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17 Years of Tin Snail - Ongoing tales.


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#571 ONLINE   dollywobbler

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 08:49 PM

The circle of life continued earlier, in farcical circumstances, as the Honda refused to come out of the garage until I'd jump started it with the 2CV. I need a new jump pack. I now have two that no longer work.


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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:33 PM

Today, I drove to Moreton-in-Marsh and met other 2CVers.

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Even more arrived.

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So we formed up.

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Then we convoyed to Leamington Spa, found even more 2CVs and annoyed some Volvos.

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77 cars in all, lots of sunshine, lots of fun, lots of cold.

 

Then I went back to the early 1990s in Welshpool.

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From the other angle, some time later.

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Home

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That's about 800 miles covered since the MOT, most on them on two consecutive Sundays. I reckon 250-260 today. 


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Posted 26 February 2018 - 09:56 AM

Greetings from Australia!

 

Wink, Wink...  :mrgreen: 


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 03:31 PM

As seen elsewhere, I dug Elly out of the garage again for a wash.

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She'd been sitting in the garage for about a week. I left the battery disconnected. Rolled her out, connected it up and she started on the first rotation of the starter motor! That's in stark contrast to recent behaviour. So, I think I must have a drain going on. Sadly, I can't get my multimeter to show me what's going on, which is annoying. I'm guessing it's something I've added. 


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:48 PM

Not many cars you can park up next to a 2CV which make the 2CV look positively huge!


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 08:29 PM

Not many cars you can park up next to a 2CV which make the 2CV look positively huge!

 

Oh I don't know. I once took her to a Microcar rally. Technically, she qualifies in terms of engine size. 


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 08:37 PM

As stated on facebook, calendar shot there Ian


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:08 PM

Nipped into town for errands, including meeting National Windscreens who repaired a rather nasty chip in the windscreen. On the way home, I stopped at the railway, because why wouldn't you? Then the li-ion battery I fitted just died completely. It began to stink and get really hot. I disconnected it and ran home for spares, returning in the Nippa and hoping I wouldn't return to an inferno. I didn't.

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Got the battery out, fitted one I got from Cobblers which doesn't actually fit, so held it in with a bungee chord. All sorted. Got back home. Battery now sitting somewhere safe while I wait for it to cool down.

 

I don't think I can recommend anyone replace their lead acid battery with a lithium-ion one. They're stroppy, you can't charge them with a mains charger, and apparently they don't last long either. Glad it wasn't my £400...


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:33 PM

I think you may have got it in time Ian, lots of heat in a lithium cell isn't good at all, something inside has clearly gone short circuit, not fit for purpose by the sounds. £400 takes the piss somewhat too


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:41 PM

Yeah, Li-ion is great for phones and toys but they're just too volatile.
Can't imagine the mess if you were in an accident and a bit of metal punctured the cells. Lead acid just leaks, Li-ion gets very spectacular very quickly. I was once in a crash at only 20-25mph where the car who hit us smashed the battery to bits.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:14 PM

not me

 


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:23 PM

Yeah, I'm glad that didn't happen! Battery did finally cool down, but I'm not bringing it into the house. 2CV is back on a good old lead acid battery, held in with cable ties until I can remember what I did with the original clamp...


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:29 PM

shorting an icke one out!

 

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this is progress donchno :(


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:04 PM

Lithium ion batteries seem very sensitive to correct charging and voltage protection. Perhaps the 2cvs old style voltage regulator was providing too variable a charge? A poor earth or connection and you can probably spike it over 15volts.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:32 PM

Big Clive had a lithium cell go foom on his workbench after he investigated why it had failed, not good really. No doubt the manufacturer will blame Elly
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:39 PM

I certainly wouldn't be happy using lithium batteries on a car a ordinary charging system. There's just not fine enough regulation of voltage or current for it to survive. Unless they've put some fancy electronics inside to cater for this but then it really does become a solution looking for a problem that doesn't really exist. Definitely not a £400 problem anyway.



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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:53 PM

Even tiny devices need charge protection circuitry, which proves to me really that they aren't much cop, especially as even with said circuitry, they can still fail in a dramatic way. I've a nadty feeling this is what happened in a recent Tesla accident, a rapid flash fire when a cell or cells under the front seat ruptured. The burn pattern in photos looks that way, the fumes alone would be enough to kill. Food for thought re the electric car
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 07:06 PM

Lithium ion batteries seem very sensitive to correct charging and voltage protection. Perhaps the 2cvs old style voltage regulator was providing too variable a charge? A poor earth or connection and you can probably spike it over 15volts.

 

Elly's on a new-fangled solid state regulator, but as you say, earth problems can still cause spikes. That's what killed a lead acid battery on Elly a good few years back. Was a sod to find the fault! I've not seen the voltage go above 14.5v even with high revs, but accept I can't easily measure it on the move. Well, I could if I fitted the voltmeter that's been sitting in the garage for a while...


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 08:12 PM

Charging lithium ion batteries is difficult.
Ideally every single (3.6ish volt) cell should be charged independantly, monitoring voltage across and current into the cell together with it's temperature.

Discharge current also has to be kept within limits, limits which change with charge state and temperature.

In rechargeable cars the cells are grouped and these modules are separately monitored to reduce the quantity of expensive electronics. The complexity of the charging electronics is a big part of the battery cost in EVs, and in laptop batteries and the like.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 08:19 PM

Yes, I think that's my conclusion. Yes, it's impressive that you can replace a hefty lead-acid battery with one that weighs just 1.7kg, but sometimes the old ways are the best ways. 

 

Mind you, I'm pretty sure steam buffs were horrified when someone suggested it was better to drive around with tanks full of hideously flammable petrol instead. 


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 08:52 PM

as oppposed to an steam train with a tank of oil AND a naked flame fire to wibble twixt wobbler and abewristwatch


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 07:54 PM

Today, I used the 2CV for a 160-mile work trip. Well, why wouldn't I? It's arguably the most reliable car on the fleet now it actually starts properly.

 

Lunch saw a meet up with another aircooled vehicle that is far younger than its design. (A 2014 Royal Enfield).

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Sadly, on the final run home, things got VERY wet. So wet the wipers jammed up several times.

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This happens because the spindles wear, allowing the arms to move too far, which eventually locks up the linkage. So, I need to rebuild the mechanism with new spindles. Which will result in wipers with far less travel. Which means I may have to abandon my sexy LHD-spec cranked wiper arms for straight ones. #FirstWorldProblems

 

Now my 2CV looks odd.

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Interestingly*, that's actually where they are meant to park, according to Citroen. But, most people prefer being able to see, so Elly has always had left-hand parking. I fitted the cranked LHD wiper arms in 2003, just because I like the look and found a pair. Citroen fitted straight arms to RHD 2CVs. The LHD arms don't clear the windscreen as well for RHD, unless your spindles are horribly worn (which they usually are), in which case it's fine. The worn spindles also allow water to lubricate your feet as you drive.


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 11:10 PM

Now that is wonky wiper parking, mine are more parallel but still not perfect! 

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:01 AM

Yours are also correct UK parking. Currently, I have no parking at all...

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Wiper motor out. Had a dig around in the garage for spare. Found a bare linkage with barely any play at all! Result! I've swapped the motor over, greased everything up and applied some paint to the carrier that holds it all. After a brew, I'll refit and hopefully that's job jobbed.

 

If you'd rather the wipers parked the other side Chris, it's an easy job. Motor out, undo the motor from the linkage, flip the little arm on the linkage that attaches to the motor through 180 degrees, refit. Requires no more than a pozi screwdriver, 8mm and 10mm spanners, a deep 21" socket (or grips will do) and a 10mm socket. Also a good opportunity to regrease the spindles and linkage.


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 11:35 AM

Sorted.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:38 PM

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:46 PM

One of your washer jets is watering the roof!
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 04:14 PM

They've been tweaked. Now they're both useless.

 

In other news, the handbrake has gone to utter shit, despite me adjusting it all of about two months ago. Adjuster bolts didn't seem the tightest, so I've done it again, with more welly. Let's see if it lasts.

 

I've also changed the gearbox oil, as that's not been done for a few years. I remember why. It's a sodding fiasco. I never fail to get horrible, stinking gearbox oil all over the place. Some of it has ended up in the gearbox at least.


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