick fucking joke tbh. Talk about being repeatedly fucked up the ass when your already down.
It might be just because I'm already fucking seething mad but I just can't be arsed with all this shit anymore. I'm tempted to just get rid of the cunt tbh, straight to the oval with it.
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Posted Yesterday, 03:15 PM

You should have bought a Ford...

 

I would have much more rofled had it failed on red indicators.

In fact, I'd probably have died of laughter, so I'm glad it's more serious.

 

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Posted Yesterday, 03:17 PM

Oh, and your float or needle and seat valve is stuck.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:18 PM

Oh, and your float or needle and seat valve is stuck.


How though? The shit heap was fine before!
Should I take the carb top cover off and have a look?
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Posted Yesterday, 03:19 PM

Yes, I pulled the hoses and taped up the ends to stop shit getting in. Everything is now back on and connected as it should be. No change in running at all.


This is what it's left behind.

The only way to make it run is to put your foot flat to the floor on the gas and just keep cranking it over. Eventually it catches but it runs awfully.
Once it's running it idles ok-ish. If it's revved it struggles and runs rough until it either clears or dies.
If it's running it'll keep idling for about 30 seconds but consistently then gets progressively worse until it just cuts out.
It's smoking like a mother fucker too when started, and then when it's running rough just before it cuts out.

Nothing I can do is having any effect either. I've pulled all plugs out and cleaned them (all thick black sooty) I've also tried weakening the mix a fair bit too but it's made fuck all difference.


I'm getting fucking sick of this shit now. I've had this shit pile of a car four years now and still after spending a fortune in parts, repairs and time it's still fucked. It's never managed to run consistently for a single year so far despite everything having been replaced or repaired.
It's like a sick fucking joke tbh. Talk about being repeatedly fucked up the ass when your already down.
It might be just because I'm already fucking seething mad but I just can't be arsed with all this shit anymore. I'm tempted to just get rid of the cunt tbh, straight to the oval with it.

 

As previously mentioned - my AMC has been behaving in a very similarly annoying way.  I sympathise - you have laid out a lot more than I have on trying to fix yours.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:20 PM

How though? The shit heap was fine before!
Should I take the carb top cover off and have a look?

 

Yes.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:21 PM

How though? The shit heap was fine before!
Should I take the carb top cover off and have a look?

 

Give the carb a couple of whacks which an extension bar.

 

Thats all they ever do on Roadkill.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:28 PM

Yes.


I've just been reading up on carb flooding, I've never had it happen before...

From the sound of things your right JM! Thinking back, the last few times I drove it I could smell petrol when driving, it cleared though so I thought no more of it and just assumed it was from filling up. This is a symptom according to some American guy on the web. His starting of a flooded car is identical to mine too.

Annoying really as the carb isn't that old.
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Posted Yesterday, 03:42 PM


Annoying really as the carb isn't that old.

It needs to be driven more often, they don't like being stood for too long. I'm taking it you've still got the manual fuel pump and not a leccy replacement ?


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Posted Yesterday, 03:56 PM

Just read through this thread from start (with photofuckit irritation) to today.  Utterly epic.

 

And yes.  The latest fun and games* sounds very much like a stuck float or a bit of something stopping the needle valve from closing on the Carb float inlet.  Had very similar issues with various carbs over the years, particularly if not used regularly, as they then suffer from Varnish making everything sticky and not working properly.


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Posted Yesterday, 04:09 PM

It needs to be driven more often, they don't like being stood for too long. I'm taking it you've still got the manual fuel pump and not a leccy replacement ?


Yeah still original mechanical pump (also new!).

Just read through this thread from start (with photofuckit irritation) to today.  Utterly epic.
 
And yes.  The latest fun and games* sounds very much like a stuck float or a bit of something stopping the needle valve from closing on the Carb float inlet.  Had very similar issues with various carbs over the years, particularly if not used regularly, as they then suffer from Varnish making everything sticky and not working properly.


Ta! It's been a hell of an undertaking that's for sure!


It's done less than 1000 miles this year. I know it needs using more, it's just having chance at the moment. This last year and a bit the full focus has been on getting the utter nightmare that is the Capri resto sorted. Everything else has gone out the window because of that.

Still, this's got an MOT now so all I've got to do is sort the carb out.
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Posted Yesterday, 05:57 PM

I've just been reading up on carb flooding, I've never had it happen before...

From the sound of things your right JM! Thinking back, the last few times I drove it I could smell petrol when driving, it cleared though so I thought no more of it and just assumed it was from filling up. This is a symptom according to some American guy on the web. His starting of a flooded car is identical to mine too.

Annoying really as the carb isn't that old.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:02 PM

Fuck the stupid thing anyway. It's got a ticket and it's on my drive safe so I'll leave it be for a few days, else I'll just lose my temper with it. Shouldn't be too difficult to sort anyway.
If I leave it a few days it'll probably start straight up as the fuel will have drained off/evaporated. Until of course the float/needle sticks again.

Good job I've got a Volvo though isn't it!
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Posted Yesterday, 06:25 PM

Sounds very much like there's a bit of grit in seat for the float needle or something. This doesn't need to be anything like old, just a matter of something washing its way along the fuel system. Favourite would be a bit of rubber "swarf" from a trimmed fuel hose.

Float height (which can be thrown off by the above) is critical on carbs of this type and will cause all sorts of nonsense if it's even slightly off.

Sounds very much like you need to take a few steps back for a while though and let your head clear a bit.

Have found myself in the same boat with the overheating issue on my Skoda. Very nearly wanted to push the thing off the nearest cliff when it overheated last time. My response was to park it up and ignore it for a couple of months.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:27 PM

*RollEyes*


Sorry, I forgot that this was exactly what you'd said on the last page!
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Posted Yesterday, 06:40 PM

Sounds very much like there's a bit of grit in seat for the float needle or something. This doesn't need to be anything like old, just a matter of something washing its way along the fuel system. Favourite would be a bit of rubber "swarf" from a trimmed fuel hose.
Float height (which can be thrown off by the above) is critical on carbs of this type and will cause all sorts of nonsense if it's even slightly off.
Sounds very much like you need to take a few steps back for a while though and let your head clear a bit.
Have found myself in the same boat with the overheating issue on my Skoda. Very nearly wanted to push the thing off the nearest cliff when it overheated last time. My response was to park it up and ignore it for a couple of months.


It is really getting on my last nerve now. After everything I've done to it you'd think nothing else can cause trouble yet here we are. AGAIN! All I want to do is drive the dam thing.

It's lethal though when it's like this as you can't control the car once the engines not running. Twice today when it cut out I lost steering - no power assist without engine means turning the wheel is incredibly hard to do.
And the brakes barely work without the servo working. If it does it at the wrong moment your fucked, you'll either rear end someone or stuff it into a roundabout or something.
I did gain a lot of confidence in the car after the work finished but now it's done this again not so much.

I'm going to leave it alone for a bit I think. I'll end up smashing it if not! I really wanted to get the MOT sorted then have at least a couple of months of use out of it before the bloody winter and road salt come in. Oh well.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:58 PM

Is there a local mobile mechanic you would trust to have a look at it, it will just be dirt somewherr

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Posted Yesterday, 07:05 PM

Is there a local mobile mechanic you would trust to have a look at it, it will just be dirt somewherr


The place that did the engine rebuild are 5 mins down the road. Getting it to them wouldn't be too hard, especially if I go early to avoid traffic.
They seemed to do a good job on this car and they know classic cars inside out. But after the trouble on the Capri I'm not sure I should? Maybe the bodywork on that was just a bit much for them. I don't know.

I could do it myself then get the carb set up again on a gas analyser. I just don't have the time or inclination to at the moment. I Dunno.
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Posted Yesterday, 07:18 PM

Surely must be some videos on YouTube especially as it would be a type of video popular in the states.
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Posted Yesterday, 07:27 PM

Surely must be some videos on YouTube especially as it would be a type of video popular in the states.


Refurbishing or cleaning the carb out is something I can do. I've done my Capri carb a few times now and others it's just the time and tbh I can not be arsed with anymore on this car, I just want it fixed and working.
I've got stuff to do for the Capri resto and some jobs I want to do on the Volvo. This is just a massive irritation really as it means spending time and money here where I shouldn't have to.
At least if I pay someone to do it I can throw them the keys and leave them to sort it out while I do other things.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:21 PM

After everything I've done to it you'd think nothing else can cause trouble yet here we are. AGAIN!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Come on Dan, the reason this forum exists at all is because all old cars will do exactly that!  All of them, and they will do it!  If anyone knows that, I do.  Take a break for a few days, give one of the others some attention, and come back to this when you feel calmer.  It'll be right.  It's nothing you can't handle; it just happened at the wrong time, that's all.  And that's something else they all do....


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Posted Yesterday, 08:41 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Come on Dan, the reason this forum exists at all is because all old cars will do exactly that! All of them, and they will do it! If anyone knows that, I do. Take a break for a few days, give one of the others some attention, and come back to this when you feel calmer. It'll be right. It's nothing you can't handle; it just happened at the wrong time, that's all. And that's something else they all do....

Yeah I know.
This one is a special kind a bastard though I'll give it that! Never before have I known a car that's been such a pain in the arse as this one.
The Capri has been utterly faultless since day 1, it was just the rust that started to get the better of it. Other than that I can't remember it ever causing trouble. Even the others I've had over the years haven't come close to this car!
It's a shame cos when it's going it's bloody brilliant to drive and own it just seems to have a real problem with actually running for any length of time.
Thinking back, the last fuck up was the fuel tank, that was September last year. Maybe this car hates the cold and winter as much as I do?!

I'll sort it though don't worry! I get mad and say shit I don't mean but I've got no intention whatsoever of giving up on it.

It needs sorting too as I've got a wedding to do with it in May.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:45 PM

Could be worse, you could own a similar aged car to this with dodgy brakes, fuel tank that spills fuel when going up hill, can't manage a journey further than 10 miles without cutting out and a shock absorber that goes boing-de-boing. That also lives outside, so by the time it's fixed, it'll probably be rotten.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:47 PM

A 'quick n dirty' fix, IF it is is dirt on the float valve seat preventing it from shutting off is to cut off the fuel supply temporarily. The engine will then use up what's in the float bowl, then as it dies from lack of fuel, allow fuel through again which will rush in and hopefully wash away whatever was stopping the valve from fully closing. Just a bodge until you can check the carb properly, but it's helped me in the past.


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