DodgeRover Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Filter it first and check it actually supports combustion... Cleon-Fonte, forddeliveryboy and Heidel_Kakao 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidel_Kakao Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Filter it first and check it actually supports combustion...I was going to filter it through some fine gauze. How do I check it supports combustion though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'coli Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Pop a bit in a tin can or similar, use some sort of wick like a kitchen towel or dry snotrag, try to light the wick. Heidel_Kakao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Filter it through several J clothes arranged in a filter funnel, you don't really want to be putting bits of worn transmission bands through your injection system.. Heidel_Kakao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidel_Kakao Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Filter it through several J clothes arranged in a filter funnel, you don't really want to be putting bits of worn transmission bands through your injection system.. Something like these? I have plenty of fresh cloths like that so if that will provide sufficient filtration that's good. I practiced changing my fuel filter at the weekend and it was really easy. Very accessible as the filter housing is mounted on the battery tray. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 That should do it, in an ideal world order a 5 & 1 micron filter socks from ebay Heidel_Kakao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The 2.5 TD always used a Bosch pump in the XM, the 2.1 started with Bosch and changed to a Lucas EPIC.ATF is fine as a fuel. Â If you want to filter more than the ATF down the line I recommend a "sock" type filterhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172875547332 Heidel_Kakao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidel_Kakao Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The 2.5 TD always used a Bosch pump in the XM, the 2.1 started with Bosch and changed to a Lucas EPIC.ATF is fine as a fuel. If you want to filter more than the ATF down the line I recommend a "sock" type filterhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172875547332 Cool, the same seller has a 10, 5, and 1 Micron set for £11 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-FILTER-SOCK-10-5-1-BIO-DIESEL-VEG-OIL-W-V-O-SVO-COOKING-OIL-BIODIESEL/182778566623 I can see myself getting sucked into this running on veg malarkey. When I drove to Holland in July in the Subara I burnt £150 in petrol, I have already started trying to work out how cheap I could do the same journey running on veg in the XM. Birmingham to Scotland in November should be my first proper test of a long veg fueled journey. It turns out my mother has a Costco card so I am going down there on Friday to see how cheap their veg oil is. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Bear in mind you don't have to filter new oil but it's good to have options if you find cheap or free WVO. Heidel_Kakao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidel_Kakao Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Bear in mind you don't have to filter new oil but it's good to have options if you find cheap or free WVO.I would like to filter the used ATF properly before I use it as I drained it into a dirty bowl when I was changing it as at the time I had no idea I would be later using it as fuel  I guess most chip shops have a disposal arrangement in place already? Or someone will have already claimed their waste oil? There is a chippy 30 seconds walk from my house so I may ask them what they do with their old oil next time I am in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Veg/dino mix OK in a Lucas-pumped 205?  Asking for a friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Veg/dino mix OK in a Lucas-pumped 205?  Asking for a friend... I think some people with Lucas pumps run them on a 50/50 mix, but they aren't as up to it as a Bosch pump. I did the same in my old 306 before converting it to Bosch. Basically, run it on 50/50, but if it goes tits up, shove a Bosch in instead. chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'coli Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I've done 20,000 miles 50/50 in a Lucas-pumped XUD. Lacquer Peel, chaseracer, Supernaut and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I would like to filter the used ATF properly before I use it as I drained it into a dirty bowl when I was changing it as at the time I had no idea I would be later using it as fuel  I guess most chip shops have a disposal arrangement in place already? Or someone will have already claimed their waste oil? There is a chippy 30 seconds walk from my house so I may ask them what they do with their old oil next time I am in there.Yes most places have commercial collectors and are reluctant to change. It's worth pouncing on places if they change owners or are new businesses.Set up an alert on Gumtree, some people have a surplus they want to get rid of or have stopped making biodiesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Go round your local builders cafés - none of the ones I used to eat in had a collection set up and would happily give you all their waste oil if you dropped in for a bacon butty. I used to get between 50 and 100l a week Heidel_Kakao, Talbot and Lacquer Peel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon-Fonte Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I've done 20,000 miles 50/50 in a Lucas-pumped XUD. Same. chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daviemck2006 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I've just bought a 210000 mile 1.9 xud xantia with bosh pump and work in a chippy. What do I need to do to the waste veggie to make it work? I'm totally new to this veggie malarkie  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 I've just bought a 210000 mile 1.9 xud xantia with bosh pump and work in a chippy. What do I need to do to the waste veggie to make it work? I'm totally new to this veggie malarkie  Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFilter this fooK out of it basically and off you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daviemck2006 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 What % of veg? Is it better with some diesel in it?  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 My XM would run on 100% filtered clean waste veg, even in winter but many others like to add 10% diesel up to 50%ish in winter. It varies from car to car. Heidel_Kakao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Filter this fooK out of it basically and off you go.Settle and filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 My XM would run on 100% filtered clean waste veg, even in winter but many others like to add 10% diesel up to 50%ish in winter. It varies from car to car.My Inca SDI is running on 100% WVO just now, but running 100% oil is a curse if you live somewhere that's cold in the winter, or if we have a bad winter countrywide.If the fuel delivery side is marginal, eg the pipes and filter housing that can cause issues too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Yeah, i was chasing air leaks for a while but once I got that sorted I was good to go. The air leaks weren't noticeable on pump diesel or bio. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Veg/dino mix OK in a Lucas-pumped 205?  Asking for a friend...  This morning, I dropped four litres of Tesco's finest veg oil into just over half a tank of squashed dinosaurs. So far, so good. Heidel_Kakao and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 My Lucas pumped Polo 1.9D tolerated 80% veg, 20% diesel chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Useful to know. Â I'm starting gently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddeliveryboy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Chances are there'll be pump failure on 80/20 veg if it's the most common variety (GM soya) and there are no mods made to the fuel system. As a minimum for high veg% + Lucas I'd suggest a fphe to thin the fuel, even at 50/50. Â I've done it and got away with it even sub-zero, but it was rapeseed oil and with a fphe. The savings are marginal when running new oil even at 95% unless you're doing high miles/poor mpg. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddeliveryboy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I've just bought a 210000 mile 1.9 xud xantia with bosh pump and work in a chippy. What do I need to do to the waste veggie to make it work? I'm totally new to this veggie malarkieSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It must be dry as well as polished clean, google 'hot pan test wvo'. Dirty oil will clog the lines/pump/filters, damp oil will cause terminal ftp at some indeterminate point in the future, directly related to how much you need the car at that moment. Â See http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/mybbforum/ - there's little they don't know. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Spares & Tyres Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Bosch pumped XUDs run on cooking oil, LHM, gearbox oil( manual and auto) oil from oil cooled welders, paint mixed with petrol, goose fat, paraffin An old petrol Fiesta that I was going to scrap but had a bit of tax and test on it got tried on thinners. It ran but pinked badly. 50/50 wasn't too bad. I got rid of lots of waste thinners with that old thing Lacquer Peel and chaseracer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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